Mini 1768: Detective Conan Mafia (Game Over: Town Wins)

[Firebringer]

What is yarrgami doing in everything.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Frozen Angel

She can't be town in every game I play with her, so by the laws of physics, and Gamblers fallacy.
This is the right lynch.

[Firebringer]

Fire bringer I'm town this game want to be mason buddies again?

What if you are telling me only what I want to hear?!?!?!?!?!

[Firebringer]

I'm going to backstab you one day but today isn't that day.

Call me crazy, but I believe you.

[Firebringer]

Fire-bringin' pirate probably be non-scurvy as well

I am always scurvy!
If that is good, if not, then not.

I have good feeling on Garmr, anyone voting him is scummy!!!

[Firebringer]

firebirdo is phoenix? i just know i'm gonna get that mixed up with firebringer, haha.

yeah, Kain is pretty textbook new. his yelling is.. really making me laugh considering that avatar! i'm kind of wondering if this is intentional...
Kain, Phoenix didn't know Turtles was a hydra (2 people in one account) until after he told them.. so obviously Phoenix was not scumreading them for that.

hey Tails! how's my loathsome copy? no i totally didn't steal my lines from metal sonic, why would you think that? do you think that garmr is fake overreacting, or do you think that scum are more likely to overreact?

preview: i'm also townreading garmr, firebringer, but i can why people would think otherwise. why is voting him scummy? you calling lynchbait? c:
i think scurvy means scummy..?

Garmr is going for aggression and the scum are piling on me thinks.
Scurvy I have no idea.

I don't know about the firebird name, I got that as a nickanem long ago from a mini theme I first played, I don't know if anyone actually remembers that.

[Firebringer]

oh I just think a phoenix is a FireBird
Firebringer is FireDragoon

I am a toothless

[Firebringer]

I thought you were a nightfury

Thats just my species, I have a name you jerk.

[Firebringer]

and thats the first policy lynch suggested on me!

yay!

This has given me mixed feelings btw Frozen. On one hand, I don't think you would do this as scum.
On the other....................................I don't think statistically you could be town.

Man, I am horrible by relying on statistics.

[Firebringer]

wait, i thought you were kidding about FA being scum because you've only seen her as town...
statistically, her consistently being town for you has nothing to do with her alignment now! you said it yourself that it was gambler's fallacy, so i thought maybe you were kidding.. please say you are.

I wanted to get her reaction, and it got me thinking she is town.
But I think I give out too many town points too easily sometimes.

>.>

[Firebringer]

Tails or Bulbazoor why you still playing on that account? You just like the name?

[Firebringer]

Why is there so much sonic in this game?

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Turtles of Despair

I don't trust this turtle too much.

[Firebringer]

You like living eh?
Tell that to the judge!!!

[Firebringer]

The sad, double-prodding pirate probably be non-scurvy, and he'll be sorted out soon enough anyway.

What is non scurvy Yarr?

[Firebringer]

The opposite o' being scurvy.

Exemplum Gratia: That sad-turtle pirate be awfully non-scurvy, makin' him very much unlike the speedy rat pirate who should be walkin' the plank today.

This doesn't explain much so scurvy is scummy?

[Firebringer]

@Mod I am now voting Turtles of Despair

[Firebringer]

It's also on frozen is what I think he means.

This.

[Firebringer]

Gamr, lets talk about our mason chat.
Why aren't you talking in it?

Also, why are you feeling so townie to me?

[Firebringer]

ok I like Yaragammi , Real Scourge and Talis

Barn and Garmr are being weird

I like to go ahead and do this

VOTE: Phoenix Wright he seems so picky. he tried to develop a case on turtles but I can't sincerely follow his thought process. and I think the way he calls people hard trier.

Frozen I am voting Turtles too, and I don't trust that turtle. Thoughts?

[Firebringer]

Not to mention how bad an idea double lynching on d1 is.

Agreed.

[Firebringer]

We don't really have a mason chat it just something we play around with a bit most games after I mistook him for another player who was masons with me in another game. It seems to work well when it comes to sorting each other out early game and we look at other peoples reactions to it as well. This game not many people have reacted to it through which is a change.

