Mini 1783: GTA 2 Mafia (GaME OVAH)

[The Banterlords]

VOTE: TheDominator
Let's get that classy rvs wagon going!

~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

UNVOTE:

NOPE
VOTE: Blackstar
We got our lynch for the day. :3
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Code of Honor [Hydra of: Titus, Xkfyu]
Just realized this hydra is a thing. O_O
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

[*] All Hydrae in this game are public. Since there are three, which is a LOT, and I was too busy to notice and limit it to 2,

I require all hydrae to sign posts with which head it is that is talking.

[The Banterlords]

[*] All Hydrae in this game are public. Since there are three, which is a LOT, and I was too busy to notice and limit it to 2,

I require all hydrae to sign posts with which head it is that is talking.

wow I'm a hypocrite
~Dwlee99

[The Banterlords]

Why is everyone continuing RVS when we caught blackstar.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Dwlee really enjoys sheeping Titus for very little logic, so he will do it until the ends of the earth.

What. I didn't sheep titus. Why u discredit me..
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

VOTE: thedominator37 you're not gonna dominate any of us

VOTE: Dominator

He knows why.

VOTE: TheDominator
Let's get that classy rvs wagon going!

~Dwlee

I agree
VOTE: Dom

UNVOTE:

He panicked and unvoted the wagon. I think that's scummy.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

UNVOTE:

NOPE
VOTE: Blackstar
We got our lynch for the day. :3
~Dwlee

VOTE: BlackStar

Yeah. This needs to hang.

VOTE: Blackstar[/b]

For I beeeliveee
I beeeliveee in loooveee

Why me = Fry me.
@DS How is this me sheeping titus?
~Dwlee
VOTE: Black star

Jeanne, you formatted your tag wrong.

[The Banterlords]

UNVOTE:

NOPE
VOTE: Blackstar
We got our lynch for the day. :3
~Dwlee

VOTE: BlackStar

Yeah. This needs to hang.

VOTE: Blackstar[/b]

For I beeeliveee
I beeeliveee in loooveee

Why me = Fry me.

VOTE: Black star

Jeanne, you formatted your tag wrong.

@DS How is this me sheeping titus?
~Dwlee

put the text in titus' post lol. Fixed in the quote.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

UNVOTE: blackstar
VOTE: Dragonknight

ok I think you're town. But for future reference getting out of RVS is good because then discussion is generated. Like now I have a town read on you and a scum read on ds / fire.

[The Banterlords]

UNVOTE: blackstar
VOTE: Dragonknight

ok I think you're town. But for future reference getting out of RVS is good because then discussion is generated. Like now I have a town read on you and a scum read on ds / fire.

~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Dom is following his scum meta


VOTE: Dom


~KT

[The Banterlords]

Explain kt

I did

[The Banterlords]

Explain kt

I did

~KT

[The Banterlords]

dragon knight completely misrepped my reason for voting blackstar and discredited me. And I actually missed one of blackstar's posts (the one before my string of posts) that was townie.
Moving our vote back to here:
VOTE: DragonKnight
Will talk with KT when he responds to skype.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

VOTE: thedominator37 you're not gonna dominate any of us

VOTE: Dominator

He knows why.

VOTE: TheDominator
Let's get that classy rvs wagon going!

~Dwlee

I agree
VOTE: Dom

UNVOTE:

He panicked and unvoted the wagon. I think that's scummy.
~Dwlee

Scummy because him and I are buddies?

Dwlee pls

I found it (hardly) alignment indicative just cause it seemed like they were worried about a wagon picking up. I pushed it to generate discussion.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

every game kt and dom are in I swear KT says dom is following his scum meta lol
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

dragon knight completely misrepped my reason for voting blackstar and discredited me.
~dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Ahem, my bad. A little hydra dissonance here. I'm sure you'd understand, Titus.

UNVOTE:
-DS

Why me = Fry me.

VOTE: Black star

Jeanne, you formatted your tag wrong.

~Titus

VOTE: Code of Honor

Clearly a double agent signing her real name instead of her cover one

Why is everyone continuing RVS when we caught blackstar.
~Dwlee

Why is everyone continuing RVS when we caught blackstar.
~Dwlee

Because you didn't catch anything.

Yea dwlee can you elaborate?

Dwlee really enjoys sheeping Titus for very little logic, so he will do it until the ends of the earth.

