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HMMMMMMMMMMMM TO LOOK AT MY ROLE PM OR NOT HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

currently I have not. Also, here's my read list.

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Hope it helps.

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Yay! Ranger tr's me this game!!!

But seriously I'm not sure how you got any read off of that, I didn't read my role PM (I did now).

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Fair 'nuff. Dumb to assume that top tier = town.

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VOTE: Riddleton

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

Transcend's my name, omgus is my game.

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VOTE: Riddleton

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How

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Hi haven't analyzed this game just skimmed it. Prob will do it tonight. Blab blah ranger looks bad because of voting someone off of meta. I don't think that's super indicative of scum but not proper town play imo. Also why the fuck are you making POE reads when one slot hasn't even talked yet.

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oh fuck i forgot to unvote

UNVOTE:

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I have not and will not read any prior games to attain meta, because if people play like me they play different each and every game. Honestly this whole discussion about Creature kinda pisses me off and tbh I think it's derailing us from examining actual tells that have been presented in the game.

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There hasn't been much in this game to work with because the game has been cluttered with useless filler about meta etc. Which has overran the chat and distracted us from proper scumhunting, tbh.

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VOTE: log please

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next person to use the word "meta" gets hanged

try me

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VOTE: not_mafia

don't even care if he's l-1

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man im obligated to tr that deliberate omgus lol.

UNVOTE:

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yeah okay let's try this. i'm really disliking ranger and her reads this game. scumreading creature solely on meta looks bad. putting not_mafia as scum when all he did was troll in rvs looks ingenuine as well.

VOTE: Ranger

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I am thinking scum is between Ranger, Not_Mafia and Desmond_13

Take Not_Mafia out and you might have the scumteam tbh. Something_Smart hasn't been too great. I liked Riddle's questioning on Ranger.

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Sure, why not.

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I think that's L-1 though.

on who

this host hasn't given us a vote count at all.

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UNVOTE:

i unknowingly put two people in l-1. should be more careful :\

Creature's probably my top townread since right now his reads parallel quite a bit with mine, and his reactions and tone this game look genuine.

In a perfect world, Rask and Riddleton are both town. This isn't a perfect world though.

Not_Mafia is gut town for right now, I would like something more substantial from him lol.

Still incredibly displeased with Ranger's reads and conclusions. I don't find them genuine.

My read on Something_Smart- His top SR is Rask, but he never makes a solid case, and in fact literally points out a towny post from him. This looks a bit contradictory to me? Then not even 2 posts later, he suggests that Riddleton is the partner. I definitely do not believe he has a Rask+Riddle team in mind right now. I mean, it's not an impossibility, but IMO the interactions they have aren't forced.

VOTE: Something_Smart


tl;dr

{Creature}
{Riddle, Rask, Not_Mafia}
{Ranger, S_S}

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Also to me, why the Ranger/SS read makes sense. Ranger had two votes. S_S didn't give much of an opinion about her, or the votes on her. Instead, creates reads that sorta distract the Ranger momentum.

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Feedback on my reads would be nice because oddly, I'm moderately confident. And we're at an early stage of the game. I guess being an EM player, I've learned to get reads quickly.

But something in the form of:

"Hey, Transcend, I think your reads are good, here let me throw you a bone and vote with you!"

or

"Hey, Transcend, I think your reads are absolute shit, and here's why you're wrong:"

Would suffice.

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Ranger: Can you see why me, and probably other people find your Not_Mafia read fake?

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But your two scumreads are based on meta that contradicts previous games they were in. I don't mind that you analyze RVS votes, I do that too. But what I do mind is that the explanation of your votes is due to "meta". That just feels incredibly fake to me.

I know you only played one game with me, but the way I played in the Newbie game is far different than I am playing in this one. It's because I change my play style each game b/c playing the same way each game is boring.

I can only speak for myself, but did you ever think to consider that Creature and N_M don't play the same linear way each game?

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And you read me as town, and you know for an absolute fact I'm playing wayyyy differently than we did in our Newbie game.