The fact so few people even mentioned it should tell us something.
My thoughts are Radical is town though for pointing it out.

It is weird from outside looking in.

[Firebringer]

I think one of Phoenix and Turtle is scum leaning on Turtles.

[Firebringer]

Yarrgami you are being very cynical here. I think Not Mafia is going for some weird town play to avoid getting NKed.
But now I outed him, so he has no choice but to not play that act anymore

[Firebringer]

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there Firebringer.

I can't see someone who makes a point to be obnoxious NOT being NKed by someone.

Why would scum waste a NK on a player pretending to be jester?

[Firebringer]

From a gameplay perspective, they wouldn't.

From a human perspective, because that player's annoying and they have the best means of shutting them up.

I mean...I did that once in a game as a Serial Killer, just kill ap layer that was extremely annoying. I immedately regretted it afterwards because they were such easy mislynch bait, I promised never would do that again unless I legit thought they were TPR trying to fly under radar.

[Firebringer]

Lets cause harm and do it.

[Firebringer]

Yarrrgami popcorn flavor. You first. GO!

[Firebringer]

That was an unexpected flip.

Scum ping from this.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Radical Rat

Be picky.
Join the revolution!

[Firebringer]

I'm sorry, but I refuse to live in a state of perpetual RVS. I refuse to let the fate of our Town rest in the hands of fate.

I recognize that you are far more experienced than I am, but I play Mafia for the strategy and the thought and the dramatic turnabouts.

To play by simply random lynching and hoping is to spit in the face of Maria's spirit, and I won't stand for it.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Lazy vote by a lazy scum.

[Firebringer]

Join me

I was voting Radical Rat before it was cool mate.

[Firebringer]

Get the rat!
Is what I say.

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE:

[Firebringer]

tails be growing on me like a barnacle

VOTE: frozen angel

Barnacles feel good to be grown on?

[Firebringer]

Sonic, only bastard games have jesters! there's no reason to pretend to be a jester in a game like this.
also, sorry for the prodge, hopefully ill be back tonight.

hello Varsoon, thanks for taking over for Jeanne while she's away! i really like your games.

I can't believe only Bastard games have jester, its standard where I come from

[Firebringer]

becuase I was totally inactive.

there is nothing to read me base of.

what is it if its not policy?

and 8 days and 7 hours is not enough to make a lynch?

you suck in pushing mislynches ...

actually that was enough to make me omgus you

VOTE: A Real Scourge

This makes me think Frozen is actually scum in this.

[Firebringer]

Soren want to be my town buddy?

[Firebringer]

Only if I get head pats.

if you give me fish, I will give you head pats.

[Firebringer]

Frozen, you are definitely flailing a bit here.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Frozen Angel

[Firebringer]

Soren, Firebringer, where are the scum?

Everywhere? Its not soren tho.

[Firebringer]

out of everyone here you're most confident that Soren is town?
you don't have any other reads?

Tails and Yarrrgami are probably town too.

[Firebringer]

I can read FB fairly right i guess ...

No you can't, no one can.
That is my magic!

[Firebringer]

FireBringer, why are you so certain about Soren? Just because you happened to share a read?

I have a good feeling about him, unlike you. Who I still don't feel good about. But I will let you slide because of the claim.

[Firebringer]

Frozen Angel, why you hammer? I like you!!!
Don't do this ;(

UNVOTE:

;(

[Firebringer]

[Firebringer]

I wish that was a hammer

this game is just driving me mad

Please stay Frozen, if you are town we can figure this game out together!

[Firebringer]

SHE CALLED ME A CREATURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM ANGRY, NORMAL PEOPLE GET ANGRY,,

Stop it.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: KainTepes

[Firebringer]

You have any final reds Frozen?

[Firebringer]

not mafia is town though i think......

Why is he town? Because he is a cow like you?

[Firebringer]

I will miss you Frozen ;(

[Firebringer]

no you won't

yes I will

[Firebringer]

no you won't

You want to talk?