Dwlee really enjoys sheeping Titus for very little logic, so he will do it until the ends of the earth.

-DS

^
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

you were saying it is why I voted blackstar
~dwlee

[The Banterlords]

That's not misrepping. That's you misrepping. We were simply stating a fact.

Well, you didn't give a better reason.

UNVOTE:

NOPE
VOTE: Blackstar
We got our lynch for the day. :3
~Dwlee

^ yes i did

nice backtrack btw.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

black is town cause under pressure they gave townie responses :3
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

But dragonknight's discrediting of me is scummy ~af~
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

You have got to be kidding me.
This is page 6, people.

I am half considering not claiming at all. Let you guys just hammer us and be done with it.

-Fire

Well sport maybe you can explain (or get your partner to explain more precisely) why his mis-rep on the Banterlord vote for Black wasn't scummy as fuck undermining of the slot. Because it's already been established that Banterlords made that vote before Code had even posted. So there was no way in hell that it was some sheeping as Diamond tried to present it as.

Christ, man, you really suck at Mafia, almost as much as Dwlee does. How about you stop thinking that everyone who says something you don't agree with is scum.

[The Banterlords]

You have got to be kidding me.
This is page 6, people.

I am half considering not claiming at all. Let you guys just hammer us and be done with it.

-Fire

Well sport maybe you can explain (or get your partner to explain more precisely) why his mis-rep on the Banterlord vote for Black wasn't scummy as fuck undermining of the slot. Because it's already been established that Banterlords made that vote before Code had even posted. So there was no way in hell that it was some sheeping as Diamond tried to present it as.

Christ, man, you really suck at Mafia, almost as much as Dwlee does. How about you stop thinking that everyone who says something you don't agree with is scum.

~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

What responses did you read as town Dwlee and why?

Black, I have explained why I did not like your unvote. You must not be reading the game close enough.

I unvoted because it felt like too many people were getting on the wagon. Also, I'm a he not a her. I'm still waiting for someone to explain why they like their vote on me

I didn't panick. Don't know how you could even come to that conclusion.

I also don't like how you've been trying to rush us out of RVS. Especially on a flimsy reason like this.

~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

What responses did you read as town Dwlee and why?

Black, I have explained why I did not like your unvote. You must not be reading the game close enough.

I unvoted because it felt like too many people were getting on the wagon. Also, I'm a he not a her. I'm still waiting for someone to explain why they like their vote on me

honest response

I didn't panick. Don't know how you could even come to that conclusion.

calling me out on my bs

I also don't like how you've been trying to rush us out of RVS. Especially on a flimsy reason like this.

I see a lot of town say rushing out of rvs is bad. Haven't seen scum see it yet.

~Dwlee

Plus it feels genuine
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

throwing out there that polar is really townie so yea
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

The DS flai
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

You have got to be kidding me.
This is page 6, people.

I am half considering not claiming at all. Let you guys just hammer us and be done with it.

-Fire

I am pretty sure we are still at L-1, so before someone does something stupid.
I guess we should claim.

We are a cop.

So yeah, you guys put a cop at L-1, congrats.

GOOD PLAYS!

-Fire

hate to be that guy if you are actually a cop but that doesn't feel cop-like to me..
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Do go on how you think we're "cop-like", sorta like how in Red Neighborhood, you thought he was "cop-like"...

i said you weren't cop-like here. I don't understand any of your posts cause they make 0 sense in response to other people's posts.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Do go on how you think we're "cop-like", sorta like how in Red Neighborhood, you thought he was "cop-like"...

i said you weren't cop-like here. I don't understand any of your posts cause they make 0 sense in response to other people's posts.
~Dwlee

Not*

My point is, stop relying on your own crappy intuition because it will lose town this game as well.

Johnny was cop in that game. lol
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Do go on how you think we're "cop-like", sorta like how in Red Neighborhood, you thought he was "cop-like"...

i said you weren't cop-like here. I don't understand any of your posts cause they make 0 sense in response to other people's posts.
~Dwlee

Not*

My point is, stop relying on your own crappy intuition because it will lose town this game as well.

I guess this is a town read.

