Mini 1774: Formation of America's Mafiascum - Perfect Town W

[SirCakez]

I've been scumreading Nos for a long time. I didn't just develop that scumread from his vote.

[Killthestory]

and yet you still don't explain why

[beeboy]

VOTE: Beeboy
Was looking at ISOs and Beeboy's is terrible. Lots of fluff, so little scumhunting.

Says mr 20 posts.

[beeboy]

I could literally scum read you for the same reason you are scum reading my Kaykes.

[Nosferatu]

Ok Nos is still scum.
What else is new?

even your scum-read on me is unoriginal.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Beeboy
Was looking at ISOs and Beeboy's is terrible. Lots of fluff, so little scumhunting.

Says mr 20 posts.

I didn't accuse your post quantity, I accused your post quality. Get it right.

If anything Nos is OMGUSing me since I've had a scumread on him for much longer then he's started pushing me. And he's using misrep and bs reasons to try to push me so it's pretty obvious.

[Killthestory]

his reasons are actually decent.

and he's actually explaining his scumreads instead of just saying, "well nos is scum

[SirCakez]

Yes voting someone and not saying they are scumreading the person they vote is a great reason to scumread someone /s
Ugh if you want a Nos case you can get one.

[Killthestory]

except you aren't giving it

[beeboy]

except you aren't giving it

This.

[Nosferatu]

and yet you still don't explain why

I'll tell you why, because wguerts made a believable post on why my vote was bad and therefore my slot was bad, so SirCakez hopped in on the fun and voted me. In fact my slot was apparantly so bad that he decided to garner votes on me based on reasoning that WASN'T EVEN HIS.

VOTE: Beeboy
Was looking at ISOs and Beeboy's is terrible. Lots of fluff, so little scumhunting.

Says mr 20 posts.

I didn't accuse your post quantity, I accused your post quality. Get it right.

If anything Nos is OMGUSing me since I've had a scumread on him for much longer then he's started pushing me. And he's using misrep and bs reasons to try to push me so it's pretty obvious.

you don't have a real scum read on me. You don't even have a real goddamn reason. You didn't have one then, and now you're playing dumb for reasons now.

pedit: pls we've already heard the other player's thoughts on the matter.

[SirCakez]

That post meant I was putting it together.

[Killthestory]

That post meant I was putting it together.

why didn't you post it on your first vote

[SirCakez]

59 is an awful reason to vote someone. This is where my initial scumread developed from. Wgeurts initially caught it and I agreed with it. Then in 102 he argues for the vote only to unvote three posts later 105. No conviction there at all.
Then there's a big stretch of one liners from 119 to 211 that contribute nothing and are fluff/coasting.
366 begins his long, terrible push on me, using awful reasoning to scumread like "Just jumps on wagons like a settler." (this is terrible, I only joined one wagon and that was intentional) and then his big "your Persivul vote was pointless" which I've already refuted because Persivul made posts responding directly to his wagon. And then when this is pointed out he made a pointless post handwaving it in 395.

That's why I'm scumreading Nos.

[beeboy]

Ya so I don't like your case on Nos at all.

[SirCakez]

Ya you're probably his scum buddy from how you came in and started defending him and attacking me immediately

[Nosferatu]

wow, such case. Let me make a "case" on cake.

More Nos votes pls
Not many strong reads yet, there's a lot of joking around and roleplaying. I think Window Attack and Suzune are p townie though.

asking for votes and basic observations. Random "reads" really just assessing serious post number

Persivul has hardly done much to deserve a townreading yet imo.

simple "x hasn't done much" that puts persivul in a position to be voted in the future

Not really liking Fire or Kill now. Fire's tunnel is bad and Kill is just not doing anything.

more basic observation

I find it interesting how Kill made two bigger posts directly after I called him out for not doing anything.

observation that is true if made on any person ever.

I find it interesting how Kill made two bigger posts directly after I called him out for not doing anything.

That's not a fair charge. If he continues to do nothing, you continue to suspect him for that. If he does something, you say it's suspicious that he did something in response to being called out. It's like asking someone if they've stopped kicking puppies yet.

Fair enough. The way he popped in and started posting so quickly post-accusation just felt off to me.
Dierfire has done fuck all in game, not really much to read there.
Kill is starting to look like a good vote also.

more observations with no commital.

