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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:37 pm

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I need a computer to a see those. I will need to unpack. Response coming.
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:05 pm

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In post 597, beeboy wrote:I didn't make the connection between risky townie and risky scummy.
Not sure if it can be interpreted that way but Fire would have made no risks as scum in that situation.
I disagree with your assessment. It would be a risky play for a mafia to tunnel someone on day one and rally people to their side. If the lynch came to fruitition and it was indeed a townie then, naturally speaking, everyone would look the the train driver. Since very little was being put into the lynch on window except trying to hard, Fire would have to dance to clear his name and would thus ruin town credibility. A mafia would, or should, never risk putting themselves into a situation where such a gamble would have to come into play. This kind of gambling suggests town in nature because the obvious buddying of Shiro and Beeboy would linger and attention could be directed onto them, thus, being a powerful play for a townie while a position breaking play for a mafia. I may not change your mind about this, but this is how I see the situation.

In post 597, beeboy wrote:>.> I don't know that this has to do with anything >.>
Just because I didn't know you where teasing me doesn't mean you need to rub it in D=
You are right it was not relevent until Peri and Firebringer chose this to comment on. Fire actively defended me against it while Peri disapproved. If this was all anyone was drawing from the conversation it shows that this had the biggest impact therefore, more can be gained from his exchange rather then from all the other material. More answers lie there.

In post 597, beeboy wrote:Where did I do this?

Okay, another tab coming up.
You said it right here:
In post 572, beeboy wrote:If you are implying I am scum you should vote me (imo a scum claim if you legit reread day 1 I am obv town), also that would make your reads 0/2 which I guess is ok since mislynching is playing for your wincon.


In post 597, beeboy wrote:I wasn't making the connection but ok.
Why would they be unrelated? You have said multiple times I am scum. Why put this tad of theory crafting in here if you were not attempting to make a connection out of them. In fact it relates well to the post I quoted. Therefore, one has to assume you meant them to go together since they are stacked that way.

In post 597, beeboy wrote:I was teasing you, I don't need to appeal to scum's emotions.
So does saying it more time makes it true? Does appealing to emotion apply only to scum players? Does the effect only work on those opposite of you?



In post 598, beeboy wrote:That was easy.

Suzune votes plz.

While we are at it can Suzune explain her scum read on me?
This post is cocky. Since there is nothing damning there, I fail to see what it proved. You case on me is circumstantial you claim I am scum, because i am scum. Because I see the game state differently. Because I think something would have ruined a mafia. Therefore, I am scum because you disagree with my position.

On the other hand, for similar reasons, I think you are scum for overreaching. For reading posts and attempting to twist them in order to hammer a point. For making connections between mafia play and my play by suggesting, or not apparently, that they overlay. For pushing something with little evidence after I explained my point.

Well that is both cases in a nutshell.

I have not ever seriously debated with someone on mafiascum before should be fun. Ball is in your court.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:19 pm

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Beeboy and Suzune are town, not really hard to see.

Now let's wagon Kling please.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:21 pm

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Ya I am starting to think Suzune is just misunderstanding my posts :/
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:22 pm

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In post 601, Suzune wrote:I have not ever seriously debated with someone on mafiascum before should be fun. Ball is in your court.

But idk if I want to take this away from her D=
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:23 pm

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You're both misunderstanding each other's posts. Very common in a 1v1 argument where both recipients refuse to see reason. Tends to be no winner, and it leaves two losers.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:24 pm

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In post 602, Killthestory wrote:Now let's wagon Kling please.
I can ISO him.

Beeboy, last time I stpopped pushing someone for this reason, I lost the game for yielding. It did though occur to me that it was a fight between townies though since it was a double straw grasp.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:26 pm

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If you are using that as an excuse to continue to push me despite saying you think I am town I am taking back the statement where I think you where genuine.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:26 pm

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shut up stop fighting wagon Kling

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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:31 pm

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In post 607, beeboy wrote:If you are using that as an excuse to continue to push me despite saying you think I am town I am taking back the statement where I think you where genuine.
No it means I am going to keep an eye on you. I will stand down, but not fully yield townie status
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:35 pm

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In post 609, Suzune wrote:
In post 607, beeboy wrote:If you are using that as an excuse to continue to push me despite saying you think I am town I am taking back the statement where I think you where genuine.
No it means I am going to keep an eye on you. I will stand down, but not fully yield townie status

See when you say stuff like this I find it incredibly difficult to town read you.

Ima actually reread the game but like idk about Suzune still.


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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:41 pm

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I do not back down from something that I find interesting. Nothing personal.

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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:42 pm

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shut up.

find something actually scummy about someone
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:43 pm

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Suzune you are so lucky the last 2 times I tunneled someone exactly like this where they felt genuine but everything they where doing was scummy the person I was tunneling ended up being town.
Fun fact I also had exactly 1 person (town) ego post me to keep pushing, which is also similar here where pers made me feel better about this push.

But really suzune everything in my heart is telling me to push you right now it is just my mind that is holding me back.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:44 pm

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Well the 1 thing we are on the same page about is that we think the other one of us is scum :D
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:44 pm

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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:48 pm

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Kill no one wants your orders. You can scum hunt too.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:50 pm

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In post 616, Suzune wrote:Kill no one wants your orders. You can scum hunt too.

I've already found potential scum.
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:01 pm

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Fair then let's talk~
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:02 pm

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Kling. Talk less vote more
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:04 pm

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Talking gets to the root of the point and convinces others. Talk is important.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:08 pm

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If you want to pick on Kling for not really saying anything day one, then there is a case that can be made on that.
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:29 pm

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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:37 pm

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suzunne vs beeboy is boring me
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:37 pm

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Lmao at people calling me scum

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