-Snow

On Dwlee? No. This is a "I will only address the possibility that you are town because it's useless to address anything else"

which head is this?
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Ok so at like page 5 I was thinking "Dragon is probably town this is most likily a big misunderstanding and everything is going to turn around once I start posting"

Then the next 4 pages was Both of DK's heads being a petulant little brat and I don't like that

I mean when they started picking on Dwlee I was kinda okay with it because I too think dwlee is playing a horrible game but then they started screaming at other people and just not being helpful at all to town.

Not only that but that cop claim was the fakest thing I've ever seen. I mean yea I guess I'm use to bigger role maddness type games were most role Pms have something different but Come on don't you think if you were town cop and you were in the mist of being Policy lynched wouldn't you try your best to show the town your actually the cop and I haven't even gotten into the fact they didn't even claim alignment, I mean if wouldn't you say you're "Town Cop" instead of doing "I'm cop there I said it happy now?" I mean wow that's just horrible.

Now the last thing I want is this to end with a vote that has no content so if someone hammers I'd expect for them to have a legitiment reason that isn't just paraphrasing what everyone else has already said.

Finally Dwlee you got to actually put some content into your post, you look like I did when I first started ;/

~KT

[The Banterlords]

Oh

@mod

PhantomCobalt Jeanne11 and DiamondSenatal haven't posted in 3 days

[The Banterlords]

Oh

@mod

PhantomCobalt Jeanne11 and DiamondSenatal haven't posted in 3 days

Wait Diamondsenatal is part of the DK Hydra

well I feel stupid now

[The Banterlords]

UNVOTE:
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

And you are not even consider that playstyles, including mine, can change. Just ask CoH.

it's like beetlejuice!

[The Banterlords]

And you are not even consider that playstyles, including mine, can change. Just ask CoH.

it's like beetlejuice!

~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

tbh masquerade's face is probably like a shallow mudpool considering they need to wear a mask.
*points at name*
-Dwlee99

[The Banterlords]

I don't see how my face is relevant here.

You called my read a shallow mudpool.

Dwlee where's my boy KT?

Idk bro, Kt told me he signs up for games om here and just ends upnot postimg much. I tried to talk to him about reads a little but I cant remember what he said other than thinking I am bad lol
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

lol

[The Banterlords]

we know it's role madness! i don't get how that's relevant? just because it's possible for a scum to have a cop-like role? when we're going entirely on DK's word, it doesn't matter if they're scum with a cop role or simply lying scum... none of that has any bearing on it. you don't lynch cop claims day 1 in role madness, you don't do it in normal games either!

Am I voting DK? No I am not. I am just saying that we should be careful just trusting a cop-claim, especially because they've been acting so anti-town. I was a scumtracker once and I won because nobody ever doubts an un-cc'ed claim. Like I said, I'm not going to take their claim at face-value; they're going to have to do more to prove they're town to me.

what are the differences between our reads?

I just felt Banter was quick to call him town after their push on him. Made me feel like Banter is scum and their scumread on Blackstar was fake. But I'm going to elaborate more on my reads Day 2, once we've had some flips and I have more information on the associative reads I have now. I now have 2 scumreads on players that are most likely not scum together and that's messing with my head. So I need flips.

You called my read a shallow mudpool.

I still don't see how my face is relevant then and you're now starting to piss me off. If you don't have anything to say about the points I made against you, then just don't talk to me at all.

Blackstar: you forgot to answer my question: why are you voting Polar?

PEdit:
Blackstar, what's your read on Polar? Why did you want his reaction?

Like you obviously don't know what banter is. I even said in my post to look at the username (The BANTERLords). Stop being salty about me kidding around lol

[The Banterlords]

AND there isnt even anything to respond to when all you say is "it is a shallow mudpool" like ok dude that's cool. How am I supposed to respond to that. This feels more like a salt war than like the actual game but god damn dude.

[The Banterlords]

^ both dwlee

[The Banterlords]

AND there isnt even anything to respond to when all you say is "it is a shallow mudpool" like ok dude that's cool. How am I supposed to respond to that. This feels more like a salt war than like the actual game but god damn dude.

You don't respond to that. You use that to make a read on me and move on. Or if you think I'm miles off with my opinon, you can ask me to elaborate. You bringing up my face is in no way helpful to the game because I can't make a read on your alignment that way.

@Magna: I guess I misinterpreted your stance then. And that's the last I'll say about it.

So nobody gives a hoot about my FAq2-vote?

