Blitz 25: Super Mario uPick! (Koopa Troop victory!)

[lilith2013]

VOTE: Lilleth

Why do you hate RC anyway?

I don't he just thinks I do, idk why

VOTE: FA for being above me in the playerlist

[lilith2013]

RC you're not gonna weigh in on whether you think I hate you?

[lilith2013]

RC you're not gonna weigh in on whether you think I hate you?

don't hate him!

Or as his .... I will force to hate you

Ooooo!
Gossip time!

I like fill in the blanks!
Is it Peach?

LOL

[lilith2013]

Alright, FA is town.

Explain?

[lilith2013]

Okay. Hi xtox.

You know I'm not a fan of reaction tests. What are you expecting to learn from me?

[lilith2013]

Yeah I don't like this.

VOTE: amihan

[lilith2013]

Dammit I think that's L-1.

UNVOTE:

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Yeah but.. that wagon was so fast.

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God dammit Lilith! I swear to Ninjagod!
I like this actually. You can stay.

Why?

[lilith2013]

So.... Are you getting off the wagon or?

[lilith2013]

No, I currently like my vote. I just understand where people get the sentiment now.

I don't understand. Are you saying that Ami is too scummy to be scum?

[lilith2013]

@heat: no, not really.

I've been entirely serious this entire game, but it seems that because I'm neither 1, playing within the parameters you're comfortable with, or 2, trying and failing to be funny (see: Firebringer), that this wagon is happening.

But that's fine. If that's how you all want to play I'd rather leave sooner than later anyway.

Please don't feel like this, I find your unconventional approach refreshing and your posting altogether more sensible than mine. But I highly doubt anything good would happen if we were to lynch RC--in fact, I'd lean towards something bad happening because of it.

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I'd lean towards something bad happening because of it.

Could you provide a reasonable example?

Theoretically, the mod's function is to hold information. The way the logic played out in my past experience was that lynching the mod would weaken that and release some information. Mind you, this wasn't our reasoning in lynching him (we did so because "lol why not"), but that was the mod's logic in choosing

before the game started

to have a player exposed if that were to happen.

It's just speculation on my part. I've never seen a mod lynch happen in my short time here, but I think the meta is such that a mod wouldn't expect for one to happen.

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Firebringer, what are your thoughts on lillith?

Null leaning scum.

Um.. why?

[lilith2013]

any reasons?

A few posts seem kind of fake tone wise.

Okay. Which of my posts seem fake to you?

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My role.

Sorry?

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Heat, why did you ask fb about his read on me?

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Heat, why did you ask fb about his read on me?

I wanted to divert attention back to the game.

Okay, but why me specifically? Why not Aristo or xtox?

Lets lynch Lilith2013

Let's not.

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I'm just asking.

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Because I thought Heat chose two people who were active in thread at the time. iirc you and xtox were both posting recently before heat's question.

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Wow that was a really freaking quick turnaround.

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Because I thought Heat chose two people who were active in thread at the time. iirc you and xtox were both posting recently before heat's question.

But he's already been pretty explicit, at least on myself.
That's what raised my eyebrow there.

He has? Did I miss it?

Wow that was a really freaking quick turnaround.

It's early game still. Everything is settling and reads are fickle.

I want to sort you, so let's see where this goes!

Okay, let's talk about things?

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Damn I really don't know if it's just my instinct to be as contrary as possible but I am liking this wagon less with every new person who jumps on it.

[lilith2013]

Okay, so Lil, some questions then.

What made you speculate that lynching RC would do necktie things rather than nothing? Where did this come from?

It just seems weird that you are giving this credence here.

It was related to something I thought had been said in EiAL 2 but then I checked back and what I thought had been said (that lynching the mod would probably lead to bad consequences because of a mod-meta kind of thing from EiAL 1) had actually been about voting for the Counsel (dead thread vote). So yeah I realized after I said it that's it just pretty much inapplicable to this situation.

What is your read on Heat? They are a popular name in your ISO.

I like that he's trying to get us away from the amihan mess and moving the game forward and trying to engage people so a tentative townlean, I think.

Why do 124 and 128 feel so defensive? Among other posts, they appear more worried about yourself than others. You don't appear to be sorting the game, just reacting to it.

