Open 646 - Semi Nightless - Game Over (D6)

[Rosske]

confirm! also i spent a few minutes searching through my inbox for a role pm that wasn't there and now i feel dumb

[Rosske]

I see a lot of careless scum rn.

Confirm

how can you see careless scum when nobody is scum yet?

[Rosske]

wow i had no idea this started.

VOTE: Thor665

Just gut.

I'll answer questions tomorrow if thats still a thing.

[Rosske]

not yet! only gut!

also 64 and 119 in juxtaposition

[Rosske]

weird that everyones suddenly concerned about niceness in mafia....last time I checked pot-stirring was a surefire way to agitate scum into revealing themselves. Making people emotional makes them less calculated. Making them less calculated makes them more likely to slip and reveal their alignment. It's a good thing. And if we all say nothing personal and hug after the game's over, no harm done, right? Look at how KTS is reacting right now, there's a lot there.

VOTE: killthestory

[Rosske]

Karnos, why aren't you voting for Thor?

[Rosske]

Io instigated the whole Thor vs Karnos argument, and then backed off satisfied when I got a few votes on my wagon.

Io was the

last

vote on your wagon that actually mattered, and Thor and I were voting for you before Io even said anything... She can't "back off satisfied when [you] got a few votes on [your] wagon" because there were no votes to get on your wagon...

If you're town, I think you're overanalyzing Io's actions

way

too much. But I really think that because of how you're overestimating the amount of pressure on you and how concerned you are about the way you look, you're thinking in a scum-mindset. I'd agree with Luna in that this needs to stop, but I don't think it's a TvT+T(+T? i'm here kinda).

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Anyway, crazy game we're having here, huh Rosske ? What do you think of Karnos? Post 339 tells me you might have some feelings worth telling us.

Transcend, in this game, who do you not have meta on?

???

[Rosske]

Io instigated the whole Thor vs Karnos argument, and then backed off satisfied when I got a few votes on my wagon.

Io was the

last

vote on your wagon that actually mattered, and Thor and I were voting for you before Io even said anything... She can't "back off satisfied when [you] got a few votes on [your] wagon" because there were no votes to get on your wagon...

If you're town, I think you're overanalyzing Io's actions

way

too much. But I really think that because of how you're overestimating the amount of pressure on you and how concerned you are about the way you look, you're thinking in a scum-mindset. I'd agree with Luna in that this needs to stop, but I don't think it's a TvT+T(+T? i'm here kinda).

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Anyway, crazy game we're having here, huh Rosske ? What do you think of Karnos? Post 339 tells me you might have some feelings worth telling us.

You asked what I think of Karnos and that 339 implies that I have more to say

....339 is Tenshii asking Transcend a question.

Did you make a typo?

[Rosske]

it looked to me Karnos was pushing Thor harder then Io, but voting Io, and that didn't make sense to me. So I asked.

Transcend, when did I contradict myself?

[Rosske]

okay so actually after all that
VOTE: Io

[Rosske]

so obviously if town doesn't wanna lose they all need to vote Io.


Come on Luna.

I can tell you want to vote Io.

So do it.

[Rosske]

Transcend when did you ever want to lynch Io? ESPECIALLY if your scum reading me so hard it's really strange how my vote influenced you that much.

[Rosske]

You said me voting Io makes you not want to lynch her anymore

[Rosske]

I'm hopping around because I'm having a hard time reading anyone really and I'm just trying to see what happens. You're being inconsistent now in your push on me. It's ironic that you call me opportunistic.

[Rosske]

yeah my vote should be on Io, not on Thor.

I also want to know why KTS is town-reading Transcend.

[Rosske]

Luna I'm reading you townier then I am KTS so that's why I'm more curious about why KTS is reading someone i think is weird as town. Right now understanding KTS's reasoning and motivation is more pressing to me than understanding yours. And KTS didn't give me much honestly unless I'm willing to blindly trust someone else's meta.

[Rosske]

Transcend, why are you voting for Luna?

[Rosske]

fuck off

very productive, nice

[Rosske]

Read the game you turdbasket.