It was BANTER

[The Banterlords]

AND there isnt even anything to respond to when all you say is "it is a shallow mudpool" like ok dude that's cool. How am I supposed to respond to that. This feels more like a salt war than like the actual game but god damn dude.

You don't respond to that. You use that to make a read on me and move on. Or if you think I'm miles off with my opinon, you can ask me to elaborate. You bringing up my face is in no way helpful to the game because I can't make a read on your alignment that way.

@Magna: I guess I misinterpreted your stance then. And that's the last I'll say about it.

So nobody gives a hoot about my FAq2-vote?

It was BANTER

-Dwlee

Also, I feel like not saying my reads.

[The Banterlords]

oh my god
VOTE: Jeanne
Cop is not "Very similar" to tracker. That claim was just bleh o3o

~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

UNVOTE:
actually idk I'm tired so lemme think when my eyes dont feel like they're about to fall off my face
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Dwlee where's my boy KT?

Dieing of school and swim team


mostly swim team

oh yea, I'm catching up right now
~KT

[The Banterlords]

lol at the school part


Lynch train headed to jeanne station!
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Very well, since all you do is throw shade on me yourself, I'll stop you by claiming fully. I am a town watcher.

Thats no where near cop fml

VOTE: Jeanne11

idk if we already have the vote on or not but she is sucm

~KT

[The Banterlords]

Dwlee where's my boy KT?

Dieing of school and swim team


mostly swim team

oh yea, I'm catching up right now
~KT

I have school robotics 2 different bands and homework and yet I still have time for this. Pls KT

you don't have swim practice 5 days a week and every day it leaves you so sore you need to rest eat dinner and go to sleep

[The Banterlords]

Dwlee where's my boy KT?

Dieing of school and swim team


mostly swim team

oh yea, I'm catching up right now
~KT

I have school robotics 2 different bands and homework and yet I still have time for this. Pls KT

you don't have swim practice 5 days a week and every day it leaves you so sore you need to rest eat dinner and go to sleep

~KT

[The Banterlords]

Dwlee where's my boy KT?

Dieing of school and swim team


mostly swim team

oh yea, I'm catching up right now
~KT

I have school robotics 2 different bands and homework and yet I still have time for this. Pls KT

you don't have swim practice 5 days a week and every day it leaves you so sore you need to rest eat dinner and go to sleep

I used to have swim practice. I only felt sore for the first 2 weeks and then I felt completely fine after each practice.

This is a 50 meter long course though and I practice with high schoolers when I'm only 12 ;/

[The Banterlords]

Dwlee where's my boy KT?

Dieing of school and swim team


mostly swim team

oh yea, I'm catching up right now
~KT

I have school robotics 2 different bands and homework and yet I still have time for this. Pls KT

you don't have swim practice 5 days a week and every day it leaves you so sore you need to rest eat dinner and go to sleep

I used to have swim practice. I only felt sore for the first 2 weeks and then I felt completely fine after each practice.

This is a 50 meter long course though and I practice with high schoolers when I'm only 12 ;/

~KTthecreeper

now lets stop bantering and play the game

[The Banterlords]

now lets

stop bantering

and play the game

lol ok

POST COMING UP FOR POLAR VORTEX!!!
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

VOTE: Jeanne11

idk if we already have the vote on or not but she is sucm

~KT

Why?

-Snow

Well you see~~~

I am a PR that is close to DK's claim. Oh, and for emphasis, I said

close to it

not

same as it

they

I am a PR that is close to DK's claim. Oh, and for emphasis, I said

close to it

not

same as it

Why are you saying this now?

because we were talking about lynching her?

Very well, since all you do is throw shade on me yourself, I'll stop you by claiming fully. I am a town watcher.

Under no pressure for a claim.
Decides to put pressure on DK by claiming a "Similar" role but leaves enough room for when (this is where I'm assuming DK is town) dk flips cop that jeanne can say "oh well I said close to it not the same". There was 0 reason to softclaim at all as town right there. I believe the reason they claimed is as scourge pointed out in 307 we talked about lynching her for lurking and then she fully claims 3 posts later as watcher. (That's not even that similar to a cop)

[The Banterlords]

VOTE: Jeanne11

idk if we already have the vote on or not but she is sucm

~KT

Why?