Uh... idk? I'm not sure how to respond to this other than to say that the defensiveness is something I'm trying to work on because it happens regardless of my alignment and people always jump on me for it. And I also pretty much suck at being useful D1 if left to my own devices. Can you like get back to me later with your thoughts on this? (Both later on in the game and after it ends.) I'm curious as to whether what you've said actually sways people's opinions of me.

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I want to hear if ami has some kind of evidence related to her role (which I think she hinted at) leading her to believe this.

[lilith2013]

I want to hear if ami has some kind of evidence related to her role (which I think she hinted at) leading her to believe this.

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I want to hear if ami has some kind of evidence related to her role (which I think she hinted at) leading her to believe this.

I do.

Can you explain what it is without giving away your role?

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It's not. I asked RC and he said that any mod-lynching mechanic would make this game bastard.

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Ya cause I was close to flipping on ami cause she wasn't fucking dropping the topic!!
Like why are we still talking about it

Because you wanting to get off the topic looks more like posturing about it than actually getting off the topic

That wasnt my intention though but anyways it looks like the whole matter is resolved now.

VOTE: Lillith

Is there any particular reason for this vote or?

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Did I never move my vote to lilith?
VOTE: Lilith2013

I swear I did.

Man I am really not understanding this. I don't think my play is much different from the other game we were in together and neither is my tone.

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I was referring to another game that ami and I are in. I have already said that I'm pretty useless D1 and this holds true for basically any game I'm in regarding reads.

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I don't like Lilith going quiet in response to being wagoned, and I don't like that she's still not voting this close to deadline. If she's not going to help bring this day to a positive conclusion, then I have no problem with her exiting.

Ranger's posting is okay, but nothing that makes me want to unvote. I find it odd that for all the opinions Ranger has given, she hasn't touched or mentioned the vote she inherited from Jackal.

What would you like me to do here? I'm feeling pretty useless because I'm having a hard time forming reads.

[lilith2013]

Okay.. well I think Ranger is a bad wagon because Jackal's been posting all over site that he won't have internet access until March so it's not like he's replacing out for tactical reasons. Out of the people on that wagon, I don't like FA and Firebringer.. FA for the attempt to defend Ami's points while she was still on the wagon. Firebringer for jumping on me for "fake tone" so quickly. And maybe heat and bluetrin for that reason as well, although I know I said I liked heat earlier. I think I'm townreading Aristo for resisting jumping on my wagon when that would have been an easy choice for him to make so I'm okay with this:

VOTE: FA

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2 votes /= wagon?

My wagon came out of literally nowhere too.

[lilith2013]

And tell me why again you don't trust me? Is it because of tone?

Because again, you've played with town!me before and I am not seeing how my tone or play is any different than it was then.

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And tell me why again you don't trust me? Is it because of tone?

Because again, you've played with town!me before and I am not seeing how my tone or play is any different than it was then.

that vote was creepy believe it lilith. I don't trust you becuase of your creepy vote. Your better than this to vote to someone like that

Why are you calling Jackal scummy for replacing out if we can see from his posts elsewhere on the site that it truly is because he won't have internet until March? Do you think he's lying?

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Why are you calling Jackal scummy for replacing out if we can see from his posts elsewhere on the site that it truly is because he won't have internet until March? Do you think he's lying?

and I was exhausted to check meta

That was weird , I thought were near the deadline I voted and went to sleep! simple as that

Okay but in this post you said he probably wasn't town for replacing out:

Hello everyone
VOTE: Firebringer
Always scum

Wow, why is this not lynched yet?

VOTE: Amihan

Even if town, which I don't think is likely, needs to be gone asap.

Oh and for the record I believe this is

L-1

Wow, why is this not lynched yet?

VOTE: Amihan

Even if town, which I don't think is likely, needs to be gone asap.

Oh and for the record I believe this is

L-1

Do you have nothing else to say about the game?
Really?

Plenty, but would take hours to post it by phone.
Do not have working internet on my PC atm.

Right. So the above 3 posts are his whole iso.

The first is fine. RVS shit. Whatever.

The second is a shitty wagon vote on an easy target without any questions. And he goes "even if town, good lynch" which gives me creepy scum vibes. That is the worst type of apathetic reasoning.

