Mini 1787: Peruvian Nightclub Mafia (Game End!)

[Zulfy]

This Votecount counts the vote by Tyler The Creator a couple posts down

Votecount 3.10

Creature (LYNCH)

: xyzzy, Dunnstral, Toolenduso, Bins

Dunnstral (L-2)

: [JFSF], Jaack, Creature

Xyzzy

: Tyler

Not Voting

: TheOtherFiction

With 9 alive, 5 have lynched

[Tyler the Creator]

jake

[Tyler the Creator]

vote:creature

[Dunnstral]

woo

[xyzzy]

alright

[Zulfy]

A clinging uneasiness. I'm so tired of it.

The high proportion of tourists tells an observant viewer that the locals know not to come here anymore. I wish I was so sane.

Paranoia grips me until my glass cracks. My face wipes away any smile that comes my way. The boss would be complaining about the lack of drinks being sold but you know, he would be shot in the temple as soon as he peeked his head out of whatever barrel he's hiding in.

To hell with it! I pour myself some vodka, spilling as I serve it and dampening my shirt as I lift the cup to my mouth. Repeat repeat. My face darkens.

Still those who come my way are put off by my aura.

Except this next guy. Very professional, no threats or insults, just straight to the gun to the face.
"Me va a decir donde esta" not even a question.

I tell him I don't know. He insists. I do also. He struggles with his composure.

Next thing I know he's got me by the neck. Threats and insults make their appearance. At some point in that monologue a spark is lit in me. It starts in my heart and inflames my chest and arms, cartoon-like it neatly travels up to my forehead. The frustration I've felt regarding these fuckers, my boss, this nightclub, serves like a fuel for the fire that's currently building up.

His gun is on the table, what a dumbass.

I grab a bottle and crash it on his head. There's a small second of meekness, and then, he's out.

Creature

was lynched day 3. He was a

mafia goon.

[Zulfy]

Night 3 starts now and ends in (expired on 2016-06-03 23:22:00), unless all players request the night to end earlier.

[Zulfy]

Stunned silence.


Someone picks him up, carries him away. Someone's talking to the club-goers. Someone grabs me. I look up and see he's a police officer.

Raw regret consumes any inkling of rage that might still be sifting through me. The cop's talking to me but I don't really hear him. He grabs my hand and takes out his handcuffs--




Fuck!

I hit the ground, luckily I have the bar to hide behind. One more gunshot but I can't sense where it went. Were they aiming at me? Or the cop?

Shit shit shit.

I'm in a real pickle now.

Jake From State Farm was killed Night 3, he was a

town cop

[Zulfy]

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Votecount 4.01

Not Voting

:toolenduso, Dunnstral, TheOtherFiction, Bins, xyzzy, Tyler the Creator, Jaack

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-06-17 23:22:00)

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Jaack

[xyzzy]

1)I can't believe you changed anime jazz hands. on the other hand Ibuki is pretty great.

2)I agree:

VOTE: Jaack

[toolenduso]

VOTE: xyzzy

Pretty likely this is it.

I have two big reasons to think the last scum is xyzzy:

1. The "scum coordinated on HA's claim" theory. Basically, since we know scum have day talk, I believe that they would have talked about HA's doc claim before he claimed. And since that's likely, it meant scum would have had a strategy. The strategy would have either revolved around expecting HA to live after the claim or expecting HA to get lynched after the claim. And again, because of day talk, I believe the other two scum would both adopt the same approach to HA's claim. Keyser/Creature reacted to HA's claim by immediately distrusting it, pushing to lynch the slot even harder than before, arguing for why ira's counterclaim was town and then continuing to push for HA's lynch even after Robert's macho VT claim. That means scum expected HA to get lynched. Tyler and Jaack both jumped on Robert as a possible lynch after his claim, while xyzzy continued to push for HA's lynch. Therefore, xyzzy looks the most like a partner working in tandem with the Keyser slot.
2. Creature's push on Dunn. This was done in tandem with Jaack. I don't think scum would both push on Dunn together the way that those two did. There was not a whole lot of town willpower to lynch Dunn, and it was obviously a risky play. Dunn's retraction meant, essentially, that town had just finished a quadruple play by all-but-clearing Jake, Robertslot, Bins and Dunn. In those circumstances, it would be very bullheaded for both remaining scum to work together on a risky lynch that would look awful if Dunn flipped town. This is basically an argument for Jaack being town more than it is for xyzzy being scum, but eliminating Jaack means that the only two options left are Tyler and xyzzy, and of those two xyzzy looks overall much, much scummier (see my previous summary of notes for TOF in #2183).

