Mini 1784: Mafia Z – Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

No, apparently KTS thinks her reads are bad but she's town in spite of it and votes me for asking him to vote her for having bad reads because apparently I was supposed to know he meant bad scumhunting as opposed to scummy.

And I'd vastly prefer KTS not be on the lynch wagon for personal satisfaction reasons.

[Fate]

yeah I read that after and just facepalmed

still don't know what to say to that

[Fate]

zefiend is the worst vote on RC though in terms of scumminess

[RadiantCowbells]

It feels like it's meant to be a safe opening and get left there until I get lynched since the wagon looked like it had momentum.

Not derailing from Titus at this time though.

[Fate]

I think that gives him way too much credit

[Fate]

I mean it looked natural as a vote even if it was naturally bad if that makes sense

[RadiantCowbells]

I just don't like the whole putting me to L-2 thing as a request for more info.

Especially since I'm highly liable to give less, not more info when I'm under pressure.

[Fate]

oh are you talking about zefiends or Kills

because Zefiends is scum as fuck yeah

[RadiantCowbells]

378 and 381 were regarding Zefiends, yeah.

[ɀefiend]

I'm using my vote as pressure towards whoever is most deserving of it at the time. That happens to be you, RC. Deal with it, or don't. If you don't reply to the pressure at all or do anything else productive, I'm more than happy leaving my vote on you.

[Fate]

That post is ironic as hell given your relative contributions to this game

[ɀefiend]

I'm trying to be part of the action as much as possible, actually. Where do you see my contributions lacking?

[ɀefiend]

SirCakez, can you tell me why you keep sticking me as scum? You do realize I've had ample time to casually hammer you, right?

Anyway, time to move my vote away from Fate. I actually liked the responses I got from him. VOTE: yessiree bob

can we go back to doing this if DV still doesn't get any traction

First I would like you to explain why you're sheeping RC. RC doesn't get a free pass in my book. yessiree bob is null for me at the moment and therefore I'm directing my attention elsewhere.

I still need to hear from DV directly, too.

[RadiantCowbells]

'doesn't get a free pass'?

You've not said a fucking thing about why you're scumreading me except that you want more explanations from me, which you're sure as hell not getting while I'm at L-2.

[Fate]

I've explained my own continued discomfort with DV's slot. RC and I are probably on the same length because we both approach the game in similar ways and are town

I don't see where you're coming from when RC's stances on people have been very clear this game.

It just seems like you're using a playstyle difference "he doesn't explain his reads in the way I want" as an excuse to vote him to L-2 and that's just bullshit

[ɀefiend]

'doesn't get a free pass'?

You've not said a fucking thing about why you're scumreading me except that you want more explanations from me, which you're sure as hell not getting while I'm at L-2.

I never said I was scum reading you. I'm voting you because I believe you deserve the most pressure to produce real content right now.

Your vote on SC had no reasoning besides "I'm not town reading him." Not good enough.

Your "case" on DV, as far as I can read, is based on speculating what his reaction should or shouldn't be to your early vote. This happened several days ago. Since then you have not expounded on anything or developed anything new or meaningful. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[RadiantCowbells]

I would rather get lynched then produce content because of your pressure.

[ɀefiend]

I've explained my own continued discomfort with DV's slot. RC and I are probably on the same length because we both approach the game in similar ways and are town

I don't see where you're coming from when RC's stances on people have been very clear this game.

It just seems like you're using a playstyle difference "he doesn't explain his reads in the way I want" as an excuse to vote him to L-2 and that's just bullshit

Stance may be clear but thought process is not.

L-2 is irrelevant to me. I would vote him alone and I would vote him to L-1; it doesn't matter to me as long as he acknowledges it. Which he has, so I am making baby steps of progress at least.

[yessiree bob]

So your scumread on me is based on you thinking the possible rber was on the chilledtea wagon and that I'm shifty in general? You have to unpack that more.

just dropping by to say that we pretty much agreed on scumreading you the instant it was brought up, it was like telepathy

the general sentiment is that, during the first 10 pages, your shiftiness pinged us, you were trying to look busy without actually doing anything, just remaining on the edge of the conversations without taking hard stances

too lazy to quote and shit but if you read cakez' ISO you will know what we're talking about

also v/la until 25th

-y

[Fate]

zefiend thats the most dissonance I've seen in awhile.

RC's vote on Cakez because he isn't townreading him is no good

but you're free to vote RC to get a read on him? Using "oh I just want to see more about his alignment I'm not scum reading him"

I'm starting to think there are 5 scum somehow

[SirCakez]

VOTE: zefiend
RC vote was terrible. Claiming he generated reads and discussion earlier is also terrible.

[Untrod Tripod]

jesus tapdancing christ

[yessiree bob]

I'm pretty sure zef can be figured out by skimming one of his town games and one of his scum games

who feels like doing some meta-shallow-diving?

[yessiree bob]

also kts what happened to "no way this sc's town game"?

[ɀefiend]

zefiend thats the most dissonance I've seen in awhile.

RC's vote on Cakez because he isn't townreading him is no good

but you're free to vote RC to get a read on him? Using "oh I just want to see more about his alignment I'm not scum reading him"

I'm starting to think there are 5 scum somehow

I don't have any intention of actually lynching RC, yet. In fact, although I would have been fine with a Cakez flip, I just simply didn't want the day to end so early. There is more information to be extracted.

Sorry if using my vote in unconventional manner bothers you.