Mini 1790: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Rose Quartz]

^ RC.

[Ranger]

-Pretty much content less day 1 reads were never explained.

I was never asked.

This still stands

...And is a point for why I'm town. You said it yourself. It doesn't take a genius to know heuristically_alone wasn't getting lynched. The town motivation for jumping on there is to go for the hell of it. The scum motivation for jumping on there is...what, exactly?
It doesn't take a genius to know Brian Skies was getting lynched. The town motivation for joining the inevitable wagon is...what, exactly? To wag your dick around and say "I was there, nyeh!"? No thanks. (Besides, wrong body parts.) The scum motivation for joining the inevitable wagon is the hope that being on the lynch gains town credit.

I actually read nosf serious push as better because you can tell nos means it.

...Which is what I was saying? You called my answer BS, but your posting is saying my behavior is exactly what I was describing in my answer. I joined the heuristically_alone wagon. Known fact. I did not put any effort into it. Known fact. It was done spur of the moment. Known fact.

Also if the push wasn't serious why would you even do it when you had a wagon that you were already scum reading on there?

Because I felt like it. I felt like voting heuristically_alone. I felt heuristically_alone could be scum, so voting there was something I saw as harmless.

@Garmr
in the past when defending yourself as scum, you tend to flail around and make a big fuss, using strong language. If you really were town, there would be no point to how you responded for Ranger's rattling and jargon. If you are so confident in Ranger's flip, then you have nothing to worry about. Do you have anything to worry about?

^This is accurate as well.

[Ranger]

It was at deadline, so I don't see how hammering scum at deadline is a scum move.

My mistake. Got my Ma-username players mixed up.

Still think the point holds as a general tell though.

why did you go from scum to town on heuristic.

Well one reason I didn't like heuristically_alone was tojam's replace out post. On a reread, I actually felt it was town. Another reason I didn't like heuristically_alone was the fence-sitting, like in 194 and 195. I also thought 219 was fake.

That changed when seeing his D2 posting. For a start, not hammering me, and putting some rudimentary (albeit not very refined) analysis. The attitude in 356 and 357 was great. It was at this point I started my reread, and then I looked at his posting again: while hilariously a bad stance, I loved on a reread his immediate hard push on beeboy. When rereading 195, though a fence-sit, the position held was well-reasoned and thought out. 196 contains an unusual stance that Cabd might be scum. Again a fence-sit, but it's a fence-sit on a player literally nobody else was talking about...in other words, he was actually

looking

at Cabd, even if he didn't make any hard conclusions, something no other player was doing. This, again, is indicative of town behavior. 218, while again something I disagree with, is made on a solid basis: beeboy

was

the only one of the four voters at the time to have no given reasoning, and heuristically_alone catching that detail and pursuing it is something I don't think a scum player would do. This is further backed up by 230. He even says he believes in making the cases in 232, again consistent with his own behavior. I like the snark of 242 as well.

All-in-all, heuristically_alone, as a fairly new player, is of course not an easy read...but this very strongly looks like newb-town to me rather than newb-scum.

[Ranger]

Radiant cowbells did nothing in this game. why should he be dead?!

Because it'd be an insult to his competency if I, as scum, decided that he was unworthy of being the N1 nightkill...and, ironically enough, specifically

thanks to

him doing nothing, he'd be wide open to it.

you simply just tried to make the lynch on Ranger imminent to save yourself from later conflicts. "lets review why we were scumreading Ranger" show is just a prove for your desperation. meta reads worth nothing of value on their own but if their confirming a case their not bs. Ranger pointing your meta out is not scummy and its definietly not bs. its a valid point about your personality which make sense this game. and in last of this post your saying you want to show yourself confident enough to assure people will follow you. guess what. I'm not a follower.

Oh Frozen Angel my dear, you truly are an actual angel now. Please let this side of you continue existing and don't let your emotions get the better of you, because I

like

this analytical, solid play side of you.

[Garmr]

I'm tempted to copy and paste my role pm so I could fuck you all over for doubting me probably would get me banned but after this game I'm going to take a break from mafia because of how retarded you guys have been. I fucking pushed hard to get brian lynched I stopped that wagon from derailing.

[Garmr]

and you call it bussing I was the fucking second vote on the wagon.

[Garmr]

Also neck your heur saying i tend to insult people when i'm scum and about to get lynched. In the past couple of games as scum I have fucking congratulated the town and told them they have done a good job for catching me everyone is so fucking retarded trying to use meta and getting it wrong.

[Garmr]

Like you are the absolute bottom of the barrel of all mafia players it's fucking obvious I am town.

[Garmr]

Like every single recent game as town the town have been retarded when it comes to dealing with me.

[Ranger]

Just look at this
This isn't town

Gonna need to explain that to me because I see that as null at

worst

.

I am going to role claim since we only have one day left I am the cop I investigated nos last night he came back town.

So.