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Honestly I like that you're defending your reads quite a bit even though I strongly disagree with them.

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Creature, opinions on S_S plz?

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I think Ranger had her reads before the bloc and I'm doubting my SR on her a teensy weensy bit. I just don't like the way she gets her reads. But I really like her tone this game.

I really don't think the bloc has much to do with anything tbh. I was never super committed to it.

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UNVOTE:

man......... i change my reads in this game more than i do my underwear.

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Initially I felt his intro posts were scummy. But now I town-lean him since his content looks genuine.

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Meh. I'll have to reread.

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IMO fuck townblocs

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brb

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Prodge

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fuck off with the townblocs.

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fuck off with the townblocs.

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N_M is still gut town but like he hasn't towntold at all I just feel he wouldn't play this shitty as scum lol but that's an assumption about a dude I don't even know.

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^hope all is well^

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N_M is still gut town but like he hasn't towntold at all I just feel he wouldn't play this shitty as scum lol but that's an assumption about a dude I don't even know.

How

gut

also my townbloc

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I can full trust myself to vote with Transcend this game.

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I vote for a townbloc consisting of no one

same....

hey man.... got any reads lol.... haha..

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Transcend, are you still townreading Not_Mafia?

Null.

My gut and my gut alone says he's town.

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I'll take a look when i get home

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what

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I do not understand or like that vote at all. Weren't you the one who defended Ranger all game? You were the one who stated her tone was town and hat she always acts like this as town. You were the one who made me 180 on her initially. Now you put a vote on Ranger that looks like inconsistent play on your behalf.

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Well actually that's a lie. Ranger made me 180 on Ranger. You just defended her, which looks like empty defense and possible chainsawing. I really don't think that Ranger had towntold that much at the time you defended her. So this, to me, makes it look like you knew she was town and just chainsawed. Plus your posts as of recently have been junk.

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We need a scumflip today.

Ranger is my best bet.

VOTE: Ranger

The meta thing was okay in that there were some differences but bringing it out that early and relying on it that heavily reads careless for ranger, and overall I think creature's town here.

I assume ranger went for bussing not_mafia if hes scum though I don't rule out ranger/riddleton either.

These two posts are made then something makes a vote on Ranger.

If this isn't fishy idk what is tbh

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VOTE: Something_Smart

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Hmm. Transcend & Ranger, and if I had to pick a third, it would be a toss up between Rask and Riddle.

What exactly sucked about it? I don't think Ranger sticking hard to her early game reads is super alignment indicative, so I don't see that part of the read as much.

I would say both investigatives target Ranger. Her alignment will be super useful to know.

I iso'd S_S and this is what I got from him in terms of Ranger.

Townreads her first in 171 willing to put her in a bloc. Defends her meta in 184. 220 loses TR on her and tells the prs to both check her.

Then he votes the person he wants both prs to investigate?

I don't think Riddle ever defended Ranger.

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Yep, I'm right. Riddle never defended Ranger. It was S_S. Riddle was an advocate for Ranger being voted early in the game then retracted that read about the same time I did.

My posts indicate that S_S has had a very inconsistent read on Ranger that he hasn't taken much of a stance on, and when she starts to gain momentum again, he puts an almost empty vote on her right after he said that both PRs should investigate her.

All the information I provided makes it pretty damning to me.

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That's L-1 I believe lol

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UNVOTE:

Shotty more VCs pls

are you taking the game more seriously now

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well let's go ahead and lynch s_s

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Why the fuck are we even considering N_M scum.... I think we should question him being scum only in the event that he doesn't get NKed tonight....

Like....

What am I even playing.

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Cooooooooooooooooool beans

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so you appealed to me, but not riddle, who also voted you?

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LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO

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Cgratz Not_Mafia, you're the second person to make me laugh my ass off on this website.

The first being KainTepes. His games are hilarious.

Same avatar too.

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Why didn't nm get nked

Bleh.

I'd probably vote him but it's too stupid to vote on lylo and get blitzed.

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I mean if there's a seer that wants to cc him I'll vote.

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Rask if you were to claim seer I'd vote nm right now.