[Firebringer]

[Firebringer]

I kind of want to just replace out of this game.

[Firebringer]

I also think Not_Mafia is Town as of now.

Unless neighboriser ISN'T Town-only...

Neighboriser isn't town only.

[Firebringer]

I am not happy with this game, I may be subbing out.
Haven't decided.

[Firebringer]

Tails is town so I should sheep him:
VOTE: Phoenix Wroght

[Firebringer]

UGH there are no votecounts and i'm not even sure how many players there are left in the game. nobody else vote.

One of the huge problems with this game.

[Firebringer]

Yarrrgami if you think I would say that because a scummate was just lynched, you should vote me.

It has to do with how this game has been handled by the mod.

[Firebringer]

Yarrrgami is voting Soren?
Thats a bad vote, Soren is obv town.

[Firebringer]

Sorens tone has been town. Thats what I have been seeing from his posts, Phoenix has been null to me entire game, so I am fine sheeping Tails who is another town read go for him.

ALso radical, your vote is almost as bad as Yarrgamis.

[Firebringer]

Seconded.

Motion denied, next case.

[Firebringer]

Aren't you being opportunistic since public sentiment towards me is pretty low?
lol

[Firebringer]

Aren't you being opportunistic since public sentiment towards me is pretty low?
lol

You have half the game townreading you. That's not a low public opinion.

However, this post here has me rethinking my own townread on you...
But I'm waiting on Tails to get over here and explain himself.

Hmmm, that doesn't seem right.

Check the public opinion polls again. My numbers can never be that high.

[Firebringer]

Faking newbiness seems like a breach in ethics to me... idk what all the rules on that stuff is though.

This is mafia, where your supposed to lie. Why is lying about being a newbie unethical?

[Firebringer]

There's a difference in lying about your role/actions/reads and lying about circumstances outside of a game.

We aren't supposed to not bring outside influences into the game anyways. Part of the game, if you consider a player to be a newbie and they tell you such. Then you should not use that as a factor into reading them because they could be lying.

We aren't required to be truthful at all in these games.

[Firebringer]

Yes, yes, back to business.

Tails is scum, Turtles might also be.

Let's get crackin'

Turtles is meh for me.

Tails, no way. Ill eat my hat if he is.

[Firebringer]

SuperTown List:
Scourge
Yarrrrgami
Phoenix

Town List:
Firebringer

Scum List:
Tails

Please For The Love Of The Town Post Something List:
Turtles of Despair
Soren
KainTepes

How is Pheonix and Yarrrgami super town?
I mean, I have a town lean on Yarrr, but as of lately is been...challenged.

[Firebringer]

fight me

I am rooting for Tails.

[Firebringer]

They've been honest, cooperative, active, and helpful all game.
You also have for most of it, but recent events have lessened my faith in you, while I find myself continuing to agree with Phoenix and Yarrrrgami.

How is "cooperative" a town tell? That seems like more of a null/scum one if anything.
Honesty, for most part agree. Activity should be general null.

Helpful is debatable.

[Firebringer]

I mean cooperative as in willing to share information and being open when questioned.

As opposed to getting all secretive and defensive, trying to hide their master plan.

Isn't that part of being honest?

[Firebringer]

Yes. It is. See, sometimes actions are multiple things at a time.

. . . . . . . .

This game man.

[Firebringer]

how about you stop ignoring me and answer my question? what exactly has happened in the game that makes you unhappy with the mod? and not happy about nabbing scum?

I am not ignoring you, I am not bringing drama into the game. I can voice my opinions about the mod after game.

Theres no need for it now.

[Firebringer]

lemme be clear about my intentions here, I want to rule out that you are a scummate of fa's just cos of your late game interactions (it sort of looks like you felt bad when she threw a hissy fit about the bus, if that is indeed what was happening) and your opening post struck me as scumplaining.

the town!soren is another thing that rubs me the wrong way cos I am still not really an answer from you as to why they are town. "oh by their tone" doesn't quite cut it cos they have been largely out of step with the gameflow and I feel like I have been waiting for content from them since forever. they do not feel town. they feel like turtling scum. so I am very curious as to how you have obtained that read.

so I wld love to sort this all out so that I can either move or continue to push your lynch. I find it really interesting that you cld tell that fa was scum flailing and not town flailing cos I am pretty sure we were the only 2 pple who thought that.