Yeah I want you to elaborate because the reason you voted her initially was weak and empty and now you're revoting and I want to know what your thinking. Don't be so quick to assume you can just glide along in a townbloc.

[Rosske]

You don't want to explain it because its a shitty empty scum read. And the more you talk about it the more likely you'll reveal that its contrived.

[Rosske]

I never played these kinds of nightless games before. Are we in twilight or day two?

[Rosske]

VOTE: Killthestory

for hammering your buddy so obviously

[Rosske]

so is it going to be the same annoying bloc of 6 deciding every lynch lol

I'm voting KTS and I didn't vote Karnos. So not the same. And also Luna is town for sure. my only definite town read. It's Luna

[Rosske]

It certainly looks like sheeping seeing as you empty voted right after him. you really think Luna would have been first on the wagon for her own partner? You've already proven your reads are way off

[Rosske]

Why aren't Thor and Io voting? There's enough information out there that anybody should be able to place a vote

[Rosske]

LEMMING LEMMING LEMMING

VOTE: PhantomColbalt


Oops did I lynch?

I think not yet.

L-1 maybe?

[Rosske]

what's going on guys? this game is dragging. Maybe we should just lynch Transcend.

[Rosske]

yeah okay I was joking before about lynching Transcend but I'm not joking anymore.

VOTE: Transcend

Lynch this obvscum already or else we'll all look stupid

[Rosske]

okay lets hammer kts

VOTE: Killthestory

[Rosske]

VOTE: Transcend


I know my alignment. Transcend is active lurking, discrediting and manipulating information.

[Rosske]

me too!

VOTE: PhantomCobalt


How long will this twilight take?

[Rosske]

How is Transcend active lurking or manipulating?

He's posting a lot without saying anything, and he's using appeals to emotions to taint information in the color he wants

[Rosske]

You're discrediting me by comparing us thor. The amount of content I contribute doesn't change anything about his alignment. And the point remains that most of his posts aren't saying anything.

[Rosske]

No, I thought it was weird that Karnos was pushing Thor without voting him, I was pushing it because it felt like a scum move. It's very easy and very scum to take quotes and add little "peeks inside Rosske's mind" to make everything I do look scummy.

I don't really think you're town Transcend but if you are you're putting up a smokescreen by pushing me. I didn't participate in the twilight? That's scummy? I wasn't here! Since when was activity indicative of alignment?

[Rosske]

VOTE: Transcend


Everything you post makes me more confident about this

[Rosske]

Transcend is pushing me the exact same way he pushed KTS. And look how that turned out. It seems like he has a tendacy to just put on blinders and push one specific person towards lynch. And then he covers up his blatant subversiveness with empty smokescreens of unfriendliness. We're meant to be too distracted by his negative tone to actually pay attention to his actions in this game.

[Rosske]

I'm town, Transcend. If the only way for you to believe that is lynching me than something is seriously ***ed up in your process. Your tunneling on me is making me tunnel right back on you, because I know how much you've enjoyed lynching town in this game. But is Transcend scum or is Transcend just stupid, that is the question.

Anyone firmly townreading Transcend is welcome to convince me to join a different wagon.

[Rosske]

I didn't push PC at all, and I only voted him long after he was already hammered. It was irrelevant.

Also, I don't have much of a read on Tenshii, I'm too blinded by Transcend's rampant scuminess and Tenshii has been very safe and very neutral.

[Rosske]

People are scum reading me based on the level of my contribution versus my....you know....actual alignment.

Transcend is tunneled so hard on me that it really gives me a hard time believing he's town. In this game he lynches people that he is oh-so-certain that they're scum, and they the flip town. And he goes oops I f***ed up and keeps on floating by in the "town bloc"

[Rosske]

gigabyte finding reasons to discredit my meta is scummy.

[Rosske]

The problem is I don't have multiple strong scum reads. Transcend I feel pretty good about. Maybe giga? I'm not sure. I'm struggling this game a lot and that's probably why scum are pushing me. I look like an easy mislynch.

[Rosske]

I feel like IF transcend is town, he's playing very destructively, and scum could likely use that to fuel their own anti-town motives, and I feel like you're most likely to be guilty of that.

