New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

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VOTE: SirCakez

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Here we go.

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Here I am.

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I'll see.

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Creature do something. Even Snarky is being more useful then you.
Slandaar is a stinky wagon.

If Slandaar is a stinky wagon, then what is a good wagon for you? Slandaar has only asked questions so far, but I didn't see him bothering to even answer his own questions. I don't mind pushing him, even if there's a Golden Robster voting him.

Also, why were you referencing Snarky?

I think some votes may force the issue.

VOTE: Creature

What about you? Do you have your own opinions? If your only post is an opportunistic vote, then there's something wrong with you.

Creature, wanna answer my question? Also, any thoughts on the game? Reads on Jam and Ness? Thoughts on their wagons?

Do you think there's something wrong with post #9? I had no intention behind that post. I am waiting the game go on a bit, I'll slowly take a look.

So far:
Ness - Typical panicking. Well, so far his behavior matches with his scum play, but I need to take a look at his town behavior and see what matches more.
Jam - Newbscum for me. I see hesitation on his initial posts to accuse someone, I also think he's pretending to be stupid. His vote on Golden seems sheepy (sheeping Snarky).

Jam

How much experience do you have in Mafia?

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Also combine that with the fact that I know Golden Robster (from my recently finished game I modded. that they were involved in) is more then capable of providing information to help town & being a town leader.

But he still could be a town-aligned player who isn't making much of an effort, right? That's the conclusion I've reached, at least.

Isn't that the same as saying someone could still be a town-aligned player who is being very scummy?

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Creature, you said "here we go" on Page 1. I was mostly trying to figure out if that had to do with anything specific or if it was the game starting in general. And if it was general, was it meant with excitement for the game starting or was it more of a concern for something that may have been coming.

Yeah, it was about the game starting in general. I wasn't that excited though.

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Creature, you said "here we go" on Page 1. I was mostly trying to figure out if that had to do with anything specific or if it was the game starting in general. And if it was general, was it meant with excitement for the game starting or was it more of a concern for something that may have been coming.

Yeah, it was about the game starting in general. I wasn't that excited though.

Hello Creature.

but I didn't see him bothering to even answer his own questions.

Why would I do that?

I mean that you could share what do you think rather than asking some of the questions.

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Yes, I am. Although, I am more active in this forums (for some reason).

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Here I am.

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Like the way Kop's only post is a sheepy vote. Hope this prod makes him speak more.

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tbh I feel jam's being fence-sitty.

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I mean that you could share what do you think rather than asking some of the questions.

My priority is to find scum not to let you know what I think. To find scum I shall ask questions. Why didn't you ask me my opinion(s) if you find the opinion(s) I chose not to post important?

Seems fair, but I think you could've commented on some things you find strange.

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What about his claiming?

He claimed something? I didn't see jam claiming anywhere.

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A bit.

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That was Ilikebugs who claimed.

Well, he had no reason to claim, so I can't get a read from it.

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If pisskop asked you to jump off a cliff. Would you do it?

In-game or real life?

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.-.

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Creature, how many games have you played? Do you prefer being town or scum? Does being scum make you feel more nervous or confident (or if you've never been scum, which do you think would be true?.

In this site I completed one game and am playing this and 3 others.
I prefer being town because when I am lynched my play will be accepted next game.
Depends, I start nervous, go confident a little then nervous again, but it doesn't differ too much from my town play.

Also, pretty sure the size of the posts is not alignment indicative.

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Starting to feel bad vibes from Creature, why are you ignoring Egg's question?

The only reason you're scum reading me is because I didn't answer his question soon?

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VOTE: Drixx

Two stones, one scum

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VOTE: Drixx

Two stones, one scum

Oh hey look. He gets called scum by SirCakez and takes the opportunity to jump on an easy wagon. No correlation though, amirite?

Since when I am forbidden from scum reading you?

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If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.

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Because I wasn't restricted or anything as I see.

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If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.

I've never played with Irao or Jam, and you are pinging me constantly so yea those are my scumreads.

VOTE: SirCakez

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Heh

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SirCakez is definitely scum.

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(watches scum pushing an easy mislynch)

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Pretty sure SirCakez is playing like he did when he was scum.

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Defend myself from what? I don't think anyone pointed out exactly what's wrong with me besides little scum hunting.

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GuyFawkes is completely ignoring this situation, he deserves to have an eye on him too.

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VOTE: Drixx

Two stones, one scum

Why do you think Drixx is scum?