In the third, I had asked for his reads, and basically got "I have them, I swear, but it's too much work, so you can't have them." Once again, busywork. Looks like he's helping but he's contributed nothing.
Had he gone "so and so is a scum read and so and so is a town read but I can't go into it because technical issues" I'd be alright with it. But he just blatantly gives nothing.

Totally okay with this. Scum posting and mentality.

VOTE: Jackal

Bleh. I knew it probably wasn't a good idea to attempt a blitz with shaky internet. Main PC's net is out until at least the beginning of March, and phone net will disappear when that bill becomes overdue in a few days.

@Mod: I really hate to do this but I think it's best for everyone concerned if I request replacement. My internet situation is not stable enough for a blitz game.

(to put things into perspective re: my last post, the small amount of text in this post took an hour to write)

He asked for replace out in the next post after the vote. and without sharing any kind of reads whatsoever. I don't say people are town for asking replace out. especially when they have such a wagon on their back

want to see an example?

So you don't think the replace out was scummy?

Yeah but.. that wagon was so fast.

what is so bad L1 ?

why did you care?

Because L-1 so early in the game gives the chance that someone will, as someone I know puts it, "yolo-hammer." And there was no way I felt strongly enough about Ami's entrance to feel comfortable with that possibility, however small.

Wow that was a really freaking quick turnaround.

That wasn't

that happened so slow

I can't follow your POV here

Aristo said he liked my posts about 6 hours before. Then out of nowhere decides he agrees with firebringer and heat. That's what I mean by a quick turnaround. There was no prior indication that he was thinking about changing his read or doubting his initial read.

Damn I really don't know if it's just my instinct to be as contrary as possible but I am liking this wagon less with every new person who jumps on it.

this is white knighting

basically the wagoned person did nothing to show himself/herself town

Why your trying to dreil the wagon emotionally?

I am not? I just feel uncomfortable with a lot of people joining a wagon quickly.

2 votes /= wagon?

My wagon came out of literally nowhere too.

That's how a wagon bulids dah

so if you don't beleive that I was the scummiest and there shouldn't be a wagon on me why you voted me?

this is not something townie to say

This post was sooo defensive - to explain your vote - and sooo fake

I do believe you are the scummiest so far. That is why I voted you.
Firebringer said that the "wagon" came out of nowhere. I am explaining that 1) it is not a wagon, and 2) he is being hypocritical by saying that because my wagon was the same speed and he didn't notice that but he noticed yours.

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Argh I'm a mason ok.

[lilith2013]

I still don't like firebringer/blue but not sure if it's just bc they don't like me or not.

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Why do you believe me so easily?

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Uh no I'm not lying?

I wrote a thing about xtox and flub but my phone deleted it >> I am leaning town on both though.

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Blue is so noon though, and I like FB.

Thoughts on Xtoxm and Flub?

Why do you like fb?

[lilith2013]

Because I've never been a mason before and I wasn't sure what the right play would be.

[lilith2013]

Do you think that lynching me will yield useful info?


If so, just lynch me.

[lilith2013]

I understand it's about having a lynch and since I have the most votes right now I am willing to be the lynch IF you guys are confident that you can get something useful from my wagon.

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Like obviously I would prefer not to be lynched but any lynch is better than no lynch so if it has to be me then it has to be me. As long as my lynch yields something useful.

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Why are you scumreading ranger and why were you scumreading jackal?

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I'm okay with Ranger, I guess.

If you try to lynch my buddy I am going to rampage

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On a reread, flub is Meh.

That said, I just had a thought.
This would be an alright time to test FA's claim to eliminate wine later on.

Are we doing this?

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What..

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Oh pagetop heh.

[lilith2013]

VOTE: Ranger

We need 2 more people.

[lilith2013]

Again, this is my first time as a mason, I didn't know what the right play was (or whether I should claim at all). I waited because I asked my partner what to do.

[lilith2013]

You can open the Mason pt

Nothing in there anyway

[lilith2013]

VOTE: RC

[lilith2013]

Does this game count towards being a SE ?

Not sure? I don't think so though (or if it does, it might be like a micro and count as half of a full game).