-Snow

Well you see~~~

I am a PR that is close to DK's claim. Oh, and for emphasis, I said

close to it

not

same as it

they

I am a PR that is close to DK's claim. Oh, and for emphasis, I said

close to it

not

same as it

Why are you saying this now?

because we were talking about lynching her?

Very well, since all you do is throw shade on me yourself, I'll stop you by claiming fully. I am a town watcher.

Under no pressure for a claim.
Decides to put pressure on DK by claiming a "Similar" role but leaves enough room for when (this is where I'm assuming DK is town) dk flips cop that jeanne can say "oh well I said close to it not the same". There was 0 reason to softclaim at all as town right there. I believe the reason they claimed is as scourge pointed out in 307 we talked about lynching her for lurking and then she fully claims 3 posts later as watcher. (That's not even that similar to a cop)

~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

BlackStar is 100% right and Polar is also 100% scum. Trying to defend your scumbuddy who undoubtably has a really useful role...

Lynch with fiyah!

How about we lynch Jeanne today and you use your "cop" role thing to invest Polar


~KTthcreeper

[The Banterlords]

Ok Polar so you don't want a Jeanne lynch so what do YOU suggest we do today? I want your thought on who we should lynch.


~KTthecreeper

[The Banterlords]

i feel like i had something to say but i just feel like puking the contents of my stomach out instead so oh well
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Us as Jeanne partner is the most idiotic thing I've heard in this game. She looks like a liability for any scum team. If we were scum with her, why wouldn't we just buss her ass right now?

Also for people who want to investigate us, we're ascetic.

Bearbert

Always claim this stuff way earlier than you did.

they did in their first post.

I can go along with that plan, bbt.
UNVOTE:
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

I think the premise is that scim cant kill you without being watched doing it but they could just roleblock jeanne if both of you are town. idk
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

I think the premise is that scim cant kill you without being watched doing it but they could just roleblock jeanne if both of you are town. idk
~Dwlee

Sounds like you know scum have a rb.

you caught me
If both of them are town, a roleblocker almost certainly exists. If one of them is scum that person can claim roleblocked. Them being scum together isnt a thing I dont think unless some crazy scum theatre is going on.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

masquerade I apologize about the face thing if that offended you, btw. I was kidding around.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

lol there's not a third party in a 13 player game
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

uhmmm what?
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

masquerade, having found your main may ask why you need an alt?
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Us as Jeanne partner is the most idiotic thing I've heard in this game. She looks like a liability for any scum team. If we were scum with her, why wouldn't we just buss her ass right now?

Also for people who want to investigate us, we're ascetic.

Bearbert

Always claim this stuff way earlier than you did.

they did in their first post.

I can go along with that plan, bbt.
UNVOTE:
~Dwlee

Then why are you not voting for me?

Why can you 'go along with that play' but not willing to but your vote anywhere?

by plan I meant the thing with jeanne watching dk
~DWlee

[The Banterlords]

aww come on I had magna as town.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

We've got 6 days. Who're we gonna lynch. I'm positive it's Ranger, so I suggest we go for that.

Why do all my town reads scum read each other?
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Scum team is banta and polar/ranger

ok dom

[The Banterlords]

^
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Scum team is banta and polar/ranger

this is me trying to figure out why dom is saying me and polar or ranger. Why only 2?

[The Banterlords]

^
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

oh ranger replaced jeanne. this presents some problems
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Lol I just thought about my reads and realized that I am town reading almost everyone
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Can you just like quote all.the stuff.I should respond to cause I am on my phone so no ty
Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

I refuse to contemplate the possibility of ranger being scum until much later in the game. ^-^
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

I refuse to contemplate the possibility of ranger being scum until much later in the game. ^-^
~Dwlee

And that's why she doesn't get lynched at all in her scum games.

-FB

Machina is obviously an exception because it was a hydra and stuff.

I can't elaborate but your 'meta reads' are p bad.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

I am saying that your meta read on jeanne was bad, I don't know anything about ranger's meta but I'm p sure they've refuted your meta points.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

titus you should give your read on me :3
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

I am soooo clueless this game. Titus hasnt given her read on me
all wagons suck.but.dom imo
dwlee

[The Banterlords]

I'm not reading super in depth all I know is that I'll compromise on dom most likely. Ranger and DK shouldn't be lynched today under any circumstances (town reading them and they claim important roles) so yea

[The Banterlords]

I'm not reading super in depth all I know is that I'll compromise on dom most likely. Ranger and DK shouldn't be lynched today under any circumstances (town reading them and they claim important roles) so yea

~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

oh today was titus?
VOTE: Code of Honor
Someone hasn't answered my question. >:3

pedit she and eh

[The Banterlords]

oh today was titus?
VOTE: Code of Honor
Someone hasn't answered my question. >:3

pedit she and eh

dwlee

@Banter
What's your thoughts on Magna?