What do you think the "Two stones, one scum" means?

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Kop's and KAAG's votes look opportunistic.

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SirCakez

If you were so sure I am scum, why didn't you vote me or anything? You're being very hesitanty too.

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Egg

I want to know what's wrong with post #9.

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Scum reads: SirCakez, GuyFawkes, Kop, KAAG and Drixx.

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SirCakez's scum play, I see no difference.

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^ Mean't to put ISO

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Just look at how many players were voting quick repeating stupid statements, and look how many players disappeared after placing their vote, anyone doubt this is a scum-driven wagon?

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What do you think the "Two stones, one scum" means?

I have no clue.

Two scummy players, one scum slot.

I didn't see Mafiaturtle doing anything besides quick jumping on wagons and commenting about Ness' V/LA.
While Drixx has been pretending to claim survivor, commenting on how awkward it'd be if he was mislynched and talking about meta.

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You have no opinion on SirCakez at all?

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KAAG

Spoiler:

There was nothing opportunistic about my vote Creature.

I felt you were at first.

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Creature, how many games have you played? Do you prefer being town or scum? Does being scum make you feel more nervous or confident (or if you've never been scum, which do you think would be true?.

Creature. Creature. Hey Creature. Yeah, you

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You dodged that question, not once but twice.

The first time he asked I decided to answer later, because I didn't see how much it'd help (looks like a RQS question for me). The second time he asked I didn't notice, maybe this is why it caused the third. And at the third time I didn't understand what Egg mean't at all (because of the second).

Starting to feel bad vibes from Creature, why are you ignoring Egg's question?

The only reason you're scum reading me is because I didn't answer his question soon?

I said I got bad vibes, did I say I was scum-reading you? Vote was for motivation.

What did you mean by bad vibes? For me it's the same as slight scum reading.

VOTE: Drixx

Two stones, one scum

Yeah...I know you've clarified this, but...LOLWUT??!?!?

I am just going to be honest, I wanted to see how everyone would interpret it, not sure why, but maybe I could get something.

If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.

I've never played with Irao or Jam, and you are pinging me constantly so yea those are my scumreads.

VOTE: SirCakez

You were so sure on Drixx that your vote lasted a full 23 minutes. And you are calling OTHERS opportunistic?

I felt the need to vote SirCakez, his scum list seemed sheepy (seeing he has only accused who he noticed that were poor at defending).

If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.

Are you an easy mislynch target? If yes, is that someone other than your own fault?

My fault, but I am pretty sure my intentions were aiming to get me a better idea on everybody else. Just wondering, how do you work with less experienced players?

Scum reads: SirCakez, GuyFawkes, Kop, KAAG and Drixx.

Yeah...no. GuyFawkes/Kop have little content, KAAG wasn't opportunistic, Drixx didn't claim survivor. Only SirCakez is even vaguely credible.

GuyFawkes is avoiding the me vs SirCakez. Kop's vote was pretty opportunistic.

Got any town-reads for us?

S_S, Killthestory and Egg are my clear town reads.
Maybe I have a town feeling on Jam, Iraon, Slaandar and Ilikebugs.
I was town reading Fragger earlier, but he's quickly changing.
You convinced me to change my view on you, but I'd like you to answer me.

tbh I can answer better if you ask: "What's your opinion on X?"

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Fair enough. Thanks for clearing that up.

Who's your top scumread right now, Egg?

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Creature, I think post 9 has been covered enough, but let me summarize. You admitted some nervousness about being scum. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that maybe it was an excitement thing, but you confirmed that it wasn't before you knew why I was asking. Your Role PM was fresh in your mind and we were just starting out so I think you may have recieved a scum PM and some of your nervousness came out. I know it doesn't sound like much, but I can't even count the number of times it's turned out to be accurate. Specifically off the top of my head, I remember catching Reck and cooldog with that tell when they were new. If I were to go back through my games, I bet I could find it a bunch more times. Others have covered things I think you've done that are scummy as well. For example, the hypocracy around people voting "easy" targets, whatever that phrase even means anymore these days. Oh, and just to clarify, there was nothing RQS about my questioning. I was working around my theory to see if it had any merit or not. I don't RQS.

I'll just admit: I feel the same nervousness when I am town too. I have difficulty to make a good post initially and I don't accept being mislynched D1. If you want to lynch me, at least you'll learn this is my typical town play. Take my reads seriously, they're not detailed as you would expect, but it's already an idea.

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I regret replacing out.