EDATING MAFIA (MAFIA & SURVIVOR WIN)

Post Post #44 (isolation #1) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:40 am

Confirm

Post Post #78 (isolation #2) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:13 am

In post 70, Luna Fox wrote:I was thinking of only edating whoever i townread, but if i end up edating scum for one reason or another then they can't kill me easily so ha!

I would think it's better for town to try to edate scum, because then you avoid a double town kill and protect yourself from the scum.

Post Post #84 (isolation #3) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:14 am

In post 82, McMenno wrote:
In post 78, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 70, Luna Fox wrote:I was thinking of only edating whoever i townread, but if i end up edating scum for one reason or another then they can't kill me easily so ha!
I would think it's better for town to try to edate scum, because then you avoid a double town kill and protect yourself from the scum.
something_smart do you want to date me? I know you have an anime avatar but it's okay fam.

IT'S NOT ANIME IT'S JUST ANIMATED
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE

no I will never date you now

Post Post #89 (isolation #4) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:14 am

In post 85, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 78, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 70, Luna Fox wrote:I was thinking of only edating whoever i townread, but if i end up edating scum for one reason or another then they can't kill me easily so ha!
I would think it's better for town to try to edate scum, because then you avoid a double town kill and protect yourself from the scum.
I think scum will probably not end up edating at all, unless they have some uber powerful relationship ability or something.
So i currently have townreads on everyone that is pairing up.

that's awkward... I can't make any edate requests

Post Post #92 (isolation #5) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:15 am

In post 90, McMenno wrote:the stench of rejection fills my soul.

Lol. I can't actually reject you.

Post Post #100 (isolation #6) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:16 am

In post 96, McMenno wrote:
In post 92, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 90, McMenno wrote:the stench of rejection fills my soul.
Lol. I can't actually reject you.
what does this mean?

it's my role
I'm like an awkward teenager or something

Post Post #109 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:17 am

In post 104, McMenno wrote:
In post 100, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 96, McMenno wrote:
In post 92, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 90, McMenno wrote:the stench of rejection fills my soul.
Lol. I can't actually reject you.
what does this mean?
it's my role
I'm like an awkward teenager or something
so if I try to edate you you will automatically accept?

also this thread got real weird real fast

yes

Post Post #126 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:20 am

Nahdia are you keeping track of who's edating whom too?

Post Post #134 (isolation #9) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:22 am

oh ok

Post Post #139 (isolation #10) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:23 am

Luna why is beeboy probtown?

Post Post #149 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:25 am

In post 145, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 139, Something_Smart wrote:Luna why is beeboy probtown?

In post 85, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 78, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 70, Luna Fox wrote:I was thinking of only edating whoever i townread, but if i end up edating scum for one reason or another then they can't kill me easily so ha!
I would think it's better for town to try to edate scum, because then you avoid a double town kill and protect yourself from the scum.
I think scum will probably not end up edating at all, unless they have some uber powerful relationship ability or something.
So i currently have townreads on everyone that is pairing up.

that's pretty weak considering scum are trying to act like town
and scum pairing up with a towny player means they can keep both alive while being able to hurt the town if that scum ever does die

Post Post #171 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:30 am

In post 149, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 145, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 139, Something_Smart wrote:Luna why is beeboy probtown?

In post 85, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 78, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 70, Luna Fox wrote:I was thinking of only edating whoever i townread, but if i end up edating scum for one reason or another then they can't kill me easily so ha!
I would think it's better for town to try to edate scum, because then you avoid a double town kill and protect yourself from the scum.
I think scum will probably not end up edating at all, unless they have some uber powerful relationship ability or something.
So i currently have townreads on everyone that is pairing up.
that's pretty weak considering scum are trying to act like town
and scum pairing up with a towny player means they can keep both alive while being able to hurt the town if that scum ever does die

also, beeboy never chose to pair up with anyone, he just accepted a pairing
and I don't like how little else he has done

Post Post #180 (isolation #13) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:32 am

In post 175, Luna Fox wrote:I really dont like the angle SS is pushing to discredit my beeboy townread

well one of your townreads is almost definitely wrong
basically everyone except the 2 absent people and the 1 who can't make requests is a townread

Post Post #190 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:34 am

In post 177, beeboy wrote:
In post 171, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 149, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 145, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 139, Something_Smart wrote:Luna why is beeboy probtown?

In post 85, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 78, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 70, Luna Fox wrote:I was thinking of only edating whoever i townread, but if i end up edating scum for one reason or another then they can't kill me easily so ha!
I would think it's better for town to try to edate scum, because then you avoid a double town kill and protect yourself from the scum.
I think scum will probably not end up edating at all, unless they have some uber powerful relationship ability or something.
So i currently have townreads on everyone that is pairing up.
that's pretty weak considering scum are trying to act like town
and scum pairing up with a towny player means they can keep both alive while being able to hurt the town if that scum ever does die
also, beeboy never chose to pair up with anyone, he just accepted a pairing
and I don't like how little else he has done
I have like 3 reads are all town and I have said this.
DRK
Rando
Luna
That is more then most people here.

