Mini 1766: SCP Foundation Mafia (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:38 am

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In post 1240, Elsa and Anna wrote:
In post 1226, Klingoncelt wrote:VOTE: Elsa & Anna

I'm the Town Cop, you tards. :mad:


bullshit.

you lied about and retracted your shot claim, and targeted basically confirmed town who just happened to also be claimed ascetic and who just happened to also be obvtown by play and the obvious NK target.

if you managed to pull off that trifecta of scumlord play as town you deserve to be lynched.
and frankly at this point I'm happy lynching anyone who is trying to bring up scum RC paranoia.

like if you're town playing this bad i have absolutely zero regrets about lynching you here because your reads are shit and your play is shit and you're probably scum.


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Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:40 am

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In post 1244, Elsa and Anna wrote:Or she's just another weird JOAT who has a cop ability.
Other flip had an amnesiac watcher. Amnesiac cop isn't out of the question.
If you're town qutt being terrible.


Your convoluted misrepresentation of me isn't working.
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:42 am

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In post 1246, Elsa and Anna wrote:In fact

VOTE: Shos

Klingon at least is known for being an idiot when it comes to people voting her.
Shos is being absolutely horrible.

If klingon is scum, she had to somehow know the precise way one of of the mod PMs I recieved was written in.

Or an extremely unlikely lucky guess lol

Elsa, nobody touches klingon before you lynch me this game.


Like this feels fucking horrible.
Feels like scum with an ace up his sleeve.
If he has some crap to pull to fake confirm himself as town it would make sense why he'd want me out of the picture.

Like, amnesiac cop doesn't confirm anyone as town?
I hate how Shos correlates confirming the ability with confirming the alignment which is just scumlogic as fuck.
That 'lynch me first!' feels like scum posturing and shitty posturing is exactly what clued me into him in 1750.
I think it's just Shos/Klingon, yeah. And that 'lynch me first' thing makes sense especially if she's lying about the role; because her lynch would confirm them both.

Raskol should claim as well.


And you just raised the bar on convoluted tinfoil hat theories. :roll:
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:42 am

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In post 1248, A Real Scourge wrote:Rask, shouldn't you know the difference between a result of someone not performing a kill, and a no result from being blocked? you should at least ask the mod how your results work.

shos, stop saying you're confirmed. you're not, and Eagle said as much already. but it's fine to ask the replacement. :P

i don't know with Klingon. im fine with giving her one more day. if she manages to investigate another cop kill then we can look at her, but for now I'm too uncertain about it.
plus there's the thing with Rask, with shos still being scum, etc.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:44 am

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I'm V/LA until Monday due to the holiday.

You kids stay out of trouble until I return...
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:46 am

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VOTE: klingoncelt
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:01 am

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oh jesus fuck

whya re people being such dumbasses

{Raskol, E&A} are both terrible right now
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Rule # 5h05: players should not attempt to use or manipulate the mod for any purpose.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:04 am

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Shos what is your role exactly? Fruit vendor?
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:06 am

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I'm sorry, even looking back I'm not entirely certain.
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:18 am

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Yes. I'm a fruit vendor with especially good hearing.
In post 836, Lucky2u said:

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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:36 am

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Town!Shos wouldn't try to push himself as confirmed town for this fruit vendor thing.
Like frankly Shos isn't a very good town player but he wouldn't even be close to dumb enough to vote for me here.
I want to lynch Shos. I think at this point that he's probably white knighting Klingon to push for our lynch but I'm not 100%.

If this flips scum I think I want to arrange for certain people to visit me so that they're not around in LyLo.
Assuming Klingon is in fact town, which I'm not 100% on atm, our scumpool is relegated to
{ARS, Dream, Flubber, Rask}

Actually I think I want Klingon to visit me tonight. We lose the risk of mislynching her, and either I get confirmed town or scum fakes a guilty and I'm not about to lose that 1v1.
Of the two I think Flubber and Rask are disproportionately more likely to be the other scum, and I'm considering Rask scum here because Dream Man could potentially have lied.
Also because if scum had some sort of roleblocking ability why wouldn't they have used it on the claimed cop, which feels awful.
I didn't really like EE's approach to the Kelbris wagon and I haven't liked much of Flubber's content.

