Mini 1812 | Quolls | Endgame

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Robb
zzz

[Dwlee99]

I should have researched quolls for my marsupial project.

[Dwlee99]

I should have researched quolls for my marsupial project.

What did you use instead?

Koalas, Kangaroos and Opossums.

[Dwlee99]

Hello, everyone, my name is Distortion! You probably haven't met me before, but I'm something you'd probably refer to as an 'alter ego.'

I wanted to discuss some things that were bothering me real quick. First off, high activity wins games. The more town discusses and pushes and does 'townie things,' the higher chance for us to win. Please stay active, and I don't even care what alignment you can be. Activity wins games, and I'm going to try to fulfill that requirement ourselves.

I don't believe in setup spec in closed standard games of Day 1.

Nice to meet some of you players I've never played with, and hi to all the players I have played with!

I don't like this alter ego.

[Dwlee99]

This alter ego doesn't like you, either.

you're just being intellectually dishonest at this point tbh

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: rask
likin it

[Dwlee99]

V/LA July 10th - July 17th due to a family vacation

[Dwlee99]

Starting from now on, regardless of alignment. Day 1 I will basically be a sheep. I will not be pushing for any lynches and only join whatever lynch the majority decides. People don't listen to me when I make pushes so I won't be pushing anymore.

hiplop
bad post
booo

[Dwlee99]

he is quoting my sig lol

I know. Im not THAT dumb. He was criticizing your deviance from that plan.

[Dwlee99]

Well I have sigs turned off so I don't know who else does.

I didn't deviate from anything though. I gave my opinion cause I was bored and all of a sudden people started voting. I'm not even voting rask.

which is why it is a bad post from.hiplop

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: dwlee

Youre scum this game

no u?

[Dwlee99]

Starting from now on, regardless of alignment. Day 1 I will basically be a sheep. I will not be pushing for any lynches and only join whatever lynch the majority decides. People don't listen to me when I make pushes so I won't be pushing anymore.

Hiplop what were you trying to say here?

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Why didn't you answer his question

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This early, it doesn't surprise me. I find it interesting Hiplop offers an explanation without voting, and Bella votes without explaining. Something about the vote from Bella especially feels off.

hiplop already had his vote on me.

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but I'm also null on Dwlee because they haven't done shit, and that's common for him, from what I remember from reading over his games.

zzz

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I don't know how I will be able to function in this game if a slot is commenting on their own posts.

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Dwlee is trying to look useful while being hella useless

Why didn't you answer his question

why would i?

So I can actually sort you zz

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I'm conftown

VOTE: simpleplan

hes not

>_>

[Dwlee99]

This game is gonna be a clown fiesta

@MC:

you figure out my alignment yet?

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Lol

You are town by default, until someone wagons you for a dumb reason and then I'll know for sure.

idk if two counts as a wagon but if so didnt that happen?

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gonna let vedith respond to this push

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I want to vote dwlee but the V/la...

? My vla started today but I will still have access at nights most likely

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: A simple plan

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Nacho [/nacho]

I'm dying

[Dwlee99]

Okay hey vacation posting raskol probtown still think asp is scum not really sure what to make of dragon's catchup cause he kinda responded to random things

[Dwlee99]

I hated the signature quote thing from dwlee, hence the vote. Feeling less aggrieved by the slot now but worth remembering.

I think murder could be town and the asp wagon is bad.

Going back to this

VOTE: dragon of the west

have more confidence in my not really rvs.

Hiplop never answered my question
Pretty much I interpreted the post by Hiplop as: "Robb says this but they are doing the opposite" which felt like a really bad post and I was trying to figure out if that was what Hiplop meant but he never said so

[Dwlee99]

What

[Dwlee99]

No u

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Claiming results so if you flip people know what u got

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I am targeting Dragon of the West

[Dwlee99]

Remember that I am targeting dragon of the west

[Dwlee99]

REMEMBER I AM TARGETING DRAGON

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Dragon I'm targeting you tonight

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I'm confused why he is using it as an excuse to not post content as well

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While I see the benefit to it, it really sounds like a mess and seems like it could go horribly. If hypo claims are made that are obviously faked, mafia will be able to PoE who is actually a PR role and who is not. Personally, I don't trust myself to fake hypo claims and be able to play through the game acting in a way that is consistent to what I've claimed (which is what you have to do to make sure scum don't know you're faking). This is only my third game D:

I am targeting you

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: hiplop
back to this

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Yes All In is conf scum.

youre face is confirmed scum

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stop stealing my quality memes
I actually have no problem with the DotW vote

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Yes All In is conf scum.

youre face is confirmed scum

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stop stealing my quality memes
I actually have no problem with the DotW vote

you should join the wagon. Your hiplop vote is doing nothing atm.

your face is doing nothing atm
Wow Im so funny

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: hiplop
back to this

Can you go into this?