Like what reads have you given this game?

throwing out random reads without really supporting them is a scumtell.

Post Post #197 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:35 am

In post 189, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 180, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 175, Luna Fox wrote:I really dont like the angle SS is pushing to discredit my beeboy townread
well one of your townreads is almost definitely wrong
basically everyone except the 2 absent people and the 1 who can't make requests is a townread
It is good enough reasoning for me, i already gave more insight on the why i think this way, you're chosing to ignore it right now, i welcome you to engage me in my reasoning regarding pairing, but your beeboy townread discredit is bad.

Okay.
Scum want to act town.
Town are pairing up.
Therefore scum pair up to blend in with the town.

Post Post #213 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:37 am

In post 206, beeboy wrote:
In post 197, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 189, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 180, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 175, Luna Fox wrote:I really dont like the angle SS is pushing to discredit my beeboy townread
well one of your townreads is almost definitely wrong
basically everyone except the 2 absent people and the 1 who can't make requests is a townread
It is good enough reasoning for me, i already gave more insight on the why i think this way, you're chosing to ignore it right now, i welcome you to engage me in my reasoning regarding pairing, but your beeboy townread discredit is bad.
Okay.
Scum want to act town.
Town are pairing up.
Therefore scum pair up to blend in with the town.
I see scum make this argument a lot to discredit town reads.

Would you have accepted that request as scum?

Post Post #221 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:39 am

In post 218, beeboy wrote:
In post 213, Something_Smart wrote:Would you have accepted that request as scum?
Nope I would either drive a Luna pair because she would be hard to lynch.

What would you say when people asked you why you refused?

Post Post #230 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:40 am

In post 221, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 218, beeboy wrote:
In post 213, Something_Smart wrote:Would you have accepted that request as scum?
Nope I would either drive a Luna pair because she would be hard to lynch.
What would you say when people asked you why you refused?

answer the question beeboy

Post Post #233 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:41 am

In post 223, beeboy wrote:
In post 201, beeboy wrote:SS instead of calling me scum why not ask me to back up my reads if that was your problem?
Like you know instead of discrediting me.
Or you could ask me about my reads and call me scum.

I shouldn't have to ask.

Post Post #246 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:44 am

In post 241, beeboy wrote:
In post 239, beeboy wrote:
In post 221, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 218, beeboy wrote:
In post 213, Something_Smart wrote:Would you have accepted that request as scum?
Nope I would either drive a Luna pair because she would be hard to lynch.
What would you say when people asked you why you refused?
I don't know I haven't planned a scum game.

I can immediately think 2 excuses I could probably use though now that you mention it.

Probably something like I have "reasons" to not want to increase the chance I die.
Then just be like dying is bad late in the game if I don't fake claim a PR or say I was gambiting a kill one 1 player instead of killing off a lover pair.
How does answering this help you sort me because i feel as though you are asking me aimless questions here.

I'm trying to show you that I have a point. You would likely have been wagoned had you said something like that.

Post Post #264 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:47 am

In post 256, beeboy wrote:
In post 246, Something_Smart wrote:I'm trying to show you that I have a point. You would likely have been wagoned had you said something like that.
No I think randomly becoming lovers with a player while being a potential PR or wanting to pair up with someone I can more confidently sort in a neighborhood QT (like Luna) is a totally viable excuse as scum.

If I am scum I can't mislynch DRK right now and DRK is probably going to troll at some point which would make the ML easy to push.

But I love DRK and am not evil this game so I can't do that. <3

OK so given that there is not a single player who was offered the opportunity to pair up with someone and turned it down to stay solo, does that influence your thoughts at all?

Post Post #267 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:48 am

Scout, why is Luna town? Have you seen her as both alignments in Marathons?

Post Post #279 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:50 am

In post 272, Luna Fox wrote:SS is scum.
beeboy's deffo town

can we get another readlist from you?

Post Post #286 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:52 am

In post 281, beeboy wrote:
In post 264, Something_Smart wrote:OK so given that there is not a single player who was offered the opportunity to pair up with someone and turned it down to stay solo, does that influence your thoughts at all?
I am just saying you are discrediting it in a way I usually see scum do.

At the point at which Luna said it was pro town for a variety of reasons of course scum would do it. Before that point not so much.

Explain what about my argument makes it similar to a scum discredit.

Post Post #310 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:56 am

In post 298, beeboy wrote:
In post 286, Something_Smart wrote:Explain what about my argument makes it similar to a scum discredit.
Scum discrediting town reads for WIFOMy reasons because town finding other towns and working together is bad for the scum wincon.

this makes sense

however, I did not introduce the WIFOM. Luna did by saying that people pairing up (a thing both alignments can do) are definitely town.

Post Post #316 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:56 am

In post 307, beeboy wrote:Smart is OBV scum af.

Are you willing to bet your life on it?

If so, we should become lovers. Lynching a 1 scum/1 town lover is pretty protown.

Post Post #330 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:58 am

In post 325, Luna Fox wrote:scum can do that as well to look town and blend in

this is a fact. A literal fact. There is no WIFOM involved in a fact.

