Open 633: Near Vanilla-GAME OVER

[Killthestory]

man CoM should die just for the sake of being annoying

[ChurchOfMercy]

That's going to fly so well tomorrow. Just smooth sailing man, from point A to point B bro.

Albert

[Jim]

Your reaction being to vote someone who has not even showed up. The second, is that when you voted this slot you ignored the other slot that had yet to post altogether. The third, is that there has been no push whatsoever on me, yet you are stating there was some resistance to it? How can there be resistance to a non-existent push?

It's pretty clear you have no experience playing with your predecessor KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I, on the other hand, have been in some games with him.

Kling

Didn't seem like you had that much of an issue with him until I brought it up. Also, way to avoid answering literally every question in the quote.

[ChurchOfMercy]

they always want the v neck to be deeper

[Killthestory]

dude 10/10 plays, telling us how much we suck as you're about to be lynched

whoa you're so good

[ChurchOfMercy]

Thanks lol. Even though you are trying to be sarcastic, I feel good right now, so I must really be good.

Albert

[ChurchOfMercy]

People say I come off as angry. I am going to respond to negativity and discontent with warmth and funnies. See how you like that, you lovely friends.

Albert

[Killthestory]

warmth and funnies is a scumtell

[acryon]

What do you know of Klingon? I'd like your thoughts on the whole "Kain is scum for not showing up but low engagement is not a scum-tell" thing. Because that causes my alarm klaxons to go ringing big-time. Am I overthinking?

Here, let me help you with that:

Low-volume means volume, just not a lot of it. Some players actually make just one or two short posts per day on this site. The posts generally contain some content.

This is opposed to a flake, someone that completely ignores the game.

How can you not see that the flake is clearly scummier than the low-volume?

Except that a flake is blatant with no hope of not being exposed whereas a low-volume can try to skirt by.

[acryon]

Also, it appears that Kain actually siteflaked.

[MagnaofIllusion]

371 is a nice feature that I think got added during my long haitus. Thanks, I’ll use it!

VOTE: Jim

man CoM should die just for the sake of being annoying

Cool story bro! Or are just waiting to hammer if he’s put back at L-1?

Here, let me help you with that:

Low-volume means volume, just not a lot of it. Some players actually make just one or two short posts per day on this site. The posts generally contain some content.

This is opposed to a flake, someone that completely ignores the game.

How can you not see that the flake is clearly scummier than the low-volume?

Let me help you then – you haven’t established in any degree that flaking from a game before making a single post is in any way related to alignment. End of story. So no matter what else you want to say on the matter until you can provide copious links to this site where repeatedly and consistently someone flaking without making a single game post is indicative of a scum role PM I’m not going to buy your vote makes any Town perspective sense.

Long Story Short – Voting for a player without a single post to judge for content as opposed to a player you call scum for in-game posting without any logical base to do so is scumtastic.

Newer scum players sometimes have issues immersing themselves in a game. Given that RVS is predominately injokes and sarcasm, that's often viewed as the best way to get into a game. The vote's not the cause for it, the immersion is.

Meh. RVS is whatever you make of it in my mind. But you point I can see from an experienced perspective. Care to share your main?

[Jim]

That ruins the point of an alt, so no. I have played for a while.

[acryon]

@Mod: V/LA until Monday morning CST.

[kelbris]

vote count 1.05

Bellaphant (0): none
Severa (0): none
Jim (1): killthestory
jmo16mla (1): Ollie
MagnaofIllusion (0): none
Imperium (0): none
Killthestory (0): none
ChurchOfMercy (hydra, Klingoncelt and Albert B Rampage) (6) [L-2]: Oceanwind, Lowell, Imperium, Bellaphant, MagnaofIllusion, Severa,
Lowell (1): jmo16mla
Nosferatu (1): acryon
acryon (0): none
OceanWind (1): KTthecreeper
KTthecreeper (1): ChurchofMercy
Ollie (1): Nosferatu
With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch.
day 1 has begun, it will end in (expired on 2016-04-16 19:01:46)

[KTthecreeper]

Oh I never unvoted my RVS vote lol

UNVOTE: Ocean[/unvote

[KTthecreeper]

Oh I never unvoted my RVS vote lol

UNVOTE: Ocean[/unvote

UNVOTE: Ocean

[KTthecreeper]

UNVOTE: Ocean

there

[MagnaofIllusion]

Hopefully this is followed with the reads list you promised you'd be making ...

[acryon]

Hello sorry I haven't been on in the past few days, some things popped up

So I'm going to read the thread a few times and make a read list on my thought so far

What happened to this?

[jmo16mla]

Catching up today.

[Killthestory]

Still happy with my vote

[Jim]

I would like to end the day shortly after KT gives us his reads list.

[OceanWind]

If you thought I was scum with Ocean in this case, I'd think you'd go for Ocean first here, since he was who you were talking to first. But you diverged from your 1v1 with him to start this interaction here.

You lost me here. What's scummy about "diverging" from his conversation with me to vote you? This reads almost as if you want me and Acryon to continue arguing with each other as opposed to with you. If he thought you and I were mafia together, why do you think he should continue pushing me as opposed to you? Just because he was already talking to me? If so, at what point would you expect him to go after you if he thought you were mafia too?

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You're pretty clearly equating post count with townieness, and that says that you're either Scum trying to make a phony case on me, or that you don't know the difference between a low-volume poster and a lurker.

If someone doesn't post at all (KainTepes, SeshatX), it doesn't say anything about their alignment. They seem to have flaked from the site and have been replaced. If someone is posting the bare minimum needed to skate through the game while staying under the radar, that's a lot more scummy than just not posting outright. I'm not strictly equating post count with towniness - you have a pretty high post count actually - but very little in-depth content. You voted KainTepes for posting elsewhere but not here which is fair. Then Albert called the scumteam as "Imperium, KillTheStory, and one more." Then you vote Jim out of nowhere for posting a GIF. There's no stream of thought or evidence of scumhunting behind the scenes.

I'd appreciate if you elaborate on your reads list in 325 a bit more. Why is KTthecreeper town simply for being low-hanging fruit? Low hanging fruit have just as much chance as anyone of drawing a mafia role. I'd also like to hear your updated read on Jim after the content he posted.

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@Bellaphant -

I agree with most of your reads in 291 but a few follow-up questions:

1. Acryon is right that many were a rehash of the general consensus. Can you elaborate as to where in the 1v1 between Acryon and Magna, you found the former inconsistent.

2. You say that Lowell is mafia for not pushing his reads. You have also not been "pushing" any of your reads currently. What's the difference between what you are doing and what Lowell is doing?

3. I don't understand your read on MagnaOfIllusion at all. You call his initial push dumb but say he "improves" even though you find it hard to follow his points. Can you explain at what point you started reading him as town and why?

4. You say that Imperium is asking the "right" questions. What questions are you referring to? Also, you asked Imperium for their thoughts on two players that you seem pretty sure are town. Why?

[ChurchOfMercy]

Also, it appears that Kain actually siteflaked.

Yeah, I noticed that.

UNVOTE:

[Jim]

KTthecreeper (1): ChurchofMercy