Didnt like the post from hiplop criticizing robbnva's play this game and Im not liking the refusal to engage me on it.

[Dwlee99]

I saw that as either out of humour or "rubbing it in", he voted with him too and didn't seem to cast doubt or badmouth him through it, I thought it was a minor thing anyways.
I don't really get your perspective since literally everyone thinks its not substantial (and so him not "engaging you" on it is okay) but you scumread it and seem to have your read on that one thing.

If you said you scumread him for his interactions around you or in something else he did more noteworthy I could understand but this is kind of silly? Do you think everyone's except you is wrong in seeing this one thing differently?

It didnt sit right with me. It was just a mocking thing and I didnt understand it but hiplop refuses to engage me on it.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: nacho

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Im sheeping my town reads here.
VOTE: Kts

[Dwlee99]

Wagon speed is NAI ffs people

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If anyone says "This wagon is on town because it got votes fast" they are wrong and should feel wrong.

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God damn, I'm vla and I'm the one being sheeped...

I don't feel so great about it when a bunch of people just hop on without a lot of thought...

It's not like I posted a wall case or anything.

Easier for scum too...

lynching this is kts flips scum

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actually regardless of kts flip that posting by murdercat was bad
VOTE: Murdercat
let's see the wagon speed of this *eyeroll*

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actually regardless of kts flip that posting by murdercat was bad
VOTE: Murdercat
let's see the wagon speed of this *eyeroll*

What're your thoughts on KTS depending on murdercat flipping town/scum? I feel like if murder flipped scum it would point to KTS as a partner

KTS' alignment cant be determined from murdercat flip.
Murdercat's cold feet at the end of a wagon randomly like that is EXACTLY what scum me would be doing. See musical mafia where I get cold feet when Im about to lynch my partner after a ton of tunneling. See any of my scum games where I push a town lynch and then at the last minute have second thoughts and begin white knighting the person. Murdercat is scum, I know it. If I die, you lynch murdercat. Or, we could lynch murdercat right now. Either way we are lynching murdercat and if we dont Imma be so mad.

[Dwlee99]

The dragon wagon sucks, lynch murdercat.

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God damn, I'm vla and I'm the one being sheeped...

I THOUGHT YOU ASKED FOR A WAGON

YOU SCUMMY TOWN CREDIT MONGREL OF SOULS

And with that, I think Murder is town and that

VOTE: Hiplop

is scum

what the heck.
I stopped instinctively town reading people that town read me, btw, so trying to buddy me wont work anymore.
pedit not the way you did it, and Im not liking your reaction. Now youre trying to get a wagon on dragon now which is terribad. Either start showing me quality play and reads or Im forced to believe you are scum cause this isnt the murdercat I remember.
ppedit I SAID IN THAT POST THE INTERACTIONS WERE NULL KDMFNDND

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actually regardless of kts flip that posting by murdercat was bad
VOTE: Murdercat
let's see the wagon speed of this *eyeroll*

What're your thoughts on KTS depending on murdercat flipping town/scum? I feel like if murder flipped scum it would point to KTS as a partner

KTS' alignment cant be determined from murdercat flip.

Murdercat's cold feet at the end of a wagon randomly like that is EXACTLY what scum me would be doing. See musical mafia where I get cold feet when Im about to lynch my partner after a ton of tunneling. See any of my scum games where I push a town lynch and then at the last minute have second thoughts and begin white knighting the person. Murdercat is scum, I know it. If I die, you lynch murdercat. Or, we could lynch murdercat right now. Either way we are lynching murdercat and if we dont Imma be so mad.

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Idk tbh lol

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WHY IS DRAGON AT L 1
pedit stop

[Dwlee99]

KTS or murdercat. I guess if I need to I will hammer dragon cause of deadline but I really dont want to cause I hate the wagon.

