Mini 1768: Detective Conan Mafia (Game Over: Town Wins)

[Tails]

If both are town and Phoenix is scum, he would have said town/town or let it go on.

[Garmr]

@tails
Also my play is good with the ammount of scum I normally nail in my games I just think you have a shit view on what's good and what isn't. Since I nailed you as town before (through I was replaced out.)

[Turtles of Despair]

If both are town and Phoenix is scum, he would have said town/town or let it go on.

No one is stupid enough to say every situation is possible. He eliminated a few to look like he was engaging. Or at least that is what I think. Stop defending him and let him defend himself plz. I can't get a solid read on him arguing with you.
~Bee

[Phoenix Wright]

Explain yourselves, guys

You hardcore fence sat pretty early on.

Do you even hear yourself? If it's the top of the second page of the game, obviously we don't have enough information to make strong judgements about anyone. That's not sitting on the fence. It's playing like a normal person. I've been thinking about this for a while and since you want me to take a strong stance, here you go

VOTE: turtles of despair

[Radical Rat]

Okay, let's all take a breather here.

Getting pissy with each other isn't going to get us anywhere.

[Tails]

Unvote
Vote Barn

I get not liking accounts with a similar style to what I've chosen to adopt here (occasionally), but I've been putting in some pretty good input as of late. You're just choosing to address policy matters over gameplay in order to avoid actually producing content.

[Phoenix Wright]

@turtles of despair You're not trying to get a read on me. I have more votes than everyone else and so far you've just tried to justify your position on the wagon

[Garmr]

@Garmr: I think you would have done some light poking first. Soren's post could absolutely come from a town mindset just trying to comprehend your actions. Questioning him and trying to get his mindset would have been more productive than voting him and being antagonistic. Furthermore, you know this. I've seen you break out the subtlety before. You felt threatened and overreacted. You being scum is not a far off conclusion.

That being said, Barn's defense of you is making me uncomfortable.

Why poke lightly when you can make them nervous and apply pressure straight away. You can see he was trying portray me in a negative light straight away and he was really stretching for a scum read. Btw What are you going to achieve with a light poke early game other than give them time to prepare? This sounds like a difference in play styles than something you would scum read someone for.

[Turtles of Despair]

Explain yourselves, guys

You hardcore fence sat pretty early on.

Do you even hear yourself? If it's the top of the second page of the game, obviously we don't have enough information to make strong judgements about anyone. That's not sitting on the fence. It's playing like a normal person. I've been thinking about this for a while and since

you want me to take a strong stance, here you go

VOTE: turtles of despair

It is the top of the second page and you said all but 1 situation is possible in an interaction. I think town would have a stronger position then that or at least pretend to in order to get a reaction out of someone. You also at least could have tried to give your vote some credibility.
VOTE: Fire Birdo
VOTE: Fire Birdo

Good thing me and Kirro have 2 votes

~Bee

[Barn Of Justice]

PW, are you scum?

[Turtles of Despair]

@turtles of despair You're not trying to get a read on me. I have more votes than everyone else and so far you've just tried to justify your position on the wagon

I was on the Soren wagon until my last post. I thought Soren was scummier than you until your recent posts.
~Bee

[Tails]

@Garmr: It sounds like someone trying to get out of RVS and develop a read on another player. At most it's null.

[Tails]

And everybody is seriously missing that scum does not say what Phoenix did.

[Phoenix Wright]

Explain yourselves, guys

You hardcore fence sat pretty early on.

Do you even hear yourself? If it's the top of the second page of the game, obviously we don't have enough information to make strong judgements about anyone. That's not sitting on the fence. It's playing like a normal person. I've been thinking about this for a while and since

you want me to take a strong stance, here you go

VOTE: turtles of despair

It is the top of the second page and you said all but 1 situation is possible in an interaction. I think town would have a stronger position then that or at least pretend to in order to get a reaction out of someone. You also at least could have tried to give your vote some credibility.
VOTE: Fire Birdo
VOTE: Fire Birdo

Good thing me and Kirro have 2 votes

~Bee

It's funny that you've been talking about fence sitting yet you've called me scummy for a while and only just voted me lol

@turtles of despair You're not trying to get a read on me. I have more votes than everyone else and so far you've just tried to justify your position on the wagon

I was on the Soren wagon until my last post. I thought Soren was scummier than you until your recent posts.
~Bee

Thanks for the OMGUS

[Phoenix Wright]

PW, are you scum?