They've been posting walls recently but before that I was town reading them.
I've noticed this game I have wayyyy too many town reads though so I need to fix that.

oh today was titus?
VOTE: Code of Honor
Someone hasn't answered my question. >:3

pedit she and eh

You should answer mine. I am trying to read you.

Thoughts on Ircher?

~Titus

I think ircher is town as they seem to be solving the game. I haven't actually read all the posts but from what I've read +++

[The Banterlords]

^ more dwlee

idk what the hell kt is doing honestly

[The Banterlords]

i'm gonna read from page 28 and on and actually read
~ more dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Why is it unsurprising?

As I explained to Code above – my gut reaction to the terrible “case” (if you want to call it that) Ranger threw at me was “scum”. I disagree with your premise that this stance isn’t Scum looking to diffuse the wagon on them. A Town player in Ranger’s shoes should have some suspicion of the players whose case on Ranger’s slot is “Meta from prior player and lurking”. There was enough noise made in that direction that several other players stepped in to say “No, not lynching that”. But Ranger blithely just chalks that whole crew up to “Unimpeachable Town” which to me makes no sense from a Town standpoint. Especially on the basis she has provided as support.

You say it is unsurprising that she called her accusers town, but you're arguing that she's scum because she's not doing what you'd expect a town player to do in her position. It sounds like scum-her would have been better doing the expected from town and pushing one of her towny suspects, making her look town and still helping her push a mislynch. So her reads are not as expected or unsurprising as you made it sound.

Also, why is it so hard to believe that she does find them to be town? I find it harder to believe that a scum player would give up on such easy pushes.

Yeah, I really don't get the "Scum looking to survive" vibe from her. I mean, it's not like she claimed cop at L-1

See this comment confuses me. Do you think it was scummy for a player to claim Cop at L-1? Independent of what I think of Dragon’s play that lead to the wagon I don’t see anything inherently more scummy about claiming at L-1 as opposed to Jean claiming Watcher effectively “just because”. Of the two Jean’s claim looks objectively worse when viewed form a distance.

A cop claim at L-1/2 from a suspected player is always something to be weary of. I think I've already said how damaging it could be to us if he's scum, but I'll say it again. If he was getting lynched on D1, the cop claim buys him another night (where he can kill and or use his role) and another day, where he can claim a result, which can lead to a mislynch. A mislynch on day 2 would buy him yet another night and day. A cop claim is a free ticket. He loses nothing because he was already getting lynched and he can win two nights and two days, plus all the chaos and distraction he can cause.

It's much different from Jeanne's claim. She wasn't under as much pressure, there was talk of lynching her but no wagon. Her claim had risks (DK's didn't). Claiming cornered her into a role that could bring her difficulties later on. If she had the role she'd have to use it wisely because she'd have to reveal her results and couldn't risk getting caught lying. If she didn't have the role the risk would be even bigger because she'd be forced to lie. This was entirely avoidable. It is counterproductive and unnecessary. If there's something bad about her claim is that it was also completely unnecessary for her to do claim as town, but Jeanne obviously didn't bother to play and relied on her role to survive.

MoI, talk to me. I thought you'd see this, but apparently you don't. How is ranger's lynch acceptable but DK's isn't, taking not just their claims, but their play in consideration?

-Snow (previous one was mine too)

Ok I thought I had been talking to you this entire time.

I think I’ve explained this in my response to Ranger but I’ll reiterate – both players I’ve read as scummy. Dragon for his early player which earned my vote and Ranger for the replace in reads which to me don’t logically come from a Town standpoint. As I said earlier – I’m not lynching an UnCCed Cop Day 1 no matter how bad their player is. Dragon’s claim will be tested via Night and re-assessed. On the other hand I don’t believe a Watcher is nearly at the level of Cop as far as leash Day 1 goes.

