Mini 1774: Formation of America's Mafiascum - Perfect Town W

[Ranger]

The rolefishing in 587 was horrendous, too.

[Persivul]

Dare you to, so much as once, find me OMGUS someone as scum.

DARE you.

I'll wait. I have ten scum games. Find one where I attack a player after they have attacked me, rather than vice-versa. (I always attack first as scum. Always. And can show it in post numbers, 100% of the time.) It shouldn't be that hard, should it? Ten games isn't much to search through, and they're all listed clearly on my game history.

I don't OMGUS as scum. People accuse me of OMGUSing, sure, but it never is.

Interestingly, this is only a defense against the scum charge if you admit that you actually did OMGUS me in this game. So, even if you're town (which I don't believe), you're reading the thread with an initial faulty scum read on me and conf biasing as you go.

[Ranger]

Interestingly, this is only a defense against the scum charge if you admit that you actually did OMGUS me in this game.

I have no qualms with admitting to OMGUSing when town.

It is, after all, an objective fact.

You stated suspicion on my slot prior to me stating suspicion on your slot.
Your stated suspicion on my slot (rather, the turnaround present there) was the first contributing factor to my suspicion on your slot. It is, by

far

, not the only thing and suggesting it is would be a strawman, but it was in fact the second thing to stick out. (The first being the white knighting.) So, by the definition of OMGUS, it was in fact OMGUS.

Doesn't make the read any less valid, though!

[Ranger]

For the record, at this stage, I'm pretty confident in my reads and think we've got this game absolutely won.
We can chain lynches here.
Mislynch me? Power through Persivul, Klingoncelt, and itlepip in that order.
Let me live? Lynch Persivul first, then Klingoncelt.
If the game's not over, then lynch either itlepip or myself (whichever order you prefer, doesn't matter), then lynch the other.

As long as nobody outside of us four is mislynched, we've got the game won.

[Alchemist21]

511 was a scum hammer, too.

Why is this a scumhammer?

[Ranger]

633 was a bad defense, but it's absolutely nothing compared to 638. THAT post, my friends, is why both I and Suzune are town. Klingoncelt wanted to encourage the 1v1 between beeboy and Suzune, since them mutually realizing the other was town and townblocking was something scum could not afford.

[Ranger]

Why is this a scumhammer?

Because it was painfully obvious that SirCakez was going down that day, and he was hoping to earn some town credit for being the hammer vote.

I have seen this behavior from Persivul before. Namely, post 1192 here.

[Suzune]

I actually enjoy having Ranger do this because i think the game needed the new eyes.

[Ranger]

654/657 continue the extremely anti-town rolefishing as well.

This, again, is behavior common to Persivul's scum game which is rare to find in his town game.

[Ranger]

I actually enjoy having Ranger do this because i think the game needed the new eyes.

<3

Now all you need to do is follow my reads. Preferably with me alive, though I

am

willing to die first conditional on you not deviating from my lynch order. (Persivul->Klingoncelt, and if the game's not over->itlepip.)

[Suzune]

I am waiting until you reach a point I want to talk about, then you can tell me if you still think that is a good lynch order.

[Ranger]

Well, as of 712, I might be willing to have Klingoncelt first, but it's still really close.

All the conftown are conftown.
Alchemist21 is strongly town.
itlepip is somewhat-town. He's only included because if it's

not

{Klingoncelt, Persivul}, he's the only name I could see as even potentially scum.

[Alchemist21]

Why is this a scumhammer?

Because it was painfully obvious that SirCakez was going down that day, and he was hoping to earn some town credit for being the hammer vote.

I have seen this behavior from Persivul before. Namely, post 1192 here.

Ok, I see what you're saying.

[Alchemist21]

Is Dierfire one of your confTown, and if so why?

[Ranger]

787 is really on point in regards to Klingoncelt.

[Ranger]

Is Dierfire one of your confTown, and if so why?

Admittedly, Dierfire gets weaker on D2, but so do you. His D1 play was really solid, and I very strongly do not think Dierfire was bussing. Unlike, say, Persivul's throwaway vote, Dierfire had strong reasons behind the push, and was very strongly pointing out a lot of things around the wagon as well. I forget what point exactly pushed Dierfire into that tier, but yes, Dierfire is a top-tier townread now.

[Ranger]

Correction, it was 786 which was the on-point post.

[Ranger]

790 is also accurate.

[itlepip]

FTR all of what Ranger just said is what I was saying yesterday.

[itlepip]

(In that I endorse it and at the same time don't townread Ranger for it).

[Ranger]

807 was scum-scum interactions too, especially given Persivul voted Klingoncelt before Firebringer. (Speaking of: the Klingoncelt vote reads as distancing, as he never continues the push; it's a throwaway vote whenever he makes it, similar to how SirCakez's Persivul vote was a throwaway vote that was quickly retracted.)

[Ranger]

(In that I endorse it and at the same time don't townread Ranger for it).

Then you won't mind lynching Persivul and Klingoncelt first!

[Ranger]

Alchemist21 - Paying attention, calling out stuff as he sees it.
Beeboy - His thought processes are similar to mine.
Persivul - His scumgame is horrible. He's not playing baly, therefore he's nearly confirmed Town.
Nosferatu - Tunnel on SirCakes was good.

One of these is not like the others~

[Ranger]

But, really, 856 is an accurate summary of her readslist in general. None of the reads below the town line are good (the scumreads are particularly egregious), and the Persivul townread is absolutely horrid.

[Ranger]

857 was a valid point as well.