You're getting ridiculously over defensive.

presenting someone responding to other posts as over defensive when the only posts that can be made will be defensive in nature

Urgh Kill might just be really bad town. His reaction to the fake dayvig was pretty town. I can't get any traction on Now which is annoying as hell so I'll gogo Persivul wagon since I want to sort him and he's not doing anything.
VOTE: Persivul

changing votes because kill wagon is dissolving

Alch why do you hate my Persivul vote? What's wrong with adding pressure to a slot doing nothing?

"what's wrong with voting under the pretext of sorting?"

I'm null scumreading it for lack of content. Thought it was pretty clear but apparently not.

"I'm obviously scumreading it despite presenting any reasons besides a basic observation of their post count guiz"

Urgh Kill might just be really bad town. His reaction to the fake dayvig was pretty town. I can't get any traction on Now which is annoying as hell so I'll gogo Persivul wagon since I want to sort him and he's not doing anything.
VOTE: Persivul

Alch why do you hate my Persivul vote? What's wrong with adding pressure to a slot doing nothing?

I'm looking, and I don't see the term "scum" anywhere. Now it looks like you're backtracking.

VOTE: SirCakez

Yes I didn't explicitly say I was null scumreading him but it was heavily implied. I'm not going to say "I'm scumreading this person!" every time I vote someone, that's just common sense.

saying his nullscum read on persivul was heavily implied despite there being no such insinuation in the post.

Persivul if you didn't like Fire's response so much why vote a lurker instead?

question with no followup that really didn't need to be asked

Just because I didn't say "I'm scumreading him" doesnt mean I wasn't scumreading him.

kek

Just unoriginal and opportunistic. Just jumps on wagons like a settler.

I've only made two non-RVS votes and only one on a wagon (the Persivul vote). This is max misrep.

relying on technicality to just slap MISREP on future posts

Yeah I wanted to join a wagon I agreed with. Wagoning isn't opportunism. And I still possess that scumread on you, Persivul has improved to null since he's started to actually do stuff.

>wagoning isn't opportunism
well no it isn't but jumping on wagons as soon as they seem to be forming is.
>persivul is null because he started to do stuff
as the game progresses everyone will post more so really that's just a pointless statement

don't think I need to pick through earlier posts.

pedit: ye no

[SirCakez]

That case is loaded with misrep, ugh now I have to take the time to go through it and shoot it all down.

[Nosferatu]

you haven't even given a reason on why my first vote was a bad one fam

[SirCakez]

Responses in blue

wow, such case. Let me make a "case" on cake.

More Nos votes pls
Not many strong reads yet, there's a lot of joking around and roleplaying. I think Window Attack and Suzune are p townie though.

asking for votes and basic observations. Random "reads" really just assessing serious post number

Ok, this isn't scummy.

Persivul has hardly done much to deserve a townreading yet imo.

simple "x hasn't done much" that puts persivul in a position to be voted in the future

This isn't scummy either. I did end up voting him in the future, since he continued to not do anything until he got wagoned.

Not really liking Fire or Kill now. Fire's tunnel is bad and Kill is just not doing anything.

more basic observation

This isn't scummy either? Observation and analysis is fine.

I find it interesting how Kill made two bigger posts directly after I called him out for not doing anything.

observation that is true if made on any person ever.

Not really, no.

I find it interesting how Kill made two bigger posts directly after I called him out for not doing anything.

That's not a fair charge. If he continues to do nothing, you continue to suspect him for that. If he does something, you say it's suspicious that he did something in response to being called out. It's like asking someone if they've stopped kicking puppies yet.

Fair enough. The way he popped in and started posting so quickly post-accusation just felt off to me.
Dierfire has done fuck all in game, not really much to read there.
Kill is starting to look like a good vote also.

more observations with no commital.

^ see above

You're getting ridiculously over defensive.

presenting someone responding to other posts as over defensive when the only posts that can be made will be defensive in nature

Not to the level of defensive where he was literally screaming and swearing everywhere.

Urgh Kill might just be really bad town. His reaction to the fake dayvig was pretty town. I can't get any traction on Now which is annoying as hell so I'll gogo Persivul wagon since I want to sort him and he's not doing anything.
VOTE: Persivul

changing votes because kill wagon is dissolving

Yeah because his response was town.

Alch why do you hate my Persivul vote? What's wrong with adding pressure to a slot doing nothing?

"what's wrong with voting under the pretext of sorting?"

??

I'm null scumreading it for lack of content. Thought it was pretty clear but apparently not.