Remember the full text for Brian Skies's Godfather role?
It said "you are immune to investigation roles" (which is very generic: what counts as an investigation role? Hider? Tracker? Rolecop? Gunsmith? Neapolitan? Vanilla Cop? Watcher? The only role which is firmly 100% an investigation role is a Cop), meaning

any

investigation role could exist.
But, critically, it

also

said Brian Skies was immune to nightkills, implying we have some sort of vig. (This is, under no circumstances, meant to be asking a vig to come forward. Quite the opposite, stay silent!)
So, basically, I don't think Garmr's actually a cop. And if any of those roles exist and claim, I'd lynch him. I think, given the scum lynch D1 and how if Garmr's claim isn't true we'd get a scum lynch D2 leaving us with only one scum left, it would be worth it to claim if you have a role that could be classified as investigative. (If a vig, just shoot Garmr at night. Just as scum aren't gonna have a second investigation-immune member, they're not gonna have a second nightkill-immune member.)

However

, if nobody comes forward and counterclaims, the objectively-correct play is to not lynch him. I'm like 90% sure he's scum. However, on D2, after we've lynched a Godfather, if he doesn't receive a counterclaim of

some

kind, I'm not willing to risk lynching a cop claim.

VOTE: Maestro.

[Garmr]

Just look at this
This isn't town

Gonna need to explain that to me because I see that as null at

worst

.

I am going to role claim since we only have one day left I am the cop I investigated nos last night he came back town.

So.

Remember the full text for Brian Skies's Godfather role?
It said "you are immune to investigation roles" (which is very generic: what counts as an investigation role? Hider? Tracker? Rolecop? Gunsmith? Neapolitan? Vanilla Cop? Watcher? The only role which is firmly 100% an investigation role is a Cop), meaning

any

investigation role could exist.
But, critically, it

also

said Brian Skies was immune to nightkills, implying we have some sort of vig. (This is, under no circumstances, meant to be asking a vig to come forward. Quite the opposite, stay silent!)
So, basically, I don't think Garmr's actually a cop. And if any of those roles exist and claim, I'd lynch him. I think, given the scum lynch D1 and how if Garmr's claim isn't true we'd get a scum lynch D2 leaving us with only one scum left, it would be worth it to claim if you have a role that could be classified as investigative. (If a vig, just shoot Garmr at night. Just as scum aren't gonna have a second investigation-immune member, they're not gonna have a second nightkill-immune member.)

However

, if nobody comes forward and counterclaims, the objectively-correct play is to not lynch him. I'm like 90% sure he's scum. However, on D2, after we've lynched a Godfather, if he doesn't receive a counterclaim of

some

kind, I'm not willing to risk lynching a cop claim.

VOTE: Maestro.

Look at this fucking bitch she asking a vig to shoot a claimed cop and you call that town. Seriously you are all fucking retarded

[Garmr]

do you even fucking play mafia watcher tracker, role cop, gunsmith and hider will all catch godfather you can't be that fucking dumb.

[Ranger]

I think you are scum trying to get a cop to CC claim you.

And if so...we let the cop CC him. We get two scum lynches in a row, and even if the last scum is some sort of uber-role like a roleblocker or a strongman...we've got two dead scum.

If no cop CCs, he is still likely scum because that simply means we have some other type of investigative PR in the game. But if that investigative PR doesn't CC, I'm not lynching him today. Because, again, same logic: if we have a CC, we get two scum lynches in a row: this is worth it no matter what. If we don't get a CC, if the investigative PR is silent or nonexistent, we don't lynch him and we look for scum elsewhere.

[Garmr]

Like she wants to stop me investigating.

[Garmr]

Like how can you all be that fucking retarded to not see that she is actually scum.

[Garmr]

I'm like at my limit with this game

[Ranger]

Like she wants to stop me investigating.

To the contrary.

What I'm saying is that if there's a vig in the game, there's not also going to be a cop in the game, so if a vig exists, they can effectively choose to CC you with a bullet.

[Garmr]

Ranger

fucking tried to stop a brian lynch
brian made a point against her never placed a serious vote down on her or beeboy despite that.

Bee boy is probably scum as well due to brian pushing him but refusing to vote no matter the circumstances.


THIS GAME IS FUCKING SIMPLE HOW CAN YOU ALL NOT SEE IT.


@ranger

Are you fucking Kidding me a godfather confirms a cop since cop is the only fucking role it stops from investigation.

LEARN TO PLAY MAFIA

[Garmr]

I have been trying lately to hold back my anger when playing this game I tried to be nice but seriously the stupidity of this game.

[Rose Quartz]

he was a bulletproof ninja godfather. a role that stop any investigations and a vigilant

Your not a confirmed cop by that flip . not even close

~FA

[Garmr]

Also cop plus vig is viable if there is no dr.

[Garmr]

Oh shut up fa you never been good as town in any of my games.

[Rose Quartz]

oh really?

[Garmr]

you know no one will counter claim because I am the cop.

[Garmr]

and yes really