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Rask if you are seer, just claim and I'll vote nm no hesitation.

If you're ww and claim seer you will win too.

But I'm not lynching an unccd seer.

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Actually fuck it rask is softing seer really hard and i believe him over n_m. Just hard claim seer and i will vote him. Give your report that way if it's ww and not mafia we have a potential clear in 3 way.

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Rask don't fucking hide as seer just claim i fucking know it's you.

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You getting nked is better than you getting lynched now claim seer.

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Here's why i know it's you.

1. Nm could've been rxn testing but you decided to keep your vote on him
2. The evil faction read for seer overnight and decided it was you
3. You softed in 353

Just out your report and nm is dead. No questions asked.

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Transcend if you're town we're talking about this after the game.

I am town i am forcing you to hard claim that way we can get mafia lynched

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Oh okay creature is seer then

VOTE: not_mafia

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I'm vt but i bet you're gonna lynch me when creature dies.

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Creature if you're ww you won now fucking hammer.

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I didn't get blitzed nm is conf ww if you tr me you're obligated to vote nm since he's confirmed ww if I'm town

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Fuck off I'm lynching ww for you don't be a whiny baby.

Pedit: great. Then hammer. Nm can only be town if rask/myself are mafia

Ranger could blitz if scum, you could blitz if scum.

Hammer already.

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It's probably cop setup like rask said because nm would fish cop over seer in mafia setup.

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My guess is mafia read for who softed cop the most and killed them tbh.

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Btw i think one of creature/rask is seer and ranger is lm.

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Well shit seer out your report in twilight fast.

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He self hanmered to avoid town getting info

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Actually i got an idea. Everyone hypoclaims seer. If you're seer you give your real report if you're blue you make up a report.

Rask =/= ww is my hypo claim

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Do it fast

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I'm sorry

If you're serious then you should get blacklisted for deliberately trolling this game

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Can everyone follow through with hypo claim?

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We won lol

Jk give a hypo report

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Ranger if you come back give your hypo claim

This is helpful in many ways

Mafia setup

- scum has no idea who actual seer is because everyone would appear not ww and might nk a vt.

Ww setup

- if seer gets nked then we have a clear vt. Alternatively, if maf nks a blue, real seer gets ANOTHER report and should likely nab the wolf.

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I play too much epicmafia

Blue = VT

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If scum makes the right kill then it will backfire. If they make the wrong kill it will be pretty good. My guess is it will be mafia setup so no reports will be useful and scum just has to pr read.

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VOTE: ranger

did you win as scum rask lol

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hey did you win as scum answer fast lol

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and yes, i'm seer. just didn't want to get nked lol.

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fuck i hammered wrong lol!!!!!

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please don't be lying <3

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i felt that ranger had too much information on n_m being scum but was more adamant about the bad creature push. her tone was towny, but yours was townier rask and your reads were more consistent as well as your pushes. and your reactions to my whole thing on d2 were really good.

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so like if i won, then yay!!! and if i lost then, o well.

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love all around guys, good game. ranger i had you d1 AGAIN!!!! but this time you made me 180 for a brief bit.

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apologies to something_smart, you probably wouldn't have been lynched if i hadn't 180'd on ranger.

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Creature's first townbloc legitimately had 4 town (both prs) in it. Well done my dude!

Sorry about the whole hypo thing I just was confident it was Ranger/N_M and didn't want to get nk'd.

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Ranger was in a tough spot this game. Faced with a dangerous number of obvtowns in a setup that already has two clears and possibilities for more, she had to attack the townblock and the only way she could was through that weird ass meta argument against Creature. She was right to bus N_M, who is useless as scum, but she did it a little too soon and too consistently to seem real. Overall though, good job Ranger, and your loss was not your fault.

QFT

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Dead threads, scum QT pls?

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oh and also the night actions plz

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why did you decide not to cc me? i literally said i was townreading creature and raskol

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I do think that Rask thought my play was questionable though you might've beaten me there. Pretty sure Rask would've quickhammered like I did if he were uncc'd VT.