I think Io could have been killed by defensive scum. A scum who's worried about people being on their trail could kill a neutral, middle of the road player like Io in order to reveal as little as possible about their identity. It also could have been done to frame Thor, seeing as people immediately questioned why he wasn't the target.

[Rosske]

In response to people saying I voted opportunistically or without reason in day 1.

It's pretty much true. But it doesn't make me scum.

I didn't really have any strong reads on day 1. I jumped onto wagons and cast votes in order to apply pressure and see what would come back to me, in hopes of getting better reads. I wasn't voting for lynches as much as I was voting in search of information.

Totally get while you can scum read me for that, but that's what I was thinking. Part of my scum read on Transcend is in response to how quickly he snapped up scum-looking behavior from me.

[Rosske]

gigabyte finding reasons to discredit my meta is scummy.

You discrediting Gigabyte's analysis is scummy.
Me discrediting your discredit is scummy.

No - Gigabyte's issues with your meta clear are concise, clear, and very valid points - it is not scummy at all.
You not actually discussing the reasoning behind Wing and me rough clearing you is vastly more scummy than what Giga is doing.
Why aren't you discussing your meta?

I look like an easy mislynch.

You are an easy lynch.
Could you do something about that?

I feel like IF transcend is town, he's playing very destructively, and scum could likely use that to fuel their own anti-town motives, and I feel like you're most likely to be guilty of that.

Does that jive with his interactions with Karnos? You think that looks like a bus?

@Rosske - why is it when I ask you a question I don't get a response?
Answer some questions and pretend to be more pro town than Transcend who doesn't look town at all, please and thank you.

The best way for me to stop looking like an easy lynch is to get better at playing this game, which isn't going to happen overnight. After this game I'm probably gonna head back to newbie games. I don't mean to ignore your questions, I just don't always have an answer.

Like, it could have been a bus? it might not have been? And what do I have to say about my meta over then people that I saying I'm playing this game like I did when I was town are correct in their deduction? At the same time tho, this is a different game. I'm playing differently this game. I can't get any reads, I spent a huge chunk of the game just being confused by the mod. Maybe I'm being selfish for wanting to stick it out and see what I can get out of it, maybe if I had replaced out someone else could have contributed more. But I'm trying

Thor, how sure are you that Transcend is town? How likely would it be for two town players to death tunnel in on each other like we've done?

[Rosske]

gigabyte finding reasons to discredit my meta is scummy.

You discrediting Gigabyte's analysis is scummy.
Me discrediting your discredit is scummy.

No - Gigabyte's issues with your meta clear are concise, clear, and very valid points - it is not scummy at all.
You not actually discussing the reasoning behind Wing and me rough clearing you is vastly more scummy than what Giga is doing.
Why aren't you discussing your meta?

I look like an easy mislynch.

You are an easy lynch.
Could you do something about that?

I feel like IF transcend is town, he's playing very destructively, and scum could likely use that to fuel their own anti-town motives, and I feel like you're most likely to be guilty of that.

Does that jive with his interactions with Karnos? You think that looks like a bus?

@Rosske - why is it when I ask you a question I don't get a response?
Answer some questions and pretend to be more pro town than Transcend who doesn't look town at all, please and thank you.

The best way for me to stop looking like an easy lynch is to get better at playing this game, which isn't going to happen overnight. After this game I'm probably gonna head back to newbie games. I don't mean to ignore your questions, I just don't always have an answer.

Like, it could have been a bus? it might not have been? And what do I have to say about my meta over then people that I saying I'm playing this game like I did when I was town are correct in their deduction? At the same time tho, this is a different game. I'm playing differently this game. I can't get any reads, I spent a huge chunk of the game just being confused by the mod. Maybe I'm being selfish for wanting to stick it out and see what I can get out of it, maybe if I had replaced out someone else could have contributed more. But I'm trying

Thor, how sure are you that Transcend is town? How likely would it be for two town players to death tunnel in on each other like we've done?

[Rosske]

Mod: I need to replace out. Sorry for any inconvenience, it was fun playing with everyone.