Mini 1796 | May 13th - Game over (Tomato Mafia wins)

[Dunnstral]

Dunn's town leadership? What are you smoking?

[inspectorscout]

Ok niceee ive got some time

town

Dunn: hes actively contributing, his points seem pretty valid (and is one of the only that doesnt try to make bad jokes) however i do not agree hes 'town leader' because he is just finishing off discussions instead of starting them, nobody is leading this rn

nulltown

Transcend: like, you're readin the same way and you try to contribute. And that 'heavy non game related shit posts' just seems a way to avoid good reasoning and vote him. Still not convinced cuz u seem to buddying dunn and me, and thats slightly scummy

null

Raskol: everyone thought he was scummy, ranted about some emotional stuff and suddenly considered town. Have a bad feeling about that, but his later contributions seem town, so ill keep him at null

Kushmountain: what do u expect he posted once

Tommy: lel


Yah everyone i didnt mention is here too because they didnt post enough yet or just cuz i have absolutely no idea about them yet

nullscum

Drmy:his 'this is scum claim' was pretty ehhh suspicious and i dunno but to me it seemed like he wanted to bait me into a discussion about that. Not as much scum as the others but still (oh and adding exclamation marks 'town wouldnt even think to post that!' just make ur posts seem fake, just sayin)

Zach: tells seem rather forced and farfetched and i still hate his attitude, either he loves memes or hes just trying to spread a shitload of mist + lol my opinions are almost the same as dunn's yet u dont value his opinions WHILE you said u townread him

Yoshi: i still dont get transcend wagon, his reaction to triv was pretty weird , reads are kinda farfetched too. Still unsure about this one tho

[Zachstralkita]

Zach: tells seem rather forced and farfetched and i still hate his attitude, either he loves memes or hes just trying to spread a shitload of mist + lol my opinions are almost the same as dunn's yet u dont value his opinions WHILE you said u townread him

safe bruv

[Zachstralkita]

+ lol my opinions are almost the same as dunn's yet u dont value his opinions WHILE you said u townread him

just cause someones town doesnt mean they cant have poor judgement

[inspectorscout]

Wait u wat, so if u townread someone u still dont take their opinion into consideration because you dont like their judgements?
And you said you are open to my ideas, but not his. Shouldnt the two of reading the same mean we are both not good at judging stuff and thus both not worth your time?

Also why the fuck wont u listen to a guy that you townread yet you listen to me, wile you scumread me? For me that seems to have some correlation and its pretty weird.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Hey inter, I like ! And even

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are you really pushing an exclamation mark as a scum tell?

[inspectorscout]

I dont know if you read what i said or just read half of it and thought 'is that even english', but im not basing my scum tell on an exclamation mark. I just said that it makes posts feel forced and extremely thought out, which is something small that triggers me, especially if i think someone is leaning to scum

[drmyshottyizsik]

I dont know if you read what i said or just read half of it and thought 'is that even english', but im not basing my scum tell on an exclamation mark. I just said that it makes posts feel forced and extremely thought out, which is something small that triggers me, especially if i think someone is leaning to scum

Your sarcasm isn't helping you. Nor is the fact that you just confirmed that with no subjective precedent you think that me using an exclamation mark is a scum tell...!

[Zachstralkita]

Wait u wat, so if u townread someone u still dont take their opinion into consideration because you dont like their judgements?
And you said you are open to my ideas, but not his. Shouldnt the two of reading the same mean we are both not good at judging stuff and thus both not worth your time?

Also why the fuck wont u listen to a guy that you townread yet you listen to me, wile you scumread me? For me that seems to have some correlation and its pretty weird.

you took that at face value way more than you should

[inspectorscout]

Yah im trying to get discussion going cuz this game is half dead
I agree that an exclamation mark is a bad way to scumread, but they are an indicator that a post is crafted rather than being natural. But no, for that alone you arent scum AT ALL. Town crafts posts too sometimes. But, you suspected zach for like the most silly reason, and when i defended him you just said you didnt understand my question. Okay, thats still not a real thing, but i added you in nullscum anyway to get some reaction out of you. Right now you are just focussing on that exclamation mark part of my read instead of arguing about the bait part, which seems a lot more out of place to me.

Oh and zach, i care about that a lot more than i should because i absolutely dont get whatever you are doing. Care to explain why u dont believe him? And from what i have seen, his judgement isnt really poor, so thats no excuse.

Hell why am i even defending myself on my statements about an exclamation mark and someone refusing to accept an opinion, against the 2 ppl that i scumread?. Oh and drmy, if you think my reads are bad, can you please share us yours?

