Mini 1784: Mafia Z – Game Over

[SirCakez]

VOTE: chilledtea
Quality wagon already made.

[SirCakez]

I'm still laughing
VOTE: Untrod Tripod

[SirCakez]

Where did I push "Titus is always scum" though? My only post day 1 was my vote p sure.

[SirCakez]

I just wanted to join the RVS wagon :/

[SirCakez]

Fate wtf
UT obviously isn't WW, he's getting voted for high likelihood of chilledtea's buddy.

[SirCakez]

Titus what the hell are you doing

[SirCakez]

That's Flubber and he townslipped (may be pretend, but unlikely) unless he's really uninvolved.

wait not flubber but Xsadfgdsz or something

the townslip comment is still true

Where was this townslip?

[SirCakez]

sircakez:

Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip

READ PLS

I don't understand how you can vote for UT and still push this

But yes I got the itlepip and chilledtea slots backwards

If the DV hydra is scum and X isn't trying too hard, Flub mistook his teammate for the person who either was hammered by or hammered his teammate.

also disregard yessiree's post for now, we haven't had the chance to sync up and drill shitty stances out of one another's heads

I could see scum messing this up too, wouldn't call this a townslip tbh
Kill what in the hell are you doing

[SirCakez]

I'm pretty sure this game isn't bastard so he's not a Jester.
Kill do you have a post restriction?

[SirCakez]

You don't have a flavor name a la Bob Joe or something like that?

[SirCakez]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Killthestory
I believe it tentatively.

[SirCakez]

Wait yeah GF doesn't give no result

The fuck?

[SirCakez]

Could be like jungle republic, except mafia has the kill instead of werewolves?

[SirCakez]

Can we get this KTS wagon going pls?
UT is probably town for now.

[SirCakez]

Ya unless a town investigative flips or CCs somewhere he's probably town

[SirCakez]

You always want a Titus lynch though

[SirCakez]

Don't think DV is scum
KTS still is scum
Zefiend might also be

[SirCakez]

When he still hasn't done anything to scumhunt despite dropping his weird gimmick.

[SirCakez]

pretty sure cakez is still scum

im pretty well versed with his scum game and hes versed with mine. this clearly isnt my scumgame

Your posting is terrible though. This isn't your town game, you'd be making pushes if it was.
This game really needs a flip.

[SirCakez]

OK a new flip UT

[SirCakez]

The game has gone a little more then a page in three days so yeah I want this lynch, especially since KTS's play so far has consisted of memeing for most of the game and then "Cakez is scum for not knowing I'm town here" which is awful.

[SirCakez]

p sure ziefiend or whoever the fuck is mafia. Makes sense with the associative tells.

Sort of want to say that the WW scumpile is Cakez or YB hydra

I'm okay with a KTS wagon. we're far enough ahead that we can afford a PL

dude don't even get me started you don't even know how your role works LOL

also cake is pretty much scum

pretty sure cakez is still scum

im pretty well versed with his scum game and hes versed with mine. this clearly isnt my scumgame

told you to sheep me to victory

VOTE: SirCakez

lol

[SirCakez]

So what is your super secret sole ultimate reason?

[SirCakez]

s c u m c o u n t e r w a g o n
It was impossible to build a KTS wagon but this comes together in an hour and a half? No way.

[SirCakez]

that's depressing

[SirCakez]

When he still hasn't done anything to scumhunt despite dropping his weird gimmick.

No it was based on this ^

[SirCakez]

I mean. he's done a *little*

can't help but notice all you're doing is talking about how hard it is to lynch KTS even though there's an L-1 wagon on you

nevermind the fact that neither scum faction would have more than one member alive so that's a preeeeeeeeeetty meaningless observation at this point in the game

I did comment on my wagon. RC just wants to PL me, Kill is probably scum, you and yessiree are ???

And not necessarily.

[SirCakez]

I never wanted a PL on you, I only wanted to start lynching you when you didn't start doing anything after you dropped your trolling. And yeah my play's been passive but so has everyone else's. The game is very very slow.