I'm going to reread that group and see what I get.
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:57 am

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Sigh
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:03 am

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@Davsto can scum make a night kill and perform another action if they have one in the same night?
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:04 am

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Raskol should claim at this point.
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:05 am

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I'm almost certain Dream man is telling the truth. If so, there has to be some explanation for why both me and ARS claim to have visited him yet he was notified of only 1 visit. This cannot be a scum plan because the pieces were setup before anyone knew I would out my visit. Here are the two possibilities from my pov.

A) ARS visited him, and is ninja so wasn't detected (scum)
B) I was roleblocked/prevented from visiting by scum. This points to klingon being scum because a mafia team with RB should target the cop over an unclaimed person, but this isn't 100% because it was suggested that watcher target klingon. If there is a RBer, it isn't ARS or klingon, probably not shos dream e/a either. This points to flubber who's unclaimed.

This is evident to the more observant of you: because I can't tell if my visit actually succeeded I'm not a role that gets a result. I am roleblocker.
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:07 am

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If Davsto confirms the answer to 1263 as a no then this game will become considerably easier to PoE.

I mean Shos probably made the night kill anyway but.
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:08 am

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I'm fairly confident the answer is a yes.
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:22 am

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Why did you roleblock dream man?
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:25 am

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Also I am a role cop. I can confirm ars and ras are not lying about their roles
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:29 am

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Anyways, it's incredibly likely either klingon or ARS is scum, but not both. In either case I think the partner is probably flubber with an very small chance of dream.
I have this written down

Cannot be partners
Shos - ARS
Shos - flubber (puppy visit interaction + 1118, didnt push cw to shos)
klingon - ARS (dream man/last night interaction)

Also I don't think its shos klingon either but this doesn't have strong evidence, but little things like them claiming to both visit ranger last night.

Possible partners are then
klingon : flubber, shos? (dream?)
ARS : flubber (dream?)
flubber : shos, ARS, klingon, dream?
shos : klingon? (dream maybe)
dream : shos, klingon, flubber, dream

But I don't think dream man or shos are scum, shos for most part owing to his partner opportunities being terrible.

Again, assuming it's between an ARS or klingon scumteam I see flubber as the probable partner to either and I'd actually in an ideal world lynch that but I don't people will actually vote it over klingon. Purely between klingon and ARS I'd rather lynch klingon because her reactions have been horrendous and she continues to exist with no results.

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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:31 am

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As far as I can tell rolecop claim is meaningless since it's incredibly easy to last-claim rolecop as scum and confirm the townies aren't lying.
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:37 am

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To reiterate, I refuse to lynch outside of {klingon, ARS, flubber} today.
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:48 am

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In post 1262, Elsa and Anna wrote:@Davsto can scum make a night kill and perform another action if they have one in the same night?
They can, providing their Role PM doesn't say otherwise.
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:10 am

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I recommend everyone unvotes E/A and shos.

If I haven't already explained E/A are town by role/d1kill and shos is town because he can't have partners.

From my pov the dream man result actually makes this game simple as it means scum almost certainly has partner 1 as either klingon or ARS and it ruled out a good amount of associations left. It also for complicated reasons makes me really sure dream man himself is town and flubbers the only man left, and he also happens to be available as partner to almost everyone but shos.

In this case I think you guys should either believe me and act accordingly or don't believe me which would mean lynching me and looking back on this tomorrow.
The only case in which it makes sense to ignore what I'm saying is if you think I'm telling the truth yet mistaken, in which case you should point out where what I'm saying is potentially wrong because I'm pretty confident in all of this and can back up specifics.

In other words your lynchpool should be {klingon, ARS, flubber, raskolnikov} because if you don't choose within the first three I'd rather be lynched myself than have Dream man E/A or shos chosen today.
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:55 am

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Rask, did you answer why you decided to roleblock Dream Man?
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