Mini 1784: Mafia Z – Game Over


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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:16 am

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In post 192, Untrod Tripod wrote:wait shit you're right, I was confusing that with ascetic

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there is no way someone of your caliber can make low level mistakes like confusing the interpretation of "not mafia" and "no result"

it also doesn't make sense for there to be an ascetic mafia and not godfather when there is a cop that specifically cops for mafia

here's out tinfoil theory, there was only 1 night kill last night, most likely because the werewolf was roleblocked

UT knew he was roleblocked, so he lied about being a cop and getting "no result" to dismantle his wagon


so can we go back and vote scum thanks
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:26 am

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that really doesn't hold up to scrutiny

if I'm "of that caliber" then you would think that my fakeclaim would not have a mistake in it, no?

everyone makes mistakes dude. sorry to be the one to have to tell you that.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:27 am

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Or maybe maf and werewolves don't kill the same night?

Think how fucking imba 10p multiball would be normally.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:29 am

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Could be like jungle republic, except mafia has the kill instead of werewolves?
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:29 am

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Doesn't make sense because that would make the starting numbers 2/3/5.

I suspect it's 2/2/6.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:40 am

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In post 202, RadiantCowbells wrote:Or maybe maf and werewolves don't kill the same night?

Think how fucking imba 10p multiball would be normally.

this is a game where most likely vts dont make up the majority

the double kills per night can be compensated by multiple kill-prevention roles
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:45 am

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from purely a setup-spec perspective:

that would be a really bad idea as that could very easily end up with a no-win scenario for both scum factions because of massclaims. RCs suggestion is far more likely than "throw in a bunch of docs and roleblockers and bps"
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:47 am

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In post 201, Untrod Tripod wrote:that really doesn't hold up to scrutiny

if I'm "of that caliber" then you would think that my fakeclaim would not have a mistake in it, no?

everyone makes mistakes dude. sorry to be the one to have to tell you that.

it's a tinfoil theory dude, and this isn't just a "haha my b" mistake dude, how can you not understand what your role does dude
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:49 am

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the confusion actually came from all of the godfather-type roles in my games actually being ascetics

when I got "no results" I said SHIT, HE'S THE GF because I've been using ascetics that way for so long that my brain went to that definition for a GF role instead of remembering I would get a straight inno.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:50 am

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kinda confused why you're mocking my usage of the word "dude" but I'll just let that go instead of arguing about it
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:52 am

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With as many scum as there are I have no issues believing a cop claim and in fact think that there would basically have to be one.

I suspect there's a seer as well?
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:53 am

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k

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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:54 am

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depends on if the setup is 7/2/1 or 6/2/2, but yeah given that my role seems to specifically be for mafia I would think so and if there is one they should obviously stay hidden
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:55 am

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In post 209, Untrod Tripod wrote:kinda confused why you're mocking my usage of the word "dude" but I'll just let that go instead of arguing about it

i wasn't mocking it, you're reading too much
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:41 pm

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In post 206, Untrod Tripod wrote:from purely a setup-spec perspective:

that would be a really bad idea as that could very easily end up with a no-win scenario for both scum factions because of massclaims. RCs suggestion is far more likely than "throw in a bunch of docs and roleblockers and bps"

If scum has a role-cop they would be able to tailor their claim to what the setup looks like

I don't think that's an unreasonable role to assume
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:42 pm

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Dystopian's posting is so fucking bizarre.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:46 pm

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In post 200, yessiree bob wrote:
In post 192, Untrod Tripod wrote:wait shit you're right, I was confusing that with ascetic

unvote


there is no way someone of your caliber can make low level mistakes like confusing the interpretation of "not mafia" and "no result"

it also doesn't make sense for there to be an ascetic mafia and not godfather when there is a cop that specifically cops for mafia

here's out tinfoil theory, there was only 1 night kill last night, most likely because the werewolf was roleblocked

UT knew he was roleblocked, so he lied about being a cop and getting "no result" to dismantle his wagon


so can we go back and vote scum thanks
VOTE: UT

No you don't get to call one confusion a town slip and another confusion a scum slip

"skill" isn't a good enough excuse

Very weary of the UT wagon even as it's dying down
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:47 pm

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Well you've read the posts I've written as coming from Titus which is probably why

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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:47 pm

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also UNVOTE:
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:51 pm

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In post 214, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 206, Untrod Tripod wrote:from purely a setup-spec perspective:

that would be a really bad idea as that could very easily end up with a no-win scenario for both scum factions because of massclaims. RCs suggestion is far more likely than "throw in a bunch of docs and roleblockers and bps"

If scum has a role-cop they would be able to tailor their claim to what the setup looks like

I don't think that's an unreasonable role to assume

...what? how does a role-cop negate a bunch of cross protecting and role blocking and bulletproofing?
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:52 pm

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no its k all scum needs is a role cop.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:54 pm

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In post 216, Dystopian Vision wrote:No you don't get to call one confusion a town slip and another confusion a scum slip

you're grouping the two as if they are the same thing; they are not

there's a drastic difference between mistaking a player with another, and misinterpreting the implications of a negative result and a no result.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:57 pm

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Can we get this KTS wagon going pls?
UT is probably town for now.
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:58 pm

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'probably town for now'

the fuck.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:59 pm

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Ya unless a town investigative flips or CCs somewhere he's probably town
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