"I'm obviously scumreading it despite presenting any reasons besides a basic observation of their post count guiz"

Already talked about this

Urgh Kill might just be really bad town. His reaction to the fake dayvig was pretty town. I can't get any traction on Now which is annoying as hell so I'll gogo Persivul wagon since I want to sort him and he's not doing anything.
VOTE: Persivul

Alch why do you hate my Persivul vote? What's wrong with adding pressure to a slot doing nothing?

I'm looking, and I don't see the term "scum" anywhere. Now it looks like you're backtracking.

VOTE: SirCakez

Yes I didn't explicitly say I was null scumreading him but it was heavily implied. I'm not going to say "I'm scumreading this person!" every time I vote someone, that's just common sense.

saying his nullscum read on persivul was heavily implied despite there being no such insinuation in the post.

Also already talked about this zzzz

Persivul if you didn't like Fire's response so much why vote a lurker instead?

question with no followup that really didn't need to be asked

Yeah I didn't follow up, his answer made sense kek

Just because I didn't say "I'm scumreading him" doesnt mean I wasn't scumreading him.

kek

Just unoriginal and opportunistic. Just jumps on wagons like a settler.

I've only made two non-RVS votes and only one on a wagon (the Persivul vote). This is max misrep.

relying on technicality to just slap MISREP on future posts

it is misrep though

Yeah I wanted to join a wagon I agreed with. Wagoning isn't opportunism. And I still possess that scumread on you, Persivul has improved to null since he's started to actually do stuff.

>wagoning isn't opportunism
well no it isn't but jumping on wagons as soon as they seem to be forming is.

How do wagons form if people don't join them when they start forming???

>persivul is null because he started to do stuff
as the game progresses everyone will post more so really that's just a pointless statement

This is terrible considering some of the players in this game still have yet to do much of anything.

don't think I need to pick through earlier posts.

pedit: ye no

[beeboy]

Ya you're probably his scum buddy from how you came in and started defending him and attacking me immediately

Yup you caught me

[Nosferatu]

you wanna see a misrep?

59 is an awful reason to vote someone. This is where my initial scumread developed from. Wgeurts initially caught it and I agreed with it. Then in 102 he argues for the vote only to unvote three posts later 105. No conviction there at all.
Then there's a big stretch of one liners from 119 to 211 that contribute nothing and are fluff/coasting.
366 begins his long, terrible push on me, using awful reasoning to scumread like "Just jumps on wagons like a settler." (this is terrible, I only joined one wagon and that was intentional) and then his big "your Persivul vote was pointless" which I've already refuted because Persivul made posts responding directly to his wagon. And then when this is pointed out he made a pointless post handwaving it in 395.

this is a misrep.

first you say my vote logic was bad without saying why.

then you claim I had no conviction because I unvoted after reading a post that legit explains why the post persival made wasn't scummy. Continuing the vote after would have been tunneling. It's a lose-lose situation there, and either way you would've construed it as bad.

next you claim that all my posts from 119 to 211 were all fluff one-liners when they were actually responses to current posts, not just basic observations, which your ISO makes up.

next you claim my reason for scum reading you were bad and using a quote that I said was misleading later.

and then you use your stupid ass post saying your vote on persivul was useful because he mentioned you in a later post.

that's a fucking misrep fam.

pedit: oh boy

[SirCakez]

you haven't even given a reason on why my first vote was a bad one fam

It's really obvious why it was bad. Persivul never said his vote was random and you assumed it was.
P-Edit: Yessssss I knew it
P-P-Edit: ew

[Nosferatu]

>observation and analysis isn't scummy
the point is that there isn't analysis fam

you haven't even given a reason on why my first vote was a bad one fam

It's really obvious why it was bad. Persivul never said his vote was random and you assumed it was.
P-Edit: Yessssss I knew it
P-P-Edit: ew

thank you, honestly. I SAID IT WASN'T RANDOM. I said it wasn't random and he intentionally voted firebringer. I thought that the "just tradition" was either a. his tradition of voting FB in RVS that I didn't know of or b. a tradition of putting people to L-1

good fucking job confirming you didn't have an original opinion.

[SirCakez]

you haven't even given a reason on why my first vote was a bad one fam

It's really obvious why it was bad. Persivul never said his vote was random and you assumed it was.
P-Edit: Yessssss I knew it
P-P-Edit: ew

thank you, honestly. I SAID IT WASN'T RANDOM. I said it wasn't random and he intentionally voted firebringer. I thought that the "just tradition" was either a. his tradition of voting FB in RVS that I didn't know of or b. a tradition of putting people to L-1

good fucking job confirming you didn't have an original opinion.

VOTE: persivul
If it was a random vote why say "just tradition" while voting??

what