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cause murdercat's cold feet was scummy af and his reaction was unnatural for murdercat, Im going to check rn but I dont seem to remember murdercat loling in any of his games yet he has been doing it a ton under pressure here. You because I didnt like your conclusion of him being town from his cold feet, could be white knighting not sure. The other thing about murdercat is not only did he get cold feet but then he is staying on the wagon it just doesnt seem to be a town mindset at all.

[Dwlee99]

Yea on second thought I dont want to lynch you today. But in a game I played before with murdercat (probably not actually normal mafia) they didnt say lol in response to pressure ONCE. In fact they said it 2 times in total during the game, 3 if you count him saying "lol I posted in the wrong game" but I dont. This game he has already posted it 8 friggin times.

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Im talking about the game modded by TSQ with 6 scum. I think you were in that game? But town!murdercat doesnt give fhat reaction when I push him for getting cold feet methinks.

[Dwlee99]

Shadow vote murdercat please

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If we dont lynch mc today Imma be livid

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why do, we lynvh murdercat
seriously people

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why dont we, phone posting op

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I already said, I will join the dragon wagon if I need to but it is stupid and murdercat needs rope.

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My "meta" was saying you never use the phrase lol. Finding you not using it as scum in a few games doesnt make it any less of a scum tell.
pedit didnt even get a claim. And I know dragon wasnt purposefully avoiding thread cause I live in the same house. good one

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Under pressure in other games you didnt say lol a billion times.

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Whatever, youre probably town. I did this push to read you lol

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I was super surprised dragon flipped scum lol
wp

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are u using meta to town read me. eh whatever leads u to a right conclusion

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I was assuming you were saying my scum meta is hard bussing and therefore me not joining the dragon wagon means I'm town. What are you saying then? lol

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as long as you're right that's all that matters, fam

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: asp

[Dwlee99]

Shadow_Step,

Raskolnikov

, Nachomamma8,

MURDERCAT

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dwlee99

, Killthestory

Shadow or nacho today.

[Dwlee99]

KTS *could* be the scum on the wagon but doubtful

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the day started less than a day ago so.. no

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Lets not be a quiet town here.

@Dwlee - 651 - Why Nacho or Shadow? Do you think you could be tunneling here?
I still don't think that Nacho would have killed HipLop as scum.

cause I think the wagon has scum on it.

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every wagon (or almost every) has scum on it. soooo
and I'm townreading murder and kinda townr eading kts whereas nacho and shadow eh

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: thejester

[Dwlee99]

n1 murdercat town
n2 raskol town

[Dwlee99]

UNVOTE:
uno momento

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I dislike how vedith and dragon have only one weak interaction, and then randomly vedith decides to declare intent and then place the wagon to l1.

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like, okay one sec

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Shadow I think is actually looking for scum. I don't think he is going into the right directions though.
Nacho I don't see as scum, I've only played a few games with him though so meta side I can't comment but it doesn't seem off, but I don't really see why others are voting him.
Out of the 3 leading wagons, KTS would be the best (Dragon lynch seems forced).

here he seems to be trying to disband the dragon wagon

but then later he just decides to put dragon to l-1 after declaring intent.
WITH NO MENTION of dragon in between!

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: vedith

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Their only time speaking to each other

how is ASP's entrance bad? It looks fine to me

Because he's voting Shadow Step, then likes where Shadow step is voting.
How does that look fine?

I think you can agree on a read with someone even when you're scumreading them. To discount whatever they say this early just because of your initial read on them would be dumb imo

And here is the progression from not liking the dragon lynch to being on it

@Vedith any comment on the nacho thing or on the other slots? What is your actual read on shadow?

Shadow I think is actually looking for scum. I don't think he is going into the right directions though.
Nacho I don't see as scum, I've only played a few games with him though so meta side I can't comment but it doesn't seem off, but I don't really see why others are voting him.
Out of the 3 leading wagons, KTS would be the best (Dragon lynch seems forced).

ASP on the other hand... Tries to make a wagon on me, fails and he gives up.
That's a scum tell in my book.

Jester I'm worried about, he's making it obvious that he wants to put no effort into the game. Personally I see this as a double bluff a roo McGee.