Is Ranger my preferred lynch? No, not at this stage. But it is a lynch I would consider dependent on how my read on the slot develops.

As much as I'd like to, I'm not arguing for a DK lynch, I'm giving them a chance and hoping they're town, even though I'm aware their claim can be really hurtful to us if they're scum. So, if I'm willing to take this risk with DK, as are you, why aren't you willing to take the risk with Ranger? Because her reads "don’t logically come from a Town standpoint"? Because her role is weaker? Opinions. Opinions I disagree with. "Opinions" that to me can't logically come from a Town standpoint.

You're downplaying the value of her role and stubbornly scum reading her for things that are just wrong, no matter how well you try to justify them.

- Snow

yea i got nothing.

[The Banterlords]

oh yea I multiquoted that before I started arguing with someone on skype about social welfare. Polar is town. That thought process is real.
~Both Dwlee

pedit it reminded me

[The Banterlords]

UNVOTE:

[The Banterlords]

No no no no no no ranger..
~Both Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

or you know, maybe they have the tab open and are afk?

[The Banterlords]

Why are you refusing to think about the fact that they could have left the tab open while they eat?
~Both dwlee again

pedit Idc, they claim first.

[The Banterlords]

You're starting to give off some really bad vibes, ranger

~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Ircher, Ranger, hammer.

Also, for Dwlee, that is null, at best. that's not his town play, unfortunately.

I really don't understand that last line.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Ircher, Ranger, hammer.

Also, for Dwlee, that is null, at best. that's not his town play, unfortunately.

I really don't understand that last line.
~Dwlee

The unvote. It's not your town play.

Are you saying me unvoting is scummy? Are you for real?
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Id be willing to bet you're being coached, but first I've gotta find that coach.

do you believe the words you say?
~Dwlee

pedit ok apparently you do

[The Banterlords]

point to me being coached, por favor.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Dwlee's words are intelligent, yet empty. That's the exact opposite of his town-game.

you mod one game where I am town and you're an expert on my meta?
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

I am mad I can't even call ds / firebringer an idiot because THEY DONT FUCKING SIGN /rant
~Dwlee
pedit that is great we're letting them claim
I am just like my country, I am young scrappy and hungry

pedit and yet I get mislynched very frequently. mm k

[The Banterlords]

I am mad I can't even call ds / firebringer an idiot because THEY DONT FUCKING SIGN /rant
~Dwlee
pedit that is great we're letting them claim
I am just like my country, I am young scrappy and hungry

pedit and yet I get mislynched very frequently. mm k

how about you read what We said earlier. Like yesterday. We explained why we're not going to sign. And by explain, We merely said what's causing us to not sign. If you can't find that, then you don't need to read us. We both have very similar games.

"oh we're the same slot so we don't sign"
Yea that's a real great reason to go directly against the rules and not sign
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

There's no good excuse for breaking the mod's rules

^^^
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Mine?

at first I was just like "Why the heck is the list mod stealing page tops" and then just lol
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

you ignored my entire point about getting mislynched a ton.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

you ignored my entire point about getting mislynched a ton.
~Dwlee

You're implying that people aren't stupid.

Dwlee's words are intelligent, yet empty. That's the exact opposite of his town-game.

you mod one game where I am town and you're an expert on my meta?
~Dwlee

No, when I actually started playing with you, I decided to read up. You're rather hapless (how I was before I got sick of following people), but you're entirely genuine and nigh-always obv-town during your town games.

If I obvtown during my town games like you say then you're the idiot for not seeing me as town this game lmao
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Deadline is in

(expired on 2016-04-24 00:01:11).

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes for a lynch.

VC 1.9

Votecount #1.9

BlueBloodedToffee

(0) -

The Banterlords

(0) -

FA_Q2

(1) - BlueBloodedToffee.

Dragon Knight

(0) -

BlackStar

(1) - MagnaofIllusion.

Code of Honor

(5) - Dragon Knight, FA_Q2, Masquerade, BlackStar, Ranger.

Ranger

(1) - TheDominator37.

Masquerade

(0) -

Ircher

(1) - Code of Honor.

TheDominator37

(0) -

MagnaofIllusion

(2) - Ircher, Polar Vortex.

Polar Vortex

(0) -

A Real Scourge

(0) -

NOT VOTING (2) - A Real Scourge, The Banterlords.