[SirCakez]

Because I figured you would actually start doing something after you stopped shitting around

[SirCakez]

Those were theories as to why you were doing it
And I did call you out

[SirCakez]

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[SirCakez]

No one gave intent but I'll claim
Melanie Castro, VT

[SirCakez]

maybe if you weren't scum aligned regardless of alignment people would have an incentive to keep you alive.

Because of this

[SirCakez]

Maybe I should ISO dive you, then. If you weren't opposed to a KTS PL, are you saying RC's PL on you has no merit?

I didn't want a KTS PL, I've said this before. So yes I think PLs are shitty ideas.

[SirCakez]

I feel like yessirree Bob might be scum though. The sheeping of both wagons without other contributions looks awful.

[SirCakez]

There is lots to say!
And no.

[SirCakez]

I was thinking about 6v3v1 actually.
5v3v2 is unlikely.

[SirCakez]

It would just be a renamed SK essentially Zefiend.
Dystopian - we can lynch scum every day and still lose in 6v2v2 so that's not a good argument.

[SirCakez]

I like how KTS has just stopped posting once again when the wagon went away.

[SirCakez]

Why is it impossible to get votes for KTS?
If this keeps not going anywhere I'm gonna try someone else, probably Zefiend or Bob.

[SirCakez]

I don't want to die pointlessly though

[SirCakez]

SirCakez, can you tell me why you keep sticking me as scum? You do realize I've had ample time to casually hammer you, right?

Because you're coasting. You've made little to no impact on the game with your posts.

I think the discussion on cakes started with yessiree saying that if UT really was blocked, the RB was probably on his wagon since they'd believe they blocked the kill, and that sircakez was most likely to be this RB

I mostly agreed, but added that it is quite likely that the roleblocker is a town jk/rb since town hardly has a majority (we'd discussed numbers just before that)

we also agreed that cakes was shifty in general

So your scumread on me is based on you thinking the possible rber was on the chilledtea wagon and that I'm shifty in general? You have to unpack that more.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: zefiend
RC vote was terrible. Claiming he generated reads and discussion earlier is also terrible.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: zefiend
RC vote was terrible. Claiming he generated reads and discussion earlier is also terrible.

That doesn't make it untrue.

Nobody would have batted an eye if Fate or I hammered you. But we didn't, and I believe for similar reasons (since I'm town reading Fate atm). There are other places to poke around before the Day ends.

That's fine to poke around but your vote was pretty clearly a sheep.

[SirCakez]

You weren't pushing RC at all until your vote after the two others though.

[SirCakez]

I don't understand how that matters. I'm an easy lynch, moving off me isn't a big deal since you could come back later easily.

[SirCakez]

I know Kill, its ok.

[SirCakez]

You're saying the fact you didn't lolhammer me should be giving me a townread on you? That's stinks.

[SirCakez]

No you could have done that as scum. I'm saying you chose not to so you could save me for future lynching, essentially.

[SirCakez]

Who the hell claimed Seer?

[SirCakez]

I believe that then. Doubting Titus's claim now.
Three Investigative seems like a lot for a 10p game so pretty sure UT, RC and DV aren't all town.

[SirCakez]

If RC is fakeclaiming and DV flips town I will strangle him dw
Currently debating whether to hammer or not

[SirCakez]

I'm still up for the zefiend wagon but the game has gone stale on the DV wagon
I don't feel very confident hammering them right now

[SirCakez]

Why would we nolynch? There's probably only one scum left.

[SirCakez]

I already gave my role yesterday, I'm a VT.

[SirCakez]

What the hell is hypoing?

[SirCakez]

The flavor for UT says he was shot though

[SirCakez]

Being on the chilled wagon is pretty meaningless, scum RVS buddies all the time. Bob trying to use that as a defense is terrible.

[SirCakez]

I think they're meming? Fate does this "caps lock and yell at people" thing occasionally.

[SirCakez]

Yeah I'm want to get rid of yessirree, just don't want inevitable quick hammer from RC.

[SirCakez]

OK!
VOTE: yessirree bob

[SirCakez]

posts

[SirCakez]

Yessirree have you even claimed yet?

