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Have youIn post 7076, McMenno wrote:So, does anyone else think that with Hanweir Garrison rdw might be viable in standard again? Or is gw tokens still too dominant?seenThalia?
Also, I like most of this set, but Meld is...I don't know yet. My initial reaction was "What? Why?"jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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Thats how I feel too. The flip mechanic was usually hard enough to pull off and only certain things actually were worth trying to flip (westvale abbey). Melding just seems like something that people will try hard to do and fail miserably. I think the new angels could maybe be good enough to try it? Only because Bruna will bring Gisela back to the battlefield from the graveyard.Looking for love in Alderaan places.-
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Meld could have been designed so much better. Just make it so only one of the cards is a DFC and easy, you're no longer constrained by how many DFCs are in the set. As it stands, lol only 3 melds. Why even have it if you're going to hamstring it so much.
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Okay those strictly worse Kindle and Accumulated Knowledge are like the biggest slap in the face to everyone who hates standard right now.
I've never seen the community so unexcited for a set like this. The skype magic group I'm a part of has turned into Overwatch General, and they're mostly casual/EDH/"fun" players. I thought the morale after Theros would be the worst it'd been for a while, but WotC has dropped the ball so many times no one feels anything anymore. It turns out what casual people want from Innistrad is Innistrad, not more Eldrazi.
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LOL Docent of Perfection is hilarious!
So probably because I am a newer player and didn't start until Khans, I am in love with the past couple sets. I think they are neat and while people keep trying to compare old cards to the new cards, I don't care. Yeah there is an obvious downplay on the cards power from last time but so what? They still look to be interesting in standard for me.
Shadows did the same thing but the problem was dragons. That block needs to hurry up and leave so they can get to their 2 block set that they were planning.Looking for love in Alderaan places.-
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It's less power being lower and more than they've lopsided it all in two colors. They can't print any good blue or red spells because they'd 'break Jace', but they can sure as hell print more stupid white card advantage spells and efficient creatures. They nerfed removal so we'd get to play with the big eldrazi, but at the same time nuzzled all the eldrazi enablers so now we're stuck with a format where the premier removal spell is Dromoka's Command and you just play a bunch of mid-sized threats.
It's not even that though. Eldrazi is just such a boring theme once you get down to it. They have one central gimmick, and it's not a particularly interesting one. That's why OGW was good--they actually took the eldrazi into interesting space with the colorless mana. So, after the big grimdark eldrazi block, what do they do? THROW US INTO ANOTHER BIG GRIMDARK ELDRAZI BLOCK. By making Eldritch Moon about Emrakul, it retroactively hurts SoI's legacy because now that's just part of the Eldrazi mess too.
That's not to speak oftoneat all. The last truly optimistic block we had was RTR. Theros had a lot of brooding melancholy baked into it, Khans was Pan-Asian Game of Thrones, Dragons was all about how much worse things were than Khans, Origins doesn't count, Battle for Zendikar was about the literal apocalypse, and SoI is a grim mystery that turns into the literal apocalypse. They talked before about how they did the same mistake with framing Alara, Zendikar, Scars, and Innistrad in a row because it was just too much depression then immediately went and made the same mistake again. Even in a mass-market card game, levity is a powerful topic and, if every set is just the same Shit Goes Wrong apathy sets in.
I sincerely expect Kaladesh to be a very good set--MaRo didn't even try to play Hype Man for SoI/EMN, which signals to me the sheer lack of interest or hope he had in it(in fact, I can almost assure you the reason we went back there right after the Zendikar return was because they were trying the new block model and didn't want to think too hard). It has the benefit of lookingfun. If I'm being really cynical, sets not based around non-traditional European sci-fi/fantasy tend to be some of the most interesting sets(Mirage, Lorwyn, original Innistrad to an extent, Tarkir). Sets directly after a major storyline ending tends to be some of the best(Invasion->Odyssey, Time Spiral->Lorwyn, Scars->Innistrad). It just has so much going for it in precedent, I can't wait to have petty complaints about it.Current Avatar: Dr. Contessa(OC, art by @pastelpuffin)-
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Why? I'm enjoying the change to Izzet Eldrazi but I don't see what Simic gives me instead - all of the good boardwipes are in red atm and green just doesn't do much outside of midrange.
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I actually really like Eldrazi. My first big standard deck was Eldrazi and I'm currently in the process of building Eldrazi aggro for Legacy and Freyalise Eldrazi for EDH.
My biggest complaint with the upcoming set is just how much power white is getting. I don't see the point in printing even more efficient creatures in white when it's already the best color in the game and is already warping the format to the point where it's almost impossible to build a good standard deck without white in it.
I'm hoping Liliana will be strong enough to warrant unwarping the format but I doubt it, especially with Gideon being the strongest standard planeswalker as is.Retired.
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Wait, they're reprinting Donate and Natural Order?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Donate is red and target opponent, not player, I believe.
New Natural Order is 1GG, sac a dude. Can grab any creature with CMC X, X being sac'd CMC plus 2. So Pod-like. Self exiles so you can't go Bird into this into Witness.
In Standard, Goblin Dark Dwellers, flashback into Atarka, seems dece.
Also new uncommon - 1B opponent discards at random, Delirium = discard 2.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Harmless OfferingIn post 7089, GreyICE wrote:Wait, they're reprinting Donate and Natural Order?
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Target opponent gains control of target permanent you control.Last edited by Lady Lambdadelta on Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:45 am, edited 2 times in total.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Oh, so no turn 2 Natural Order>Progenitus then.In post 7090, InflatablePie wrote:Donate is red and target opponent, not player, I believe.
New Natural Order is 1GG, sac a dude. Can grab any creature with CMC X, X being sac'd CMC plus 2. So Pod-like. Self exiles so you can't go Bird into this into Witness.
In Standard, Goblin Dark Dwellers, flashback into Atarka, seems dece.
Also new uncommon - 1B opponent discards at random, Delirium = discard 2.
Well that's a much worse card. Still good, but lacks a certain punch that a turn 2 10/10 pro-everything brings.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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the goblin dark dwellers thing doesn't work exactly because it exiles. also, I'm digging Gisa and Geralf and the 2/1 for G werewolf. is the wolf modern playable? thoughts?In post 7090, InflatablePie wrote:Donate is red and target opponent, not player, I believe.
New Natural Order is 1GG, sac a dude. Can grab any creature with CMC X, X being sac'd CMC plus 2. So Pod-like. Self exiles so you can't go Bird into this into Witness.
In Standard, Goblin Dark Dwellers, flashback into Atarka, seems dece.
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