New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[Aristophanes]

Pagetop!!!

I don't even know.
Like, I'd make a list, but I don't know that I'd believe i it. Maybe once something happens again I'll make one for you.

[Firebringer]

100 pages of wall texts is killer to try to read through honestly. You are all terrible people.

Just don't read them, I don't.
I replaced into this game at around page 50-60? Never read anything prior to that.
I am so good at dodging responsibility of reading.

[Firebringer]

Mod, FYI. L/VA for my wedding. I'll be back Tuesday. I may post intermittently.

OHH have fun.
Tell us all about it when you get back.

[Firebringer]

he hasn't talked much about the game.

Which is a...?

SCUMTELL

I think both KTS and Kuroi are town after reading their ISOs, they both have honest reads on the game and they seem pretty have been fairly active. I think it's kinda silly they're voting on eachother here, frankly.

DBG on the other hand has been posting barely any content. I'm not gonna be posting a long quote take thing mostp laers do, because that isn't my style. But so far, My reads can be summarized as such.

Town: KTS, Kuroi, Egg

Scum: DGB

That's about what I have that I want to share right now. I want to hear from the other replacement too.

So wait, you read Kuroi as town, but then say I am White Knighting him.... I guess that checks out?

Why the hell are you reading KTS as town and DGB as scum? That doesn't make any lick of sense.
Egg I can probably agree on.

BTW, White Knighting is literally the stupidest term in mafia, pls avoid it in the future, it makes my blood boil.

[hebichan]

he hasn't talked much about the game.

Which is a...?

SCUMTELL

I think both KTS and Kuroi are town after reading their ISOs, they both have honest reads on the game and they seem pretty have been fairly active. I think it's kinda silly they're voting on eachother here, frankly.

DBG on the other hand has been posting barely any content. I'm not gonna be posting a long quote take thing mostp laers do, because that isn't my style. But so far, My reads can be summarized as such.

Town: KTS, Kuroi, Egg

Scum: DGB

That's about what I have that I want to share right now. I want to hear from the other replacement too.

So wait, you read Kuroi as town, but then say I am White Knighting him.... I guess that checks out?

Why the hell are you reading KTS as town and DGB as scum? That doesn't make any lick of sense.
Egg I can probably agree on.

BTW, White Knighting is literally the stupidest term in mafia, pls avoid it in the future, it makes my blood boil.

Go ISO DGB and tell me how much substance he's posted all game. Please do, now go back and ISO KTS. There is a significant difference in post quality.

[Firebringer]

Go ISO DGB and tell me how much substance he's posted all game. Please do, now go back and ISO KTS. There is a significant difference in post quality.

Explain what you mean by post quality, because my post quality is shit, yet I have a town role pm.

I don't see how you read DGB on "post quality" its very vague.

[hebichan]

Go ISO DGB and tell me how much substance he's posted all game. Please do, now go back and ISO KTS. There is a significant difference in post quality.

Explain what you mean by post quality, because my post quality is shit, yet I have a town role pm.

I don't see how you read DGB on "post quality" its very vague.

Considering I'm voting on you, I obviously don't believe you have a town role pm in the first place. WHaqt I mean by quality is that he barely gives any reasoning on his lynches, why don't you grill him this hard, all his reasons are at least as vague as mine.

[Firebringer]

Go ISO DGB and tell me how much substance he's posted all game. Please do, now go back and ISO KTS. There is a significant difference in post quality.

Explain what you mean by post quality, because my post quality is shit, yet I have a town role pm.

I don't see how you read DGB on "post quality" its very vague.

Considering I'm voting on you, I obviously don't believe you have a town role pm in the first place. WHaqt I mean by quality is that he barely gives any reasoning on his lynches, why don't you grill him this hard, all his reasons are at least as vague as mine.

Okay? I never said you thought I had a town role pm.
I am not going to grill KTS cause I have played enough games with him to know he wont explain his thoughts, and you seemed much more likelier too.

I read their posts, and no explanations doesn't mean scum. KTS tone is more off to me than DGBs.

[hebichan]

Go ISO DGB and tell me how much substance he's posted all game. Please do, now go back and ISO KTS. There is a significant difference in post quality.

Explain what you mean by post quality, because my post quality is shit, yet I have a town role pm.

I don't see how you read DGB on "post quality" its very vague.

Considering I'm voting on you, I obviously don't believe you have a town role pm in the first place. WHaqt I mean by quality is that he barely gives any reasoning on his lynches, why don't you grill him this hard, all his reasons are at least as vague as mine.

Okay? I never said you thought I had a town role pm.
I am not going to grill KTS cause I have played enough games with him to know he wont explain his thoughts, and you seemed much more likelier too.

I read their posts, and no explanations doesn't mean scum. KTS tone is more off to me than DGBs.

What do you mean by tone? Thats just as vague as what I said.

[Firebringer]

What do you mean by tone? Thats just as vague as what I said.

His tone isn't same as his other games I have played with him.
Its vague because I can't completely explain it, and its mostly gut.

[hebichan]

What do you mean by tone? Thats just as vague as what I said.

His tone isn't same as his other games I have played with him.
Its vague because I can't completely explain it, and its mostly gut.

I don't have enough games to have any sense of these things, so for now I like my vote where it is.

[Firebringer]

What do you mean by tone? Thats just as vague as what I said.

His tone isn't same as his other games I have played with him.
Its vague because I can't completely explain it, and its mostly gut.

I don't have enough games to have any sense of these things, so for now I like my vote where it is.