[SirCakez]

Lol to the surprise of no one there's the quickhammer

[SirCakez]

So KTS is scum like I've been saying all along, what a surprise!

[SirCakez]

Scum wouldn't choose not to nightkill here, because the lack of night kill gave us another lynch. So the jailkeeping of KTS + lack of nightkill makes Kill being the last scum a no-brainer to me.

[SirCakez]

Zefiend you need to claim everything since you're apparently a third-party.

[SirCakez]

Where the hell did the votestealer theory come from?

[SirCakez]

Intent to hammer Zefiend
Claim or die

[SirCakez]

You're going to quickhammer him if I vote him, I'm not stupid

[SirCakez]

You quickhammered yesirree soooo

[SirCakez]

This does not feel like a game that would have post restrictions.

[SirCakez]

This sounds like a crock of bull to me
If he isn't bullshitting though, then it has to be Fate I guess.

[SirCakez]

Not hammering anything
I'm thinking

[SirCakez]

Fate have you even claimed? You should.

[SirCakez]

Zefiend is basically claiming Third Party Jailkeeper that wins with town, has a post restriction not to talk about their claim, and is told in the middle of the day they were attacked.

What the fuck?

[SirCakez]

If you think he doesn't win with town then why don't you want to lynch him?

[SirCakez]

*crickets*

[SirCakez]

I believe we lynch KTS.

Zefiend can take his pick between Cakez and Fate who he wants to jailkeep.

If there's a kill, we lynch the other tomorrow.
If there's not, we lynch the one jailed.

BOth of us win if my interpretation of his wincon is correct.

I think this is correct
If there's a scum flip then shouldn't we lynch Zefiend instead though?

[SirCakez]

All right then
Intent to hammer KTS
Claim

[SirCakez]

Oh Kill isn't at L-1 gg
Now I'm kind of wary of zefiend being scum with Fate or some shit

[SirCakez]

You said you were third-party though <.<

[SirCakez]

You are correct in saying that the "Alien" role is not necessarily town aligned.

I am correct in saying that my win condition does not conflict with the town's win condition.

Are you starting to pick up what I'm putting down?

RC is clear

KTS is clear

I am obvious to anyone reading the game and sided with the town. I also got targeted for the NK last night, which fucked my strategy.

I've handed the win to town on a silver platter. If you wanna misslynch me and throw that away, be my guest.

VOTE: Fate

This will be my last post toDay.

VOTE: Unvote

We are not lynching KTS. We are lynching one of Fate or SC today, and the other tomorrow.

I now know with 100% certainty that I was the attempted night kill. The mafia must have thought that I interfere with their win condition. Bad for me cuz I got shot, but good for the town as a whole if you choose to believe me.

It actually is an auto-win for town as long as you don't waste a misslynch on me. KTS is clear, and RC is clear.

And stop asking me to fucking claim. If any of you could read between the lines you'd realize why I haven't claimed. I've been crumbling everywhere though, as early as D2.

[SirCakez]

It's very very heavily implied though

[SirCakez]

I'm not hammering, paranoia has set in.

[SirCakez]

@zakk is this game bastard?

[SirCakez]

Well that works I guess

[SirCakez]

So then it's Fate gg
Waiting to vote until after everyone checks in

[SirCakez]

What a surprising push.....not.
I assume he was bright lighted since I wasn't, curious he didn't mention it.

[SirCakez]

If I was scum RC would have been dead night 1, not itle lol

[SirCakez]

Spoiler:

[SirCakez]

Shush scum I'm still waiting on RC and zefiend.

[SirCakez]

The only thing I'm worried about is if zefiend might be scum instead of Fate. But Fate's responses today have just been focused on me and completely disregarding zefiend which implies he knows Zefiend is legit.
Would like to hear from RC

[SirCakez]

Because the way the wagon moved from Kill to me so quickly looked coordinated, but that's obviously out the window now.

[SirCakez]

Ehhh I think Fate being scum is more likely then zefiend. I don't see mafia having a "bright light" power and the last scum is mafia from the chilled flip.
VOTE: Fate

RC has the hammer

[SirCakez]

That Alien role is insane wtf