I am not here to defend myself, I wish I unvoted FA, I think our lynch on her waas more Policy than anything which makes me feel bad, even if it was a scum lynch.

You can townread me or scumread that w/e.

[Firebringer]

lol, yarrrgami going to be mad when I flip.

[Firebringer]

I don't care about setup spec, I have a null on Phoenix. Town on Tails.

[Firebringer]

firebringer, if only mafia were so easy as finding a single townread and sheeping them. put out a readslist.

Here you go:

Town
Soren
Tails
A Real Scourge
Radical Rat

Null-Town
Yarrrgami

Null
Turtles
Phoenix Wright
Kain Tepes

[Firebringer]

I am not mad i am frustrated. I need help sorting fire cos I can't do it by myself.

This seems scummy to me.

[Firebringer]

since when

When have I ever setup specced?

[Firebringer]

preview: why does it seem scummy to you, fire? because you think she should be able to sort you herself, or that she's asking for help?

It implies she wants a consensus on someone, but really just subtle manipulation in that she believes you have to agree on him.

Its a way to gauge thoughts on players while not seeming manipulative.
Its leading you into a certain train of thought.

[Firebringer]

so according to this and what you've said before, you should be alright with sheeping me and Sonic on Turtles of Despair.
explain to me why you're not, please. also explain why 'tone' is strong enough to put someone in your townpile - talking about Soren - when a player's tone is often just their playstyle?

Tone isn't part of playstyle.

[Firebringer]

Oh, and add Titus to that list, because I joined this game because she said it was good.

Its a bad game.

[Firebringer]

both of you suck.

YOU DONT KNOW WHAT ROLES SCUM HAS OMGGGGG
mods experiment with roles all the time

I am not even setup speccing.

[Firebringer]

since when

When have I ever setup specced?

Subject: Blitz 5: Netherspite's Blitz SORM Mafia [Game Over]

We should just massclaim and break this game wide open.

reads like set up spec to me!

You quoted a Semi-Open game and used that as my setup spec game?
Are you

FUCKING SERIOUS!

Okay, you are an absolute moron.
I am a Starcraft II Mafia Player.
That setup, is basically from my homesite/mod.

I had played it 1000 of times, so I know the roles in the game, because you know:

ITS A SEMI OPEN

In summary: Your stupid.

[Firebringer]

Tails, there is no evidence for or against a Strongman! no protective roles have targeted any of the killed players. scum could very well have used a Strongman shot on Not_Mafia or something and we'd have no way of knowing.

No one was going to protect Not Mafia.
Are you joking?

Thats like saying a doc or bg would go on me.
It aint happening.

[Firebringer]

you do set up spec cos that is how the is played on your homesite at least that is what you said in ANOTHER game that I was in with you.

so you are lying and want to avoid any discussion on set up spec for some reason. mostly that you do it.

Shut up. I don't setup spec on Closed Setups because its a pointless endeavor.

My homesite never does a Closed Setup.

In summary: I am not a liar, you are misinformed and still a moron.

[Firebringer]

i'm pretty sure Firebringer, myself, and Yarrrrgami are the only players in this game who've yet to claim. lmao

preview: Tails this is the first valid thing you've said about Phoenix tbh. it's weird he didn't seem to think about

anything

before just claiming

I am not claiming either.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer why are you townreading Tails so hard if the majority of his hunting this day has been 'a pointless endeavor'?

So because someone does something that is pointless they aren't town?
What the fuck is your logic at?

[Firebringer]

Seriously, I never even said Tails was town for his actions today. He was town for me before this day, before the setup spec and def before his claim.

Scourge, where is your head?

[Firebringer]

why do you think is frustrated? the only person he finds scummy in the entire game is suddenly moi, cos I a calling him out on his shit.

I called your some of your behavior scummy, you even look at my reads list?
You can't read for shit.