I started doing some work during the night to kinda check this and make sure I wasn't missing anything, but I only got halfway through. I'll post that next.

[toolenduso]

These are the interactions that Keyser and Creature had with each of these players.

Jaack:

-Keyser's first post in #55 has a vote for jaack. I can see this coming from a partner, especially now that we know Keyser was bussing the hell out of HA.
-Keyser lets go of the Jaack scumread pretty quickly, saying he looks more like paranoid town by #81. Again, possible for a partner trying to distance early.
-OK, so #297 reminded me that HA's (fake) suspicion of Keyser, as well as Keyser's subsequent vote on HA, were largely over Keyser's vote on Jaack. So that means that if Jaack is the third partner, all three scum focused on each other early in the game and decided to bus like crazy. I mean....maybe. But it seems a little far-fetched to me that scum would actually plan to enter the game that way.
-In #1868, Creature's fourth post, he says Jaack's pushes have been "pretty terrible." He lists Jaack as one possible scum of three possibilities in #1973, and his last post (#2227) asks people to lynch Dunn or Jaack the next day phase. All pretty much null.

Tyler:

-Keyser kinda buddies up to Tyler in #58, sorta like he did to me on D1 as well.
-Other than that, his discussions with Tyler are largely clinical (answering questions, talking about game theory, etc).
-Creature says Tyler's motivations look good in #1868.
-Very much nothing going on here. Small hint of non-partner feel from Keyser buddying up to Tyler.

xyzzy:

-Keyser says xyzzy's early posts look like forced scumhunting in #58. His reasoning is basically a mimic of what Tyler said in #50.
-He turns around his read on xyzzy in #204, for basically no reason. Mainly he says it was their catch-up post, which seemed more "natural and expressive." I did not get this from xyzzy's catch-up.
-He does it with another one of xyzzy's catch-up posts in #343, and then kinda tells xyzzy what they should do.
-Creature gives a vague town-lean-type read on xyzzy in #1868, says he sees xyzzy as town without explanation in #1933.
-Then in #2198, he is suddenly saying xyzzy is probable scum. He doesn't explain it and I have no idea where it comes from.
-Most of this is even more evidence for xyzzy being scum imo.

Next, unless we can just lynch xyzzy now, I want to go through the interactions each of these slots had with Creature/Keyser.

[Jaack]

Ehhh, I don't think xyzzy is the last scum in light of creature's flip. Creature was willing to hammer xyzzy, and I don't think that makes much sense, particularly since the last scum is most likely a PR, since town had a cop and means of protection for said cop.

I guess that leaves tool or tyler. Will have to investigate some more.

[Bins]

Creatures intent to hammer was awkward as fuck

As Dunn pointed out when it happened
Creature made a really strange switch in reads quickly
Almost like "oh ya he's fucked gotta scumread"

[Bins]

Intent to hammer

Going with Dunnstral for this one.

Take out Bins and put xyzzy in that list.

[Bins]

1)I can't believe you changed anime jazz hands. on the other hand Ibuki is pretty great.

2)I agree:

VOTE: Jaack

Scummy post

Ehhh, I don't think xyzzy is the last scum in light of creature's flip. Creature was willing to hammer xyzzy, and I don't think that makes much sense, particularly since the last scum is most likely a PR, since town had a cop and means of protection for said cop.

I guess that leaves tool or tyler. Will have to investigate some more.

Not as scummy post

[Bins]

Basically ditto @ tool but I'm at work so no effort from me

[xyzzy]

would I have put Creature at L-1 and then not move my vote once the wagon on him almost completely dried up if I was his scum partner? I doubt very much that I would've done so. me being scum forces Creature and me to have been bussing each other to a really extreme degree yesterday.

Bins, who did you target last night and what was the result (unless you have some strongly compelling reason to not share that information? but I dunno what such a reason would look like or if one would reasonably exist)

[Bins]

Jake, because I was hoping scum would roleblock Jake and kill TOF.

[Bins]

Basically who else would I target

[TheOtherFiction]

Putting this out there:

We basically need to decide that Dunn is town or else lynch him today.

toolenduso <-- No idea
Dunnstral <---slight town lean
TheOtherFiction <---town
Bins <---claim is semi townish?
xyzzy <--- ???
Tyler the Creator <-- ??? ahmmer,s good. MOre town than xyz, but that's not wroth much.
Jaack <--- slight scum lean

[TheOtherFiction]

btw, odds of 4 scum? Low? I'm thinking low.

[Dunnstral]

they have day talk so I'd say no

[Bins]

Dunn is not scum