KTS is more fluff in game, a bit like Jester but looks a lot more fake and trying to hide it more.

Murdercat I'm not warming up to yet, didn't like the Nacho comment personal.

UNVOTE: ASP
This doesn't change my read on ASP

VOTE: KTS

God damn, I'm vla and I'm the one being sheeped...

Do you think it's a good wagon?
I would assume so considering your vote is still there.

don't feel so great about it

when a bunch of people just hop on without a lot of thought...

Yet your vote remains on KTS?

Also veid's post there looks stirry

In what way?
Don't you think it's a bit odd that he puts his vote on KTS when Nacho/Dragon look stronger as wagons, then when people start voting with him, he says that he likes it even less, but keeps his vote there.

VOTE: KTS

Sheepy and I think his read on me is fake. This is a real wagon that I want to happen.

God damn, I'm vla and I'm the one being sheeped...

This looks like a pre town credit vote imo.

18 hours to go

UNVOTE: KTS
Intent to hammer

VOTE: Dragon
That's back to L1.

The Murdercat lynch will not happen in the next 11 hours.
@Dwlee - Is a no lynch better than voting Dragon? Or are you willing to join this wagon?

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@Vedith any comment on the nacho thing or on the other slots? What is your actual read on shadow?

Shadow I think is actually looking for scum. I don't think he is going into the right directions though.
Nacho I don't see as scum, I've only played a few games with him though so meta side I can't comment but it doesn't seem off, but I don't really see why others are voting him.
Out of the 3 leading wagons, KTS would be the best (Dragon lynch seems forced).

ASP on the other hand... Tries to make a wagon on me, fails and he gives up.
That's a scum tell in my book.

Jester I'm worried about, he's making it obvious that he wants to put no effort into the game. Personally I see this as a double bluff a roo McGee.

KTS is more fluff in game, a bit like Jester but looks a lot more fake and trying to hide it more.

Murdercat I'm not warming up to yet, didn't like the Nacho comment personal.

UNVOTE: ASP
This doesn't change my read on ASP

VOTE: KTS

Another thing I just saw: Vedith mentions the dragon lynch seeming "forced" without ever providing reasoning about that thought despite him providing reasoning for every other read.

[Dwlee99]

MC vote vedith fam

[Dwlee99]

I'm not gonna explain shit. Fuck all y'all, gj for letting scum lead you. Vedith' scum and one of murder/kts for sure.

his vote makes sense with reads posted and the associative tells are p blatantly obvious.

[Dwlee99]

Not until Jester does something useful.

Dude cmon the associative tells are super obvious

[Dwlee99]

fine fair enough

[Dwlee99]

Why would you check all in n2?

[Dwlee99]

nvm reread ur post
pedit are you seripusly saying I am role fishing. You arent a 1 shot cop, no one ever has a one shot cop in the game. You had a check last night and you claimed it was all in, why did you check them?

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If you are a 2 or 3 shot cop and didnt check one of the nights your play is trash lol

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tfw someone tries to paint you as scummy for trying to get a confirmed town on someone on the dragon wagon
Dragon of the West (L-0): Bellaphant, The_Jester, Killthestory
if your claim is real and you have a clear on all in look at our scum pool.

[Dwlee99]

At least one of bella the jester and kts.

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So at least one of shadow / kts
and at least one of bella the jester and kts if you have a clear on all in
Pedit by scum pool I mean scum on the wagon, there is at least one

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bella has been lurking so I dont have a read there.
KTS I think is town just because he plays so haphazardly and while I think it is possible he could be scum trying.to.be seen town that way but I think it is unlikely.
Jester's recent posting feels like actually frustrated town and less like frustrated scum, I think his ate is legit and not fake. (#GenuineTellsFTW)
And shadow I have no opinion on I dont think he has done anything to really give me a read.
So Id say it is bella and shadow.

[Dwlee99]

Assuming youre town that is, oh and that you have a clear on all in BUT YOU WONT SAY zzz

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Bella
I want this now

[Dwlee99]

Every post theyve made has a question

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I had enough reasons to bus DOTW on day 1, I'm not scum.

what?

Bella might be scum thoughh, but I'm going to need a stronger case than lurking.

most of her posts are just asking questions she never follows up on

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Thanks for modding, plot, (one of) the best mods on site imo.