[Firebringer]

That was my point before I felt forced to claim. Phoenix's actions do not match up with his claimed role. He showed 0 suspicion of Sonic d2, even though he should have seen that as a counter claim i.e. scum claim (such as how I felt about his role in relation to mine), and then after he claimed a protection on NM, he didn't even consider a strongman and tried to lynch Sonic with the lying reasoning (something I would have also expected more from him as town a day earlier). Only later does he decide to "ask" the mod. Wouldn't that be something he'd do right away before outing if he was town?

If you consider roles (which I don't), this actually has some good points.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer it's fine for you to townread Tails but you are sheeping his read that came from actions YOU have deemed pointless for scumhunting. that's about as useful as voting randomly.

I am voting someone who is Null, and therefore not town to me.
Then I looked at my town reads who had a case on someone and decided "well the person they are voting for is null for me, I don't see why not sheep"

Thats literally my train of thought.

[Firebringer]

YOU stfu.

and stop it with the insults

You have been misrepresenting me since the start of this day.
And you want me to shut up?

I thought you wanted to read me?
I guess you just wanted to discredit and misrepresent.

[Firebringer]

okay then why aren't you sheeping me on Turtles? that fits all the same criteria? your readslist you just posted says so.
considering Tails' case is based on setup spec, which is 'pointless', why are you sheeping that case instead of mine?

I would lynch Turtles, but Pheonix is also more active.

[Firebringer]

Tails you know that Nick attempted to jailkeep Not_Mafia LAST NIGHT, (n2) right? he wouldn't have known about his action failing on Day 2.

That action doesn't make sense.
Who would jailkeep Not Mafia?
Seriously.

[Firebringer]

I am sorry Yarrrgami, I want to apologize for my insults.
But I am very annoyed that you say I setup spec on this site.
Then you bring up one game (that was semi open) and use it as proof.

I find that very misleading.

[Firebringer]

activity is NIA
lurkers are bad for town in late-game anyways
so if thats the only thing that's weighing your vote i then have to ask if you are playing for town

No, I am obviously scum.

What kind of leading question is that?

[Firebringer]

Phoenx since you are here, why did you JK Not Mafia?

[Firebringer]

Phoenx since you are here, why did you JK Not Mafia?

I thought he was scum and I didn't want him to kill anyone. It's pretty straightforward

So you thought Not Mafia was going to attempt to kill?

[Firebringer]

this was 1 of my more pleasant games until fire started being an ass.

I want to apologize again, I am sorry Yarrrgami.
I am very annoyed by you, but my behavior is uncalled for.

[Firebringer]

Is that not what scum do? Can you ask some questions that aren't redundant please?

I am saying usually scum can pick who performs a kill. Why did you think Not Mafia would be the one to over his partner(s).

[Firebringer]

Turtles partner is one of Firebringer/Phoenix, probably.

Soren is another contender but it's hard to tell

Turtles is voting for Soren. So you are thinking he is bussing right now for no real reason? Nobody is pushing Soren.

Also I stated I would lynch Turtles and you think he is my ally? Lol. Okay

Just because I won't sheep you right now, I am likely scum lolk.

[Firebringer]

and I am telling you I have seen you do it. absolutely not. but I have seen you do it in at least a cple of games but I am not going to go digging through your game history to look them up.

I was trying very hard to be gentle with cos you seemed on edge. don't take your pissiness with the game out on me. I am trying to figure out why you are so unhappy that we lynched scum in the previous day round, it is not that hard.

I don't setup spec a closed game.
Unless you and I have different definitions of setup spec.

I don't want to argue with you on this anymore. I don't setup spec Closed, they are too troll for me to do and requires me to guess what mod is thinking. I have a whole thread in GD about this.

[Firebringer]

Tails, want to just lynch Turtles today?
We can lynch Phoenix tomorrow.
I really don't care. This game sucks:

VOTE: Turtles of Despair

[Firebringer]

He is pretty noob town.

