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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:13 pm

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Day 1, Votecount 37


5 Minsc and Boo (Fire Assassin, Iecerint, Roshar, Ircher, Ranger)
2 Fire Assassin (Aristophanes, Not_Mafia)
2 RadiantCowbells (Minsc and Boo, Xkfyu)
1 Ircher (Maruchan)
1 Xkfyu (androgybee)

2 Unvote (Gorkington, RadiantCowbells)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2016-04-20 09:00:00), or on Wednesday, April 20th at 9:00 am EDT.


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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:14 pm

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I want to know the opposite:
What specificly about my play do you dislike?


And ask yourself: Do you dislike me cuz I'm acting scummy, or do you dislike my playstyle?
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:14 pm

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In post 943, Gorkington wrote:ari.
you need to give reads.
stop just asking questions yo, cause your fire vote is getting stale.
do you like it still or no?

response to ircherstuff will probably come tomorrow because i dont particularly want to parse it all tonight.
Yeah, I know it's stale. I honestly don't think I like it anymore either.
I just need to focus better here. The sudden extra pages won't help that...

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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:16 pm

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Also, @Nahdia, I meant to ask in the last post.
Do you think scum would put this much effort into Isoing people?
Like, that was at least 2 solid pages of posts, right?
What about them was scummy?
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:16 pm

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i feel like you need to take a step back and really look at the players in the game in isolation or something.
because i dont feel like youre gonna get into this by asking questions yoh.

take a hard stance on someone and push it.

you dont like minsc wagon?
okay.
is it just that theyre leaning null to you? or are you reading them as town?
are you reading the pushers as scummy?
what is it?
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:19 pm

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two random posts that stuck out to me
In post 905, Ircher wrote:
In post 171, Gorkington wrote:
In post 162, Xkfyu wrote:Most (3 out of 4) of Smudgers votes accumulated before he even made his first post, so why are you connecting his entrance with his wagon?
do you disagree that smudger's wagon still being a thing is related to his entrance?
y/n?
if y, why ask such a pointless question.
if n, why are you being wrong at me?

xk wrote:Also, why do you believe that he won't react until his wagon's momentum slows down?
lack of reaction to the rest of the wagon.

xkfyu wrote:You just gonna scum read me and ignore my questions?
yes and maybe.

xkfyu wrote:And why is M&B "untouchable" today?
because.

This is a town-motivated post. There is focused questioning, yet at the same time, the focus isn't too narrow.
this felt like a really poor, vapid explanation for callign it a town post. feels like u were just looking for an excuse to call it towny with ur "mmm yess it isn't toooooooooooo narrow" crap lol
In post 930, Ircher wrote:
In post 112, androgybee wrote:Nope ur wrong.

Gork is towny in opening. Your entrance involved an "ewwww" post which are seriously the most fucking stupid things I see on this site and I can't fucking stand them. Stop it. Stop it. You're not funny. You're not coy. You're not original. You're not even helpful. You're just being a fucking annoying whiney brat. Christ all fucking mighty please stop being so dumb.

You're wrong btw we're town and there was nothing even remotely scummy about posts you're trying to throw shade at so try again, freakin lamer. Or at the very least use your fucking words instead of being a total brat and just making disapproving noises.

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I find this very hypocritucal considering you made an eww post as your very first post.
even if i was being hypocritical (this was just a misunderstanding) WHAT'S UR POINT? this feels like something u threw out for 0 reason. do u think beign a hypocrite about ew posts is alignment indicative?????????????????????
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:19 pm

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like uhg i know you might still be town i just ahte that the onyl reason im considering it is because ur predecessor was so freaking towny ffs
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:20 pm

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i think ircher is townier than dav was.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:20 pm

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I'm fine with lynching Minsc or Maruchan right now.

I prob. wouldn't lynch RC, Fire, or Gork right now.

Pedit: Some things were more for lolz. I rarely point out towny stuff mainly cuz its hard to explain, but that particular post really looked townish.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:22 pm

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gork i saw u wanted more contribution from our slot ill try tonight though i do have stuff to do so we'll see if i procrastinate it or not. ii dont know. what exactly do u want from me? ask and u shall receive. sry im not being more PROACTIVE.

