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Post Post #2375 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2016 2:14 pm

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In post 2374, KuroiXHF wrote:Even though I suggested to vote inactive people to move the game forward?
I mean, that's not the worst suggestion really.
I'm not sure why everyone is all over you atm.
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Post Post #2376 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2016 3:30 pm

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@Kuroi

You say to vote for inactive folk, does that mean you would support DGB's death tunnel wagon on the non existent slot of Yume?
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Post Post #2377 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2016 3:34 pm

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In post 2376, RachMarie wrote:@Kuroi

You say to vote for inactive folk, does that mean you would support DGB's death tunnel wagon on the non existent slot of Yume?
I don't support it.
I don't support voting anyone other than scum.
But I support moving the game forward and if voting for someone I'm not certain is scum leads us to finding scum, then I'll do it.

I want the game to move forward, and it's not.
And waiting to find players to be replaced is not happening, then we're fighting against the clock with no-lynches but with scum killing someone during the day.

So we could kill an inactive and destroy the non-replaceable slot or we give a free kill to scum.

See my process here? The process that's bringing me to L-closetolynch?
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Post Post #2378 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2016 3:38 pm

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Well since there is a vig, another possibility is the vig to shoot Yume.

But, in that case why are you voting Kill? Especially since it looks rather OMGUS style when you voted him?
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Post Post #2379 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2016 3:40 pm

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Killthestory is very AtE-sy, so I got distracted.

VOTE: Yume

Although I still do want to vote KTS.

And I'd rather the vig kill someone they think is scum. At the end of the day, vig, if you want to kill me, do it.
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Post Post #2380 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2016 4:37 pm

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Deadline is going to extend for three days until after we find the last replacement. I refuse to let the inactivity fester
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Post Post #2381 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2016 11:01 pm

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I will be much more active right now, so I am going to go through this game day see if anything pings me and go back look at flips again.

There was like 3 kills right?
So Vigi and SK? W/e?

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Post Post #2382 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2016 11:59 pm

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In post 2381, Firebringer wrote:I will be much more active right now, so I am going to go through this game day see if anything pings me and go back look at flips again.

There was like 3 kills right?
So Vigi and SK? W/e?

I don't know, I WILL BE MORE INTO THIS GAME I PROMISE YOU ALL!
That's the assumed setup atm.

Looking forward to the input! :)
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Post Post #2383 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 2:37 am

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Why Yume over ilikebugs?

ilikebugs has been inactive longer. Neither of them posted much to read them from. It feels like people are giving bugs a pass because he claimed VT early, but if it's that easy, scum would do it every game! And then people are suspicious of Yume because she has posted elsewhere while flaking here, but if that's such an obvious tell, why the hell would scum do it?

Voting either makes zero sense to me. Lynching anyone until we have replacements makes zero sense (and, yes, I am voting Aristo but I wouldn't want the lynch until the replaces). On a site that has a replace system, all this talk of lynching/vigging inactives makes me suspicious of those asking for it. DGB was tunneling Yume before she flaked, but the rest of the "why not Yume?" mob just look like they want an easy target.
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Post Post #2384 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 5:35 am

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Have I mentioned my scumread on KAAG yet?
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Post Post #2385 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 6:31 am

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Sorry don't have much time today. Might be able to post properly later will have a quick read now though.
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Post Post #2386 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 6:41 am

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In post 2383, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:ilikebugs has been inactive longer. Neither of them posted much to read them from. It feels like people are giving bugs a pass because he claimed VT early, but if it's that easy, scum would do it every game! And then people are suspicious of Yume because she has posted elsewhere while flaking here, but if that's such an obvious tell, why the hell would scum do it?
If you claim VT everygame it is a nulltell hence you can't do that in the longrun with any benefits. Claiming VT as a newbie (under no pressure) is very town.

You are right about posting elsewhere though.
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Post Post #2387 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 6:58 am

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In post 2386, Slandaar wrote:
In post 2383, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:ilikebugs has been inactive longer. Neither of them posted much to read them from. It feels like people are giving bugs a pass because he claimed VT early, but if it's that easy, scum would do it every game! And then people are suspicious of Yume because she has posted elsewhere while flaking here, but if that's such an obvious tell, why the hell would scum do it?
If you claim VT everygame it is a nulltell hence you can't do that in the longrun with any benefits. Claiming VT as a newbie (under no pressure) is very town.

You are right about posting elsewhere though.
One of his scum mates could have advised him to because people town read it.
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Post Post #2388 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 9:47 am

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In post 2383, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:rest of the "why not Yume?" mob just look like they want an easy target.
What mob??????

LOL that's like, no one but me
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Post Post #2389 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 9:49 am

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In post 2383, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:Yume because she has posted elsewhere while flaking here, but if that's such an obvious tell, why the hell would scum do it?
OMG

Who said it's an "obvious tell," scum, if it was that obvious I wouldn't have such a hard time convincing people to lynch an abject lurker.

