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Post Post #16 (isolation #0) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:39 am

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Ninja will Destroy best Tracker :D
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Post Post #142 (isolation #1) » Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:46 am

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How would I resolve cross roleblocking and also self-targeting roleblocking?
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Post Post #179 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:12 pm

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I like hider. Even if you have to end up adding the weak part of it.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #3) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:24 am

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Is it standard to not inform BPs of the use of their vest/kill attempt upon them?
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Post Post #215 (isolation #4) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:31 pm

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In post 211, mastin2 wrote:
In post 200, Ether wrote:I've never heard of limited-shot bulletproofs being notified. There's debate?
Yes. More or less:
An x-shot vig is informed how many shots they have left.
An x-shot commuter is informed of how many shots they have left.
An x-shot hider is informed of how many shots they have left.
An x-shot doctor is informed of how many shots they have left.
An x-shot cop is informed of how many shots they have left.

And so on and so forth, so the argument goes why wouldn't an x-shot bulletproof be informed of how many shots they have left when literally every other X-shot role does.

those are all active powers though. assuming you dont actively use your xshot vest they dont compare. The information is of a different caliber.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #5) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:35 pm

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??? Why?


We have all these weird variants of tracker/watcher and cop.

Presumably adding the potential for a godfather is specifially a anti-cop strategy.
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Post Post #275 (isolation #6) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:25 am

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Thats not what they said.

Like daytalk, the preence of framers/godfather/etal would have to be announced before hand.

So it would be known they were present but not what any other roles were or if they were the even a whole role.
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Post Post #280 (isolation #7) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:15 am

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There are so many weakened variation of both watcher/tracker and cop that this is kind of asking modders to stop using cop.

Others have said that cop is generally an OP/unnesscessary role and I agree, but killing its hard counter to make it stronger is counterintuitive.
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Post Post #285 (isolation #8) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:00 pm

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too much work for normals?


part of being normal is simplicity and knowing exactly what is and isnt normal. splitting cop alignments messes with that
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Post Post #290 (isolation #9) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:58 am

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thats better served as a gunsmith or other nonalignment cop. Or if the scum can use active powers to alter the result. As nonnormal
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Post Post #292 (isolation #10) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:05 am

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Gunsmiths or vanilla cops or others that recieve non-alignment results.

Or for cops in games wherein scum can use active powers to alter the results. 'framers' or 'painters'
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Post Post #295 (isolation #11) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:19 am

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In post 293, Ether wrote:Right. What about them?

no wai

. . .

If youre going to give results to an invesitgator through a cipher or other code then it shouldnt be a cop unless the scum can fiddle with the results through active powers.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #12) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:25 am

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Im expressing my opinion on the matter
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Post Post #302 (isolation #13) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:18 am

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They mentioned that they wanted people to play differently if a godfather was present, but instead too often dont and they lose because of a godfather.

Thats never happened in games Im in, but I would imagine that besides being less popular the miller isnt 'an autoloss' situation. Millers should claim at onset, so most millers dont get a chance to suprise guilty. And even then the mislynch isnt quite the same as failing to lynch and otherwise scummy player.


As stated above, Ive always seen a lot of people speccing about a godfather, even if one doesnt exist, so Im not sure where they are seeing godfather skating by.
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