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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:22 pm

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I havemt seen much scumhunting this game which is part of the reason that post was considered quite townie.
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:24 pm

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In post 959, androgybee wrote:gork i saw u wanted more contribution from our slot ill try tonight though i do have stuff to do so we'll see if i procrastinate it or not. ii dont know. what exactly do u want from me? ask and u shall receive. sry im not being more PROACTIVE.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:25 pm

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I have a sudden desire not to lynch Titus and I know it's probably wrong and I know I've done this before when she's been scum and it's fucked me over

but can we lynch XK first?
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:25 pm

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In post 956, androgybee wrote:like uhg i know you might still be town i just ahte that the onyl reason im considering it is because ur predecessor was so freaking towny ffs

Also:
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:26 pm

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In post 954, Gorkington wrote:i feel like you need to take a step back and really look at the players in the game in isolation or something.
because i dont feel like youre gonna get into this by asking questions yoh.

take a hard stance on someone and push it.

you dont like minsc wagon?
okay.
is it just that theyre leaning null to you? or are you reading them as town?
are you reading the pushers as scummy?
what is it?
They are just really null. I don't see anything they've done as alignment indicative.
I'm sure there's scum on the wagon, singe it's rather null and unexplained, yet also the lead wagon with time ticking down. It also strikes me as a wagon on town because of this.
If this were a crappy wagon on scum, there would be a far larger push against it. It's weak and would be easy for them to dismantle just by making someone else look scummy. On the same note, it is a very easy wagon to blend in on, as none of the votes (that I can remember) were really any good.
*this statement requires citations


I should really parse this wagon and see what's up with it, because though they are a null read, the wagon appears to be on a town member.

Thanks Gorki!
I feel like this gave me a good place to start! :)
I needed that!


Holy fuck, like, 10 ninja's while writing that :S
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:26 pm

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In post 962, RadiantCowbells wrote:I have a sudden desire not to lynch Titus and I know it's probably wrong and I know I've done this before when she's been scum and it's fucked me over

but can we lynch XK first?

Give me a reason or two why X is scum and Ill consider it.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:27 pm

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im tempted to not be okay with any other wagon because theyre a claimed vt.
but that might be silly.
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:29 pm

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uhhhh OK this is my STANCE on PEOPLE who are IN THIS GAME I THINK

Probs town imho:
Gorkington
Roshar
Ircher
RadiantCowbells (???)

iunno:
Aristophanes
Minsc and Boo
Ranger
Maruchan
Fire Assassin
Not_Mafia

Feelin' scum i guess:
Iecerint
Xkfyu

Ircher wrote:
In post 956, androgybee wrote:like uhg i know you might still be town i just ahte that the onyl reason im considering it is because ur predecessor was so freaking towny ffs

Also:
Metadive me
fuck no
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:38 pm

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In post 966, Gorkington wrote:im tempted to not be okay with any other wagon because theyre a claimed vt.
but that might be silly.
I hate it when you take stances like this because it makes you impossible to read..
I also like when you do this because it is logical.
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:40 pm

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Ircher why?
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:43 pm

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Confirmed Town
(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
Ircher  (100%) - Role PM

Likely Town
(85%-97% Confidence)
Gork (93%) - While his early-game and late-game are imo "meh", I see a lot of effort and scumhunting from this slot. His push on Fire is imo iffy, but I think he genuinely thought Fire was scum. He also has a bit broader perspective than I originally thought.
Fire (86%) - The Gork vs Fire really reads TvT to me. Furthermore, his disappointment at RC and Ranger entering the game does not read to me as "oh no, they're gonna catch me!"

Leaning Town
(60%-84% Confidence)
Roshar (69%) - The few times he does chip in are generally informative and I see town-motivation in the posts.
Not Mafia (71%) - His early game play read as fairly townie to me, but now he seems to just be lurking all day long.

Null
(0% - 30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
RC (0%) - This guy's always unsortable. I'll guage by who he lynches.
Ice (-5%) - I'll try to look at this guy again later. Last time, I ended up with a almost completely null iso, so leaning very slightly towards scum here.

Neutral
(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read)
Aristo (+35%) - Meh. Would like more.
X (-40%) - Tbh, I don't really understand the scumread here. A lot of this slot's stuff is null imho.
Ranger (+32%) - Smudger was awful (no offense). Chamber seemed to generate a lot of fluff after looking through the ISO. Ranger has kinda redeemed this slot, but still could go either way here.

Leaning Scum
(60%-75% Confidence)
Andro (-62%) - This slot is meh and needs to contribute more rather than cause drama all day long.

Likely Scum
(76%-100% Confidence)
Maruchan (-81%) - OMGUS! But seriously, your tunnel on me is rather ridiculous and you need to broaden your horizons a lot. This extremely narrow focus is indicative of either bad townplay or scumplay imo.
Minsc (-83%) - Many minor things here and there rub me the wrong way. Furthermore, I see a lack of effort from this slot which further suggests scum.
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:44 pm

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In post 969, Not_Mafia wrote:Ircher why?

Why what? You have to specify your context!
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:53 pm

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i dont cause drama....

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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:56 pm

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please replace me. sorry ether.
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:57 pm

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VOTE: Maruchan

Kinda would like this lynch better though.
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