Mini 1784: Mafia Z – Game Over


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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:33 am

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that's a complete mischaracterization of my position.

I'm not voting because I want a flip, I'm voting him BECAUSE I THINK HE'S SCUM
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:04 am

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Flub wants you to explain why you don't believe the fact that cakez was speedwagoned somehow makes him more likely to be town.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:07 am

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there's almost definitely only one more scum left on each team so that eliminates the possibility of a scum-driven speedwagon....
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:08 am

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and that's irrelevant to me because I have a scumread on SC so I want him to die

scum was speedwagoned on D1, I don't see how a fast wagon is necessarily going to be on town now?
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:47 am

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SirCakez, can you tell me why you keep sticking me as scum? You do realize I've had ample time to casually hammer you, right?

Anyway, time to move my vote away from Fate. I actually liked the responses I got from him. VOTE: yessiree bob
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:46 am

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In post 285, ɀefiend wrote:@yessiree, can you explain your thought development from voting KTS to voting SirCakez? I'm interested because they're scumreading each other currently.

we've been scumreading cakes for quite some time

we didn't pursue or mention it because we wanted to finish our UT push first

I think the discussion on cakes started with yessiree saying that if UT really was blocked, the RB was probably on his wagon since they'd believe they blocked the kill, and that sircakez was most likely to be this RB

I mostly agreed, but added that it is quite likely that the roleblocker is a town jk/rb since town hardly has a majority (we'd discussed numbers just before that)

we also agreed that cakes was shifty in general

as for the kts vote, I'm pretty sure yessiree just felt like voting someone, he doesn't care that much for following MS's voting etiquette
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:55 am

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In post 355, yessiree bob wrote:I think the discussion on cakes started with yessiree saying that if UT really was blocked, the RB was probably on his wagon since they'd believe they blocked the kill

btw I later realised that this is only true if the kill that was stopped wasn't the roleblocker's, but I don't think I mentioned that
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:36 am

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In post 354, ɀefiend wrote:SirCakez, can you tell me why you keep sticking me as scum? You do realize I've had ample time to casually hammer you, right?

Because you're coasting. You've made little to no impact on the game with your posts.
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I think the discussion on cakes started with yessiree saying that if UT really was blocked, the RB was probably on his wagon since they'd believe they blocked the kill, and that sircakez was most likely to be this RB

I mostly agreed, but added that it is quite likely that the roleblocker is a town jk/rb since town hardly has a majority (we'd discussed numbers just before that)

we also agreed that cakes was shifty in general

So your scumread on me is based on you thinking the possible rber was on the chilledtea wagon and that I'm shifty in general? You have to unpack that more.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:29 am

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In post 352, Untrod Tripod wrote:there's almost definitely only one more scum left on each team so that eliminates the possibility of a scum-driven speedwagon....

I don't see how. An opportunistic lynch benefits both scum factions.
In post 353, Untrod Tripod wrote:and that's irrelevant to me because I have a scumread on SC so I want him to die

scum was speedwagoned on D1, I don't see how a fast wagon is necessarily going to be on town now?

Well like you said, there's probably only one scum in each team. So if the wagon is on scum, it's going to be slower because there's only one scum that can contribute to it.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:29 am

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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:31 am

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I like zfiend for scum

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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:52 pm

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In post 357, SirCakez wrote:So your scumread on me is based on you thinking the possible rber was on the chilledtea wagon and that I'm shifty in general? You have to unpack that more.

You'll have to take gut for an answer for now. I mentioned the rb thing mostly because it was part of the process zef was asking about.

zef side is six years old
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:56 pm

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In post 347, Dystopian Vision wrote:Oh flub mentioned something about reads list

Cakey - Town (way he reacted to me pushing him being not mafia was townie)
Fate - Lean town but little minor nag doubts
UT - Not WW, maybe maf, given he's not ww most likely little desire to lynch
I like Bob on a gut level. Different from his scum game but it's ancient

RC is scum.

That's where I am at.

these reads are absolutely terrible
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:01 pm

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then vote her.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:02 pm

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bad reads dont necessarily equal scum

VOTE: RC the fuck dude
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:03 pm

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why are there so many people on this forum who are literal cancer?
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:05 pm

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lol dude i use ad hominem in my scum game too, works only on players who arent sensitive little shit. otherwise people will see right through that ruse lad
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:06 pm

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Fate, vote DV with me.
Everyone else will fall into line eventually.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:09 pm

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lol now we're trying the sheep me and win tactic.

how much you gonna flip flop on strategies before you give up?
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:37 pm

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In post 357, SirCakez wrote:
In post 354, ɀefiend wrote:SirCakez, can you tell me why you keep sticking me as scum? You do realize I've had ample time to casually hammer you, right?

Because you're coasting. You've made little to no impact on the game with your posts.

I guess, if generating discussion and reads is little to no impact.

Dystopian Vision wrote:I like zfiend for scum

-flub

Why?

yessiree bob wrote:
In post 285, ɀefiend wrote:@yessiree, can you explain your thought development from voting KTS to voting SirCakez? I'm interested because they're scumreading each other currently.

we've been scumreading cakes for quite some time

we didn't pursue or mention it because we wanted to finish our UT push first

I think the discussion on cakes started with yessiree saying that if UT really was blocked, the RB was probably on his wagon since they'd believe they blocked the kill, and that sircakez was most likely to be this RB

I mostly agreed, but added that it is quite likely that the roleblocker is a town jk/rb since town hardly has a majority (we'd discussed numbers just before that)

we also agreed that cakes was shifty in general

as for the kts vote, I'm pretty sure yessiree just felt like voting someone, he doesn't care that much for following MS's voting etiquette

Oh I forgot that you were a hydra.

Well I guess that explains the misplaced kts vote. I'll move you back to null for now.

VOTE: Radiant Cowbells start making meaningful cases or at least explaining your thought process please.
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:44 pm

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hell no.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:52 pm

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RC you are my spiritual successor. The mindset of "we can lynch easy scum later when I'm gone" is something I've said verbatim many times, so that's erased any doubt I had in you
Unvote:
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:53 pm

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The RC wagon is making really regret not hammering Sir Cakez who is a less valuable townie
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:57 pm

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In post 354, ɀefiend wrote:SirCakez, can you tell me why you keep sticking me as scum? You do realize I've had ample time to casually hammer you, right?

Anyway, time to move my vote away from Fate. I actually liked the responses I got from him. VOTE: yessiree bob


can we go back to doing this if DV still doesn't get any traction
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:58 pm

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In post 362, Killthestory wrote:
In post 347, Dystopian Vision wrote:Oh flub mentioned something about reads list

Cakey - Town (way he reacted to me pushing him being not mafia was townie)
Fate - Lean town but little minor nag doubts
UT - Not WW, maybe maf, given he's not ww most likely little desire to lynch
I like Bob on a gut level. Different from his scum game but it's ancient

RC is scum.

That's where I am at.

these reads are absolutely terrible


well hey there's this wagon on DV I'd like to invite you to join
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