Mini 1776: Evolution Mafia (Game Over)

[Heat]

SC wagon seems like an overreaction tbh
I didn't think the vote was that bad. His "this is gonna be one of those games" comment tho is kinda nullscum to me cause it just reminds me of throwing hands up instead of explaining or talking to ppl

I'll keep an eye on him

[Heat]

^^^^
Eh, changed my mind. I crave too much attention to NOT sign my name.
- Max

i have never related to something as much as this

[Heat]

I chose Heat to RVS because there was a wagon going on him and I like wagons to get the game going in RVS.

Heat wagon was RVS though. I took Persivul's vote as trying to start a serious wagon on Flubber, then he pointed out it was still sarly game and there wouldn't be much good evidence, which I then agreed with and voted Flubber. Then people all got on my balls. That was my train of thought.
And the last time I played with Flubber and he actually tried he was scum so :/

i mean the hopping on wagons thing is fair because its something I do as well, but i don't understand why my wagon would give you any meaningful information considering the fact that I just wasn't even here

[Flubbernugget]

Should I flavorclaim? Like everyone else apparently has scientific roles and this is really bizarre so better to clear it up earlier then later.

I dont like this

[Flubbernugget]

I like anti's recent posts on eap. I would like to see their rebuttal.

I'm also interested in what reads Sircakez has

[SirCakez]

I chose Heat to RVS because there was a wagon going on him and I like wagons to get the game going in RVS.

Heat wagon was RVS though. I took Persivul's vote as trying to start a serious wagon on Flubber, then he pointed out it was still sarly game and there wouldn't be much good evidence, which I then agreed with and voted Flubber. Then people all got on my balls. That was my train of thought.
And the last time I played with Flubber and he actually tried he was scum so :/

i mean the hopping on wagons thing is fair because its something I do as well, but i don't understand why my wagon would give you any meaningful information considering the fact that I just wasn't even here

Seeing who joins, who's scared to wagon, etc. Better then just a completely random vote in terms of gathering info.

Should I flavorclaim? Like everyone else apparently has scientific roles and this is really bizarre so better to clear it up earlier then later.

I dont like this

Why?

[Flubbernugget]

The only way people can respond to that is if they use information from their own roles

[SirCakez]

Flavor info, yeah. Nothing actually action-related would have to be revealed. Like three people have already said they have scientific names anyways.

[Flubbernugget]

You say that like the flavor is insignificant

And if it's insignificant you wouldn't have to claim it!!

[SirCakez]

Rolewise it's insignificant, yeah. It's only relevant to comparing the different flavors of people.

[Flubbernugget]

But if it's not significant to there role...

....forget it

[Flubbernugget]

*their

[Specter Deflectors]

Hi this is EP. Will try to get a thoughtslist on everyone in the game out in a few hours.

[Specter Deflectors]

this is from a full reread of the game, not just ISOs

EAP: I like what EAP says about Cakez on the Heat wagon in 153. I will note that I also think that the EAP push on hellhound was misguided imo but can come from a town perspective definitely. But i will note that pushing someone who isn't posting a lot of content, i feel is mislynch logic. I do notice some other people along with IANV trying to push some low-activity people which makes no sense to me because why would effort indicate alignment unless it was some insanely real meta dichotomy if you catch my drift.

hiplop: I don't want to go into detail about why I thought/think hiplop was/is scum until i'm more confident in it. I do think that hiplop's strategy might work if we were a little more coordinated and had a little more time, but it's just not feasible.

Hellhound: Like I said before, I find little validity in what other people argue for hellhound being scum. I don't think that necessarily makes the people that push hellhound scum.

Heat: Heat's catchup failed to take a lot of good stances but I think he makes some good points.

SirCakez: I don't think the change in Flubber was particularly bad. When you consider it, it seems coming more from a town perspective than scum motivation. However, that being said, I do think that his response to the resulting pressure was bad.

lane: Looking back on it, lane's entrance was really bland. I originally liked the cakes push, the narrative that he was pushing was at least better than Shiro's but that doesn't really mean much to me anymore. The push on Apricity makes me HIGHLY uncomfortable. I dont know what to think about lane's observation on the EAP push on hellhound, I thought that was definitely something that merited lane's vote so it makes it weird that lane didn't vote.