NOTICE:

1. I will be taking over while shos is in recovery. Please let me know if there is anything that I missed.
2. This is a reminder that hydras are required to sign their posts. Please remember to post in your hydra account.
3. FA_Q2 is V/LA until April 23.

Did you know?

the "SRS" of the scientists in the residential area stand for "Sex and Reproductive Systems".

intent

[The Banterlords]

^ I'm going to finish this iron triangle thing and then hammer.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

-facepalm-
diamond said they were at l-1, then I unvoted and ranger voted.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Look at the VC that you just quoted. Code of honor has 5 votes. It says right there that you need 7 votes to lynch

yea. I know. I'm facepalming at us.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Also, Dwlee, you are not being transparent like you usually are. Ergo, you're likely scum.

disagreed?
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

pretty much all of my posts are transparent
~Dwlee again

[The Banterlords]

as scum I prepare my fake claims nice and early. In justified mafia I had flavor cop in mind from day one.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

intent to hammer

[The Banterlords]

VOTE: Code of Honor
~Both Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

Welcome to GTA2 Mafia, Dragon Knight!

You are a

disrespectful-behaviour-motivated Yakuza gangster

, who's pissed at one rival, and who will do anything to painfully kill him.

Gangs or not, some things are not to be FUCKED WITH. You, you are one of those things.
And this guy. He fucked with you. What he did is absurd. Inappropriate. Disrespectful. They must pay. With tears and blood.

Your abilities:

For your Vendetta march, you grab

a BP vest,

a

Flamethrower

, some

Molotov Cocktails

, and just in case,

Double Damage

. Your BP vests will save you

once from any kind of death.

At one night during the game, you may burn someone. They will slowly

burn

in agony and die after the NEXT night. They will be told they are on fire.
At one day during the game, you may throw your Molotov on someone. They will

explode

the fuck out of this City.
Each of these kills has to be sent to me with a declaration whether or not you use your one-shot Dobule Damage. Usage of that will make the kill a

strongman kill

.

You win if Ranger, who disrespected you, is LYNCHED, painfully, AND you survive to see the ZAIBATSU dead.

This is the only way people will learn to respect your ass.

Good luck! and remember...

Respect is Everything.

[/spoiler]

Dragon Knight is dead. He was a Bulletproof Semitown-Lyncher, 1-shot Strongman, 1-shot Dayvig, 1-shot Nightvig.

[/area]

Holy shit, shos
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

I shall sheep thee.
VOTE: Magna
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

I kinda feel bad for DK that they couldn't last longer with that role, but I'm happy we don't have to worry about the role anymore!

Digging the magna-votes. However, I also had some ??? at Polar for pushing the compromise-lynch over Code.

nah polar is town for sure
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

finally my townreads are agreeing on each other lol
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

We were set on fire by firebringer lol

Bearbert

shoulda saw it coming tbh
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

DK was actually pseudo-town, masquerade.
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

DK was actually pseudo-town, masquerade.
~Dwlee

Yes but do you have anything with content to add rather than blank statements. We did, after all, get some good flips.

I mean I could iso people but there's a good case on magna out there and effort is hard
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

DK was actually pseudo-town, masquerade.
~Dwlee

Yes but do you have anything with content to add rather than blank statements. We did, after all, get some good flips.

I mean I could iso people but there's a good case on magna out there and effort is hard
~Dwlee

lol.

I should give you shit for this post but I feel the same way much of the time.

~~~
DWlee

[The Banterlords]

ooooh ooh yea dom with the two scum team thing is a huge slip now that we know the scum team is two people
^-^
VOTE: Dom

[The Banterlords]

6 - 1 - 1
Mislynch
3 - 1 - 1 (possible if all scum hit town)
^ that is bad
~Dwlee

[The Banterlords]

What has

either of the banta heads

dominator done other than sheep and lurk lol.

Fixed that for ya' lmao
I am actually probably going to replace out of this account onto Dwlee as it is a pain to go back and forth on.accounts and kt hasnt been interested in playing.
~Dwlee

Pedit: But youre flipping scum sooo

[The Banterlords]

I never said that there was 2 members of the scum team. Just my reads.

wait this is a lie.
Reads are this:
I think Banter, polar and ranger are scum.
The way you said it:
The scum.team.is banter and one.of polar and ranger. ???
~Dwlee