Nope. Are you?

[A Real Scourge]

i agree that this sounds like more of a playstyle issue than anything else. Tails is saying what he would do as town, which doesn't account for what other players might do as town. i said this earlier, but i think that scumreading Soren for that initial post isn't, by itself, wrong.

i was gonna have words with sonic, but it looks like he's had the sense to back off. i'd say more to take advantage of the sheer sonic superiority in this game, but i'm just too nice.
(seriously though, i'd call his vote and quick unvote after rereading towny!)

preview: ah, i'm trying to keep up with the convo here. i wanna talk about the Phoenix Wagon.

[Garmr]

I'm against the pw wagon reasoning in a sec because of constant ninjas.

[Tails]

Okay. I think it's scum driven. You?

[Barn Of Justice]

PW, are you scum?

Nope. Are you?

Are you

sure

you're not scum?

[Phoenix Wright]

PW, are you scum?

Nope. Are you?

Are you

sure

you're not scum?

Defense attorneys uphold the law. We don't break the law.

[Turtles of Despair]

It's funny that you've been talking about fence sitting yet you've called me scummy for a while and only just voted me lol

O.o I was voting Soren who I thought was scummier. The difference between you and me is that you where fence sitting while having no solid scum read. I did have a scum read and can only put my votes in 1 place at a time so this isn't a real claim.

[quote="In post 138, Phoenix Wright]
Thanks for the OMGUS[/quote]

You actually OMGUSed me because you voted me because I said you where scummy. o3o

~Bee

[Turtles of Despair]

@turtles of despair You're not trying to get a read on me. I have more votes than everyone else and so far you've just tried to justify your position on the wagon

What do you think of my votes on you after realizing this was a misunderstanding on your part?
~Bee

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: Barn

Here's what I see. Barn shows up and makes a post which appears to be designed to rub people the wrong way, and even attack a few people on a personal level, primarily Tails.

Suddenly, everyone's arguing and OMGUSing and getting nowhere. Precisely what scum wants, no?

[A Real Scourge]

And everybody is seriously missing that scum does not say what Phoenix did.

you're referring to how scum phoenix would have called it tvt? if so, i don't really agree... i think phoenix's post could have come from either alignment. scum like to call things TvS.
sorry for a bunch of replies in a few posts instead of just one larger post, but i find writing walls just gets you ninja'd, plus individual posts are like... waaayyy easier to respond to

oh, and preview says you think phoenix's wagon is scum driven. i'm planning on examining the votes to really see how i feel about them, but as it stands i'm not liking phoenix.

preview: Sonic's idea that Barn is trying to rile people up is interesting. i didn't like barn when he showed up. lemme read those exchanges again.

[Garmr]

It feels like either one of 3 thinhs is happening right now

Either
1)Soren is town and his reasons for being suspicious of garmr are right
2)Garmr is town and Soren is trying to paint him in a bad light because he's scum
Or
3)Both of you are scum and this is some early scum distancing

this seems like he is trying to work out current events.

It feels like either one of 3 thinhs is happening right now

Either
1)Soren is town and his reasons for being suspicious of garmr are right
2)Garmr is town and Soren is trying to paint him in a bad light because he's scum
Or
3)Both of you are scum and this is some early scum distancing

And what do you think it is?

I can't tell yet. But I'm leaning towards option 2 so far.

Thought he actually voted soren here would of made my town read solid.

Just noticed that 3 people haven't posted yet

Can you give me your town and scum reads?
~Bee

I don't have much to go on yet. The closest thing I have to a read right now is that I'm slightly suspicious of Soren, garmr and barn of Justice because it looked like Soren might've been defending him (possible scum partners?).

P-edit: Wow, you guys really hate lawyers

Seems like his still undecided. by this post.

He just kinda seems after this nullisih and reactionary.

I get a null town read from his early game. I just remember him being stronger out of iso reads weird.