Shiro: The early game was something that I felt needed a good response for me to ignore. did not deliver. I also dislike the SirCakez push.

Apricity: This townread on Apri is a meta read, and so I don't want to put too much stock in it. However, I will note that I felt there were a lot of things that pinged me in space invaders that came from Apri when Apri was conftown, meaning that behavior that I find scummy isn't actually very indicative. 382 - I don't necessarily agree with shiro admitting that the post looked scummy makes shiro scum, but i do think that others might come to that conclusion.

Iecerint: Miller claim, cool. I assume that was the mod clarification question

Flubbernugget: 174 seems weird to me no matter how I look at it. But his reaction to my push on him seemed legit. I do agree with Persivul in 248 and I think that Persivul is town for now, and Flubber is someone that I might consider. I agree with a lot of what Flubber says on page 14, so there is that.

Persivul: I don't think that Pers is particularly scum for pushing the Heat wagon, but I do think that there is some oddness to the way that the Heat wagon developed. I don't understand how Cakez tries to defend the Heat wagon as something that was legit, feels odd to me. I do think that the Flubberpush early on for the strategy discussion was bad, but genuine. Persivul's game later on sort of doesn't really strike me as particularly good.

zakk/shadow: Shadow keeps the interactions to a minimum, really only talking about firebringer. I personally the reluctance to interact with the playerlist as a whole possibly scummy, but then again, the activity level from this slot kind of skews that data.

Other than shiro, I would seriously consider hiplop and lane.
I would weakly consider Persivul and flubber for now.

-EP

[hiplop]

ep you're wrong and im not sure why you think im scum

[Edgar Allan Pro]

I like anti's recent posts on eap. I would like to see their rebuttal.

I'm also interested in what reads Sircakez has

You want me to rebut someone who has not made a case on me?

(Not varsoon here)


@Heat: Hey hot hot heeeeeat. Got any red hot scum reads this game? Or are you just from Ontario so your Heat is not even that hot.

P.S. @Specter: I mostly wanted to push lurkers some because I was not really feeling any of my reads too strongly yet. Varsoon seems sure abut Hell, but I really am not buying his case.

[Edgar Allan Pro]

While I am here:
@Spector some more: I also have some reason to not like Hiplop, not the least of which was that over reaction to an FoS.

[lane0168]

While I am here:
@Spector some more: I also have some reason to not like Hiplop, not the least of which was that over reaction to an FoS.

What over reaction?

[Hellhound]

VOTE: shiro

the vote is not to go back on hiplop

[Specter Deflectors]

Errant currently has more of a grasp on this game than me thanks to their catchup, so I'm going to let them choose if they want to change our vote or not.
But I support the Shiro wagon, moreso than the hiplop one. Don't really get the hiplop scumread, actually.
Shiro can you tell me more about what my posts remind you of? Are you talking, like.. Saga Frontier? I don't remember how much we interacted in that game, and it's the only recent game I think we were both in. Also after that post I would have expected you to vote us, not Cakez. The fact that you did makes me wonder if you did because there's actually support for that one.
- Max

[SirCakez]

Hiplop/Lane/Flubber/Shiro is my scum pool atm, in that order. Persivul has kind of disappeared which is weird.

[Heat]

at page 10

hellhound is town rn. frustration seems rly genuine/not forced. i like it. their shiro case also makes sense
Can't get a read on apricity. I'll ISO when i've caught up if i cant get a solid read then

[Heat]

granted I've only played one game with shiro, but this doesn't seem like her towngame
she was way more engaged and stuff in denmark mafia

[Heat]

Hiplop howd I miss that you were in this game?

Because he hasn't done anything...

games been open like 24 hours and ive done more than you

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[Heat]

not varsoon who r u bc the only person who calls me hot hot heat is nahdia im confused. also who chips me for being from ontario WHO ARE YOU

ok im done my catchup but i only roughly skimmed the last half bc fuck catchups i hate them

HH is town. Ice is probably town cause of the miller claim (altho i did claim miller one time offsite when i was scum that was a hoot).
Scumreads rn are Shiro, Cakez and Pers

Hiplop is also down low but i dont like how Cakez interacted with him, so hippy gets to be higher