I don't think I ever said your vote was bad either.
Why do you assume so much?

[hebichan]

What do you mean by tone? Thats just as vague as what I said.

His tone isn't same as his other games I have played with him.
Its vague because I can't completely explain it, and its mostly gut.

I don't have enough games to have any sense of these things, so for now I like my vote where it is.

I don't think I ever said your vote was bad either.
Why do you assume so much?

Because you're questioning me like you think it is?

[Firebringer]

Because you're questioning me like you think it is?

I was questioning your other reads. Not your read on me.

[hebichan]

Because you're questioning me like you think it is?

I was questioning your other reads. Not your read on me.

I'm reading DGB the same as you, and you admit your read on KTS is meta, so I'm not sure where this conversation is supposed to lead.

[Firebringer]

Because you're questioning me like you think it is?

I was questioning your other reads. Not your read on me.

I'm reading DGB the same as you, and you admit your read on KTS is meta, so I'm not sure where this conversation is supposed to lead.

To a better tomorrow for all town kind.

Off topic: What is your avatar of?

[hebichan]

Because you're questioning me like you think it is?

I was questioning your other reads. Not your read on me.

I'm reading DGB the same as you, and you admit your read on KTS is meta, so I'm not sure where this conversation is supposed to lead.

To a better tomorrow for all town kind.

Off topic: What is your avatar of?

Snivy, pokemon from generation five. It's a snake pokemon, hebi is snake in japanese. It was my highschool nickname.

[Firebringer]

Ohhh....well its pretty cool I guess.
Hows life?

[Something_Smart]

What do you hate about the term whiteknighting? It's definitely a tactic that scum use.

My list:
Kuroi
Firebringer
KTS

and maaaaybe Aristo or Reverie.

[Firebringer]

What do you hate about the term whiteknighting? It's definitely a tactic that scum use.

I hate it because white knighting isn't a real thing.
Its a thing that people claiming is scummy but isn't scummy.

Listen, if scum are protecting town, thats a good thing. Its not fucking scummy its actually pro town move (Even if its from scum). Its hard to discern if scum actually are just protecting a town most of the time too.

Its one of those things that discourages town and scum from PROTECTING town reads. If town strongly defends a townread, they are accused of "White Knighting' by people scumreading them, and it makes me sick each time.

If the player is indeed scum, you can bring up better arguments then "THEY ARE DEFENDING THIS TOWN PLAYER", because thats fucking terrible and needs to fucking die.

[Something_Smart]

I think that is exaggerated a little but I mostly agree. Whiteknighting is a tactic that scum use to gain towncred but it's hard to tell the difference between it and honest defending of townreads. It's kind of like bussing except harder to catch.
I think there is a possibility you are WKing Kuroi, but I think the likelihood is at least as good that you are his partner defending him. I most certainly have other reasons for scumreading you besides that.

[Slandaar]

It's a good day!

VOTE: Kuroi

Yeah, not Aristo, the long 'break' has given me the chance to just kind of think things through.

I have made this point like three times now but eh going to repeat it as this is clearly who we should be lynching today:

You imply Snarky posting more would have been a town action here.
?

Abso-freaking-lutely. The EASIEST way for scum to sneak under the radar is to post enough to be seen as not being a lurker...

Kuroi implies that someone who switches their playstyle up under pressure is a town action.

Coasting is weak but sounds good in theory. Why, after Reubus was lynched for not doing much or caring, would scum coast on D2?

So their play style can do a 180 mid-game? Does that sound town-like to you?

He then implies the complete opposite.

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These arguments are getting dumb.

Slandarr, I'll find that question I missed at my earliest convenience.

You didn't

In post 2264, Aristophanes wrote:
I can pretty much say for sure that Creature is not a scum mate of his, based on the wall he made against him.

Can You?

I remember him doing one on Fragger also. What is the difference?

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One of his scum mates could have advised him to because people town read it.

That requires day chat and requires the scum to think it will be read that way and then requires them to tell bugs who then follows through. A lot of requirements for something scum can't be sure will be read as town.

[Aristophanes]

Shit, I did forget. Sorry!

I'll revisit this tonight. I don't know that my feelings on that read are as sting anymore.

[Slandaar]

I think both

KTS and Kuroi

are town after reading their ISOs, they both have honest reads on the game and they seem pretty have been fairly active. I think it's kinda silly they're voting on eachother here, frankly.

DBG

on the other hand has been posting barely any content. I'm not gonna be posting a long quote take thing mostp laers do, because that isn't my style. But so far, My reads can be summarized as such.

Town: KTS, Kuroi,

Egg

Scum: DGB

I wasn't going to respond to this but I changed my mind.

How did Egg end up in your town reads?

[Performer]

hebi's posting upon replace-in in d4, is a little odd to me. She claims to be new(er) to FM, yet she clearly ignored my accusation against her - the ignoring part makes me think she's got more experience than she lets on. Maybe I'm overthinking this.
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My lynch list for today:
KAAG
Drip
KTS
and recently added Kuroi. First he had me as the only null, later he voted me on d4, listed me as his only scumread, later voted somebody else, posted another reads list that still has me as a scumread. His only reasoning was a scummy "you look like you're trying too hard as town." Lol. This from someone who was in a game with me already, as well as RC, Ranger, Heat, BROseidon

I'd like us to put anyone on this list to L-1, please quit dragging the day out .
VOTE: Kuroi
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@SS thanks for notifying me, I'll get on that signature issue right now! I didn't think it would possibly violate anything but I see what you mean