[inspectorscout]

Holy shit that post is bigger than i expected, if ur low on time or only read half the thread like everyone seems to do, read last paragraph

[Zachstralkita]

Oh and zach, i care about that a lot more than i should because i absolutely dont get whatever you are doing. Care to explain why u dont believe him? And from what i have seen, his judgement isnt really poor, so thats no excuse.

thats a matter of opinion

[Transcend]

VOTE: drmyshotty

still kinda want jar but let's see where this goes

[drmyshottyizsik]

VOTE: drmyshotty

still kinda want jar but let's see where this goes

Let's, reason please?

[Creature]

Or when you most expect?

Tommy is V/LA until Monday 30th
Lowell is V/LA until Tuesday 31st

VC 1.8

Votecount 1.8

[1] Tommy - Raskolnikov
[2] Raskolnikov - Lowell, JarJarDrinks
[1] drmyshottyizsik - Transcend
[0] Lowell
[0] Dunnstral
[2] Zachstralkita - inspectorscout, drmyshottyizsik
[0] nnn_thekushmountains
[0] Blue Yoshi
[1] Transcend - Blue Yoshi
[0] JarJarDrinks
[1] Trivium - Dunnstral
[0] inspectorscout
[0] Bacde

[0] Nolynch

Not voting (5): Tommy, nnn_thekushmountains, Bacde, Zachstralkita, Trivium

With 13 alive, 7 votes is the majority.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-06-10 16:30:00)

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

I think I know who I want to vote for but I'm waiting for said person to post more

[Zachstralkita]

UNVOTE:

I think I know who I want to vote for but I'm waiting for said person to post more

there's no need to be cryptic here

[Dunnstral]

It's not you

[Raskolnikov]

I'm back.
Just from the skim I'm voting this, going to proper catchup soon.
VOTE: drmy

[Transcend]

Don't like that you're being super neutral. You haven't offered your reads on anything except talking about punctuation. And several people including myself have asked you to offer something to help us out. Figured, if kind requests to offer content were ignored, a vote would be the next best step.

[Transcend]

With that said i don't scum read you, I'm just not gonna let you skate through this game being a giant wall flower.

[Raskolnikov]

Okay I don't like yoshi's 240.
Don't understand the zach townread and the explanation given is shallow.

Troll play is hard to read sometimes but Zach's looks rather town, seeing as he didn't jump too hard on his own defense when Dunn started pressuring him.

I think he's saying he thinks zach was not over-defensive vs dunn and so he townreads the response. Not-overdefensive = townread isn't strong reasoning to begin with but in this case I wouldn't even agree with the premise.

What I saw was zach voting dunn after dunn pointed out zach's vote was scummy (as opposed to asking why/engaging there), engagement with dunn that's half-serious and pretty much constantly throwing shade on him with the same style but not really committing.
If zach is town than this is just stylistic as opposed to intentionally obstructive/avoidant/non-committal, and I could buy townreading zach for something else, but saying you liked THIS as a response to pressure and townreading for it I don't understand.

Transcend perspective's okay-ish. 241 his thinking about the triv and transcend in terms of lynching as opposed to voting and wagoning at this early point in the game is weird, especially given the tiny amount of info we have now and all the people who haven't been involved yet.

Taken as a whole he's actually not THAT bad because he's more or less consistent with his shallow reasoning (which sounds counter-intuitive but is a pain to explain fully).

[JarJarDrinks]

As for the rask thing, that's not why I'm voting you. I'm voting you due to the reads and defense you gave, which doesn't look genuine. And right now, you're literally asking me to build my case on you? My fos on you is nothing strong either. Why are you trying to encourage me to fos you more?

I'm not trying to encourage you to do anything.

I'm mentioning it cause I'm trying to figure out if you're legit scumreading me or you're scum tying to manufacture a scumread on me.

I feel like if you were truly townreading Rask and scumreading me then you would think me pushing him was scummy and mention it in your case against me.

Though I do kinda like that you didn't seem to consider the fact that I might be scumreading you for it.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm back.
Just from the skim I'm voting this, going to proper catchup soon.
VOTE: drmy

Where is this coming from? Even off a skim?

[Transcend]

Thanks for elaborating yourself there, JarJarDrinks. I misinterpreted what you said pretty hard I think. Nah, I didn't scumread your push on Rask, it was pretty null. I scumread the two posts that I mentioned.

Can you offer some content, like perhaps some reads you have outside of me? I know you gave initial reads, but the game has progressed, and I want to see where your stance is now.

PEDIT: LMFAO at shotty thinking he doesn't deserve the votes he's getting