Mini 1784: Mafia Z – Game Over

[SirCakez]

I never wanted a PL on you, I only wanted to start lynching you when you didn't start doing anything after you dropped your trolling. And yeah my play's been passive but so has everyone else's. The game is very very slow.

[Killthestory]

After I stopped joking you wanted to lynch me? Why not during, when I had an equal amount of content?

[SirCakez]

Because I figured you would actually start doing something after you stopped shitting around

[Killthestory]

So why did you immediately assume it was a post restriction then, or I was a jester instead?

And why wouldn't you call me out while I was shitting around to get me to do something faster?

[SirCakez]

Those were theories as to why you were doing it
And I did call you out

[Untrod Tripod]

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[zakk]

VOTE COUNT 2.9

SirCakez [4] [L-1]

– RadiantCowbells, Untrod Tripod, Killthestory, yessiree bob

Killthestory [1]

– SirCakez

Dystopian Vision [1]

– Fate

Fate [1]

– ɀefiend

[SirCakez]

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[Untrod Tripod]

do you want to claim or something?

[SirCakez]

No one gave intent but I'll claim
Melanie Castro, VT

[ɀefiend]

@yessiree, can you explain your thought development from voting KTS to voting SirCakez? I'm interested because they're scumreading each other currently.

@SirCakez, why do you think RC's vote on you is a PL?

@Fate, in a tiny game like this I do not find your reasoning that you were unaware of me adequate. Also, even if I were an alt slip or hydra slip, that does not justify trying to side step my suspicion. I can understand a rage post when it is genuine. However, I suspect that yours was not genuine. You are asking me to entertain a scenario where you misread the thread, believed that a player like UT made an egregious blunder, posted an outburst, and then, in a time span of THREE MINUTES, reread the thread, and posted an "oh nvm." I find it much more likely that you simply fabricated the reaction. So from my perspective, you are either playing haphazardly or disingenuously.

[SirCakez]

maybe if you weren't scum aligned regardless of alignment people would have an incentive to keep you alive.

Because of this

[ɀefiend]

Maybe I should ISO dive you, then. If you weren't opposed to a KTS PL, are you saying RC's PL on you has no merit?

[RadiantCowbells]

v/la 2 days.

[Fate]

what the fuck is this

[Fate]

This type of wagon really should go onto Kill, but DYSTOPIAN VISION NEVER HAS STOPPED BEING SCUM PEOPLE

[Killthestory]

ur bad

[Fate]

Well I like you for town zefiend, thanks for elaborating on your thought process.

I used to have a meta built up so people let me do whatever I want but now that thats gone I guess it has to be restablish.

If I have a reaction I have to post it, it just comes out, its how I show what is happening internally and that lets people read me correct me.

Then yes I did go back and re-read because no one seemed to be reacting to UT's post in the way I would expect for what I thought it was. I don't understand why the speed of my reading and posting comes as a surprise/scummy to you?

[Fate]

yessiree bob's vote is awful too

[ɀefiend]

Can you present your case against DV again? The exchange with him is too scattered to make sense as is.

[Fate]

Its been mostly gut and since RC is a fellow gut player who sees the same thing I've felt that confirms what I'm feeling

as for a coherent case...

[Fate]

Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip

Mostly the read of UT as werewolf just seems fabricated and BS. I've said this before but it doesn't feel like a natural at all read to have. Itlepip puts someone at L-1 and UT immediately comes in and tries to pain the wagon on mafia guy as RVS and start a REAL one on his partner? Just seems like something they made up without thinking it through to have a read today.

Their exchange with RC was also off, and then they go on to vote ME because they didn't like how I was pushing UT? Like where did there read on UT go? They are just conveniently swapping votes with reasons on the spot, its scum behavior. The dissonance between the heads in thread is even more of a reason for them to be able to move their vote around conveniently.

[Fate]

I should be clear I also think DV is Werewolf because thats where I think the UT read came up with. Like a sort of "lets pretend to start looking for a werewolf, because thats what the last werewolf definitely WOULDNT do right?" tactic

[SirCakez]

Maybe I should ISO dive you, then. If you weren't opposed to a KTS PL, are you saying RC's PL on you has no merit?

I didn't want a KTS PL, I've said this before. So yes I think PLs are shitty ideas.

[SirCakez]

I feel like yessirree Bob might be scum though. The sheeping of both wagons without other contributions looks awful.