You're my next tunnel. You should definitely NK me. Don't let the WIFOM stop you.
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Post Post #2390 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 1:49 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2383, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:Yume because she has posted elsewhere while flaking here, but if that's such an obvious tell, why the hell would scum do it?
OMG

Who said it's an "obvious tell," scum, if it was that obvious I wouldn't have such a hard time convincing people to lynch an abject lurker.

You're my next tunnel. You should definitely NK me. Don't let the WIFOM stop you.
The whole point was that it most certainly ISN'T an obvious tell, that it is in fact not a scum tell at all, and we should not be voting it. I thought that was clear.

Regarding the mob comment:
In post 2368, KuroiXHF wrote:
In post 2358, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:
In post 2341, KuroiXHF wrote:Also, yeah. I was willing to lynch someone possibly without regard to alignment. It would tell us a lot about a couple of players, especially Goofball. It would also get the game going because the game is comatose.

You should at least thank me for putting a shock and putting it into rhythm, albeit a weak one.
Are you trying to defend the fact that you want to do something obviously scummy? Why would you lynch someone without regards to alignment? It's D4, you must have at least one scum read.
I do have scum reads. Others had scum reads. We all explained ours and yet, the game was in stagnation. I want the game to move forward and I weighed the options. Still, I moved forward.

Do you think ilovebugs and Yume will be replaced?

Soon?

Ever?
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In post 2374, KuroiXHF wrote:Even though I suggested to vote inactive people to move the game forward?
I mean, that's not the worst suggestion really.
I'm not sure why everyone is all over you atm.
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You say to vote for inactive folk, does that mean you would support DGB's death tunnel wagon on the non existent slot of Yume?
Regrettably your nonsense tell is getting traction, or at least discussed. It's just bloody impatience not to wait for the replaces. Both slots are entirely null.
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Post Post #2391 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 4:07 pm

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It's been a month. This goes beyond impatience.

KAAG and a replace-slot are prolly scummates.
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Post Post #2392 (ISO) » Sun May 29, 2016 12:08 am

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I'm saying what most people are thinking: that's why there's hardly any posts or votes. We're all waiting for the replaces (well, except DGB) but I'm articulating it.

That's scummy how? We've mislynched 3 times, I don't see how our chances improve when we vote null slots.

Why are you so sure there's 2 scum on the same team left anyway? :?
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Post Post #2393 (ISO) » Sun May 29, 2016 1:09 am

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Why? Because given the option of speculation between SK and Multiball, I always assume SK unless I am given reason to believe otherwise.this means, in a game of 21, 4 scum and an SK is reasonible and is my assumption.
What leaves you unconvinced here?
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Post Post #2394 (ISO) » Sun May 29, 2016 1:13 am

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Also, VOTE: Yume
You're right, the game is stalling.
Let's get movement t so we can progress.

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Under normal circumstances, I would be fighting against this as slots in a limbo can neither defend the selves nor claim. However, this is an extreme case and I cannot justify staying off it anymore.

The vig should have shot here a long time ago (unless they are a 1-shot, in which case, thanks for hitting scum with it!)
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Post Post #2395 (ISO) » Sun May 29, 2016 11:31 am

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In post 2383, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:Why Yume over ilikebugs?

ilikebugs has been inactive longer. Neither of them posted much to read them from. It feels like people are giving bugs a pass because he claimed VT early, but if it's that easy, scum would do it every game! And then people are suspicious of Yume because she has posted elsewhere while flaking here, but if that's such an obvious tell, why the hell would scum do it?

Voting either makes zero sense to me. Lynching anyone until we have replacements makes zero sense (and, yes, I am voting Aristo but I wouldn't want the lynch until the replaces). On a site that has a replace system, all this talk of lynching/vigging inactives makes me suspicious of those asking for it. DGB was tunneling Yume before she flaked, but the rest of the "why not Yume?" mob just look like they want an easy target.
As I've said before, killing Yume would tell us information about DrippingGoofball. Killing Ilikebugs tells us... nothing.
If Yume is town, it tells us Goofball is likely scum.
If Yume is scum, Goofball is more likely to be town.
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Post Post #2396 (ISO) » Sun May 29, 2016 11:32 am

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And if DGB suddenly ascends, she was lyncher :P
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Post Post #2397 (ISO) » Sun May 29, 2016 1:41 pm

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In post 2395, KuroiXHF wrote:If Yume is town, it tells us Goofball is likely scum.
If Yume is scum, Goofball is more likely to be town.
That is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad LOL
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Post Post #2398 (ISO) » Sun May 29, 2016 1:50 pm

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In post 2397, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2395, KuroiXHF wrote:If Yume is town, it tells us Goofball is likely scum.
If Yume is scum, Goofball is more likely to be town.
That is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad LOL
He's supporting a Yume lynch.
Just go with it! Lol
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Post Post #2399 (ISO) » Sun May 29, 2016 1:51 pm

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In post 2397, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2395, KuroiXHF wrote:If Yume is town, it tells us Goofball is likely scum.
If Yume is scum, Goofball is more likely to be town.
That is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad LOL
No. This brings about a good question.
Are you willing to risk the noose that Yume is scum?
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