You don't excuse scummy behavior because a player is new, and we already discussed he isn't "new"

[Firebringer]

Playing since November isn't new? Lol

I have been playing since June. I didn't even consider myself New in August.

[Firebringer]

mollie, please please trust me on this. i know i've only played one game with you, if fire is scum we can push him tomorrow as well. you must be reading Turtles posts here, he's doing the same thing firebringer is doing to you

preview: damn Phoenix ARE you scum??

You are literally like a cartoon character cut out.
Its funny seeing you interact with everyone.

[Firebringer]

Summarize your case on me, right now.
Nothing you have said is legit.

This is what I would say If I was scum defending myself lol.

[Firebringer]

Did anyone else notice that Tails disappeared as soon as all the attention went onto me and turtles?

I don't blame him. This game is a shit show.
And he isn't getting his lynch on you right now.

[Firebringer]

I am not posting anything but prodges till this game day ends.

[Firebringer]

Prod doget.

[Firebringer]

Requesting forced replacement of Firebringer
After literally posting that he does not intend to play the game anymore and simply "prodge" I'd like to have an actual player in here, helping discussion, throwing out ideas, etc.
I tried to get actual content, but to no avail. This is deliberate obstruction of the game, and I request that it be dealt with.

I would force replace those who ask for someone to force replace.
Because you know, rude.

[Firebringer]

Then perhaps you should actually try playing the game. Just because things didn't go however you thought they should have is no excuse to just sit and do nothing.

I have plenty of posts for this game day.
I have stated I am done arguing with all of you.
Lynch Turtles and lets be done with it.

[Firebringer]

Charmander Char!

[Firebringer]

firebringer your avatar is too squashed

Char Char Char!!!

[Firebringer]

I always chose Squirtle as my starter

You get lynched tomorrow for that.
Nobody likes Squirtle but scum.

[Firebringer]

Ohhh yeah. This game?
So who is left if not Phoenix?

Yarrrgami? Only one that I can imagine being scum now, have a town read on everyone else.

[Firebringer]

I am a horrible player tho. You seen me in the blitz games? 3 games straight I early voted in LYLO and lost it for town. I am straight up shit at the game.

[Firebringer]

I like how mollie assumes that I should towered them.

[Firebringer]

Hey Kain Tepes is still in game guys. We should policy them, get it over with.

[Firebringer]

Wait did scourge check them?
Man, I am really not following the game.

[Firebringer]

more sense to lynch soren who hasn't done diddly this game. like he looks just as bad as fire.

Thanks?

[Firebringer]

Hell we can do a Soren lynch. I really think that will be a mislynch but we got room for that:
VOTE: Soren

[Firebringer]

V/LA next few days. Mafia sucks.

[Firebringer]

Wow, they were really scum?

[Firebringer]

Votecount
Soren (2) - Tails, Firebringer, Yarrrrgami, A Real Scourge
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Soren has been lynched. He was

Kaito, Vanilla Townie.

Please send your night actions in (expired on 2016-03-22 22:45:00)

I like how this was inaccurate for several days. Kain Tepes is apparently dead according to the mod.

[Firebringer]

Wow, they were really scum?

Town*, I need sleep.

Really thought it was yarrrgami and they were setting up a mislynch on me.
Who cares tho, this game is lame.

[Firebringer]

None of the kills makes sense, but I am thinking its Tails over Sonic to be honest.
He was setting up mislynch on Phoenix, highly doubt its Kain. God that would be a troll game. Kind want him to win if he is scum lol.

I am so stumped on Scourge being still alive.. I think scum just really wanted a safe kill. Tails targetting yarrgami makes sense over Scourge too, cause then he can just say "I was healing scourge", couldn't do that in the reverse. We would call bs on that immediately.

[Firebringer]

It's tails.
And I just want to note if I am in LYLO with Kain. I am voting the other player, Kain is to hilarious/town to lynch.

[Firebringer]

Sorry Tails, I am pretty sure you are scum in this >.>
VOTE: Tails

I like you, nothing personal.

[Firebringer]

FIRE - I wld love to have an explanation.

Frozen was 100% a policy lynch and the modding on this left much to be desired.