Post Post #334 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:58 am

In post 326, beeboy wrote:
In post 322, inspectorscout wrote:Beeboy why so confident?
Confidence is the key to getting people to sheep you.

Okay then

do you consent to being speedlynched when I flip town?

Post Post #350 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:01 am

I don't even know what to do with luna right now.

All players except 3 chose to pair up in early game.

The three that didn't: Yume, Majiffy and me.

Yume was absent.
Majiffy was absent.
I was unable to initiate pairings.
Therefore we are the scumpool, and everyone else is automatically town, and it's a scum WIFOM discredit to say otherwise.

Like, what even.

Post Post #361 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:02 am

VOTE: beeboy
pretty sure he would not be pushing this aggressively as town

Post Post #364 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:03 am

In post 359, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 350, Something_Smart wrote:I don't even know what to do with luna right now.

All players except 3 chose to pair up in early game.

The three that didn't: Yume, Majiffy and me.

Yume was absent.
Majiffy was absent.
I was unable to initiate pairings.
Therefore we are the scumpool, and everyone else is automatically town, and it's a scum WIFOM discredit to say otherwise.

Like, what even.
You're assuming im declaring everyone that paired conf town, it's a starting point of my reads, which is why it's called "Probably Town" not "The super town that towned ever in this town"

You basically are. Not one of those townreads has changed, as far as you have said.

Post Post #375 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:04 am

In post 371, MURDERCAT wrote:5 mins guys, will hammer SS if needed

no you won't, because I'm town

Post Post #385 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:05 am

In post 369, beeboy wrote:
In post 361, Something_Smart wrote:VOTE: beeboy
pretty sure he would not be pushing this aggressively as town
You apply terrible meta to me every single time we played.
Look at all our past non fire and ice games. You used meta on me at some point early on to scum read me.

good point

I mean, I've only seen one person (as far as I can remember) ever be that certain on me (and be wrong), and it was Titus, so it's not just that it's you.

Post Post #405 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:08 am

I need to scumhunt somebody besides beeboy and luna because nobody will ever lynch them

I don't like 293-312, I could vote random

I will reread the game over the night and have better reads tomorrow

Post Post #425 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:35 am

so my rough reads after rereading are:
towniest to scummiest
scout
DRK
beeboy
yume
bella
McMenno

Post Post #427 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:35 am

but they're all pretty close to null. my two strongest reads died overnight.

Post Post #434 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:36 am

In post 432, DeathRowKitty wrote:
In post 428, beeboy wrote:{SS, McMenno, Scout}

I like these for the lynches today.
this + whoever sent me fruit

why is sending you fruit bad

Post Post #443 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:39 am

ok now I'm torn.
I want to lynch McMenno.
Since people are calling for my head, keeping us lovers would eliminate a potential mislynch. However, if McMenno flips town then town will autolose in that case.

Post Post #448 (isolation #39) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:40 am

In post 445, beeboy wrote:HEY HEY HEY CAN WE MASS CLAIM

I claimed like half my role already
I'm the fruit vendor
I also can't initiate breakups

Post Post #454 (isolation #40) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:41 am

this is my full role:
I can't request edates
I can't refuse edates
I can't initiate breakups
and while I have a partner, I am a compulsive fruit vendor.

Post Post #463 (isolation #41) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:44 am

In post 462, inspectorscout wrote:I should claim or wat?

yes

Post Post #468 (isolation #42) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:44 am

Post Post #472 (isolation #43) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:45 am

I don't really believe beeboy's claim tbh

Post Post #477 (isolation #44) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:47 am

okay that makes more sense

Post Post #486 (isolation #45) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:49 am

VOTE: McMenno I can elaborate as much as is desired but I'm pretty sure this is scum

Post Post #490 (isolation #46) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:49 am

In post 488, McMenno wrote:
In post 485, DeathRowKitty wrote:i don't even care if we lynch scum or not anymore i feel like i've already won with beeboy
are you trying to lurk the game away?

claim

Post Post #496 (isolation #47) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:51 am

ok not claiming is definitely a scumtell for mcmenno
remember ircher's birthday game?

Post Post #500 (isolation #48) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:51 am

watcher, tracker, and cop?
:/

Post Post #504 (isolation #49) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:52 am

@Nahdia can one scum make an action and carry out the factional kill in the same night?

Yes.

Post Post #505 (isolation #50) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:53 am

ok rip us

Post Post #551 (isolation #51) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:37 am

In post 548, Luna Fox wrote:the fact that this game ended on N2 with only 1 mislynch shows it needs some serious tweaking tho.

yeah this game was super scumsided

but gg
I'm glad one of my reads was right

Post Post #557 (isolation #52) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:41 am

actually I was townreading you by that point -_-

Post Post #570 (isolation #53) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:08 am

In post 558, Luna Fox wrote:Why was i scumread of yours tho? I still dont understand.

Your logic was really bad and your scumread of me looked faked, and you just seemed to coast on townreads and not make any posts that showed a town mindset.
Sry though :/ but hey, I was right about basically everything we argued about, including beeboy not being town (he wasn't EXACTLY scum but close enough).