New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[jam]

Hello. How's it going, all?

NOW DIE SCUM

[jam]

Hmmm... bitter Red Sox fans, maybe?

[jam]

Pisskop/NotMafia/jam, why no vote in your first posts?

Creature, what was the reason for making post 9?

Jam wagon is meh.

Vote Creature

Why would you vote in your first post without seeing anything scummy?

let's get this straight

this jam wagon sucks

we need to bandwagon boonskiies

because he is most definitely scum here

Upon what metric does the jam wagon suck?

I don't think Boonskiies has done anything alignment indicative so far, and the jam wagon has FIVE TIMES the number of voters.

I don't know what I've done that's alignment-indicative. If you see something, point it out. To me, scum is most likely to be everyone who hasn't posted yet.

[jam]

okay that post was bad

jam are you new?

Yes. Why?

[jam]

Why would you vote in your first post without seeing anything scummy?

Are you aware of how RVS works?

I actually don't. Could someone explain?

[jam]

Why would you vote in your first post without seeing anything scummy?

Oh. You're new. Rate your excitement level for this game on a scale of 1 to 10 at the following times:
1. when you signed up
2. when the game filled
3. when you confirmed your role to the mod
4. when you made your first post
5. now.

Kickandgiggle, what do you think about jam and the wagon on him?

Somethingsmart, what is your read on jam?

8 is the answer to questions 1-5.

Could someone please tell me what RVS is?

Scum not thinking they've done anything wrong, yet still getting scum read and frustrated/confused/insecure. Insecure scum most likely.

I posted something harmless, but people are voting for me without a real argument. I defend myself because I am the only person that I know 100% is town. Is there something wrong in my line of thinking?

Right now I am somewhat scumreading ness simply because look at posts 90 and 94, where he clearly says day 1 has no merit, and now he seems to be changing his stance when a few votes are on him.

[jam]

@GR why do you think Slandaar is scum?

[jam]

VOTE: Golden Robster

[jam]

Jam, what is your read on Ness?

I scumread Ness, as mentioned before. Aside from his first 2, every one of his posts have been in defense of himself, quoting others, arguing. Seems over the top to me.

Creature do something. Even Snarky is being more useful then you.
Slandaar is a stinky wagon.

If Slandaar is a stinky wagon, then what is a good wagon for you? Slandaar has only asked questions so far, but I didn't see him bothering to even answer his own questions. I don't mind pushing him, even if there's a Golden Robster voting him.

Also, why were you referencing Snarky?

I think some votes may force the issue.

VOTE: Creature

What about you? Do you have your own opinions? If your only post is an opportunistic vote, then there's something wrong with you.

Creature, wanna answer my question? Also, any thoughts on the game? Reads on Jam and Ness? Thoughts on their wagons?

Do you think there's something wrong with post #9? I had no intention behind that post. I am waiting the game go on a bit, I'll slowly take a look.

So far:
Ness - Typical panicking. Well, so far his behavior matches with his scum play, but I need to take a look at his town behavior and see what matches more.
Jam - Newbscum for me. I see hesitation on his initial posts to accuse someone, I also think he's pretending to be stupid. His vote on Golden seems sheepy (sheeping Snarky).

Jam

How much experience do you have in Mafia?

I used to play quite a bit of f2f mafia a few years ago, but that is completely different from forum-based, not even the same game really. Online, I have played 2 games before on another site.
I will take the pretending to be stupid comment as an insult, but don't really care much. Also, provide some specific examples instead of being vague. You think I sheeped snarky after literally all he posted was "fuck it lets vote"? My vote wasn't serious regardless.

Now, rereading GR and Slandaar, it seems to me that GR by voting Slandaar and telling others to vote him, he was trying to get Slandaar to post more and react a bit. It seems justified and it worked, I guess. I am currently null on GR and slight scum on Slandaar, but he hasn't really been posting.

So, VOTE: ness.

[jam]

So I read irao's ISO. One particular post is interesting to me, which has been mentioned by fragger, yet not really been answered when irao replied to fragger (315)

Hey, Mafiaturtle. How are you going to Pressure jam if you aren't voting him?

How can you possibly say this when

you weren't voting me either

?

[jam]

So I read irao's ISO. One particular post is interesting to me, which has been mentioned by fragger, yet not really been answered when irao replied to fragger (315)

Hey, Mafiaturtle. How are you going to Pressure jam if you aren't voting him?

How can you possibly say this when

you weren't voting me either

?

Its an extension of:

I found the reasoning behind Mafiaturtle's vote odd, who explicitly states that they are trying to pressure someone? Doesn't that defeat its purpose, if its purpose was to learn something about jam? So I wished to continue this train of thought, but Mafiaturtle seems to be outright ignoring me, how rude!

I hope your mind is now clear.

That makes sense, realizing that he was questioning his line of thinking. And I don't think mafiaturtle replied, either: come out from your shell, mafiaturtle of 4 posts.

Some reads: KAAG seems towny to me and seems to be actively scumhunting, so I'm townreading him. Egg is also questioning a lot and I'm leaning town there too.

Where's Reubus?

[jam]

The thing about Creature for me is that all he's been doing is alternating between fluff and defending himself. No scumhunting dome, as mentioned by SS. I'm still scumreading Reubus, at least until he starts posting, but will switch for now to VOTE: Creature

For the record, I am slight town on Frag and pretty much null on irao.

[jam]

Also, not a big deal but VC is slightly incorrect. There were 4 people on Reubus, not 5.

[jam]

Well, not really, but even if, so what? His reasoning makes a lot of sense to me.

[jam]

Fair enough. Thanks for clearing that up.

Who's your top scumread right now, Egg?

[jam]

(watches scum pushing an easy mislynch)

You can say that about any wagon. Defend yourself.

[jam]

VOTE: Reubus

I previously changed my vote from Reubus to Creature because I wanted to see how Reubus would go about things. Nothing he has done has changed my opinion on that slot.

@Frag: [post.][/post.] without the dots.

[jam]

I don't think Reubus has read the thread. Being scum and having a wagon on you is that demotivating?

[jam]

prod received. Will catch up.

[jam]

Another option could be to wait and see if Reubus possibly gets replaced. We have 3 days.

[jam]

VOTE: Firebringer

Mostly Creature, and it doesn't help that Firebringer has seemed to attempt to draw attention away from himself by posting a lot of fluff.

[jam]

Also, could anyone point me to some specific scummy posts/statements by Fragger?

[jam]

I really don't like some of Frag's posts here.

[jam]

VOTE: Guy Fawkes

I did read his ISO. Garbage. Scum.

[jam]

Prod dodge. For the record, I think DGB is town as well. I also noticed KAAG contradicting himself, which could be sloppy or could be scum.