Open 646 - Semi Nightless - Game Over (D6)

[Killthestory]

oh, I guess I don't receive my role PM yet.

Don't I get banned for not reading my role PM? :^ )

[Killthestory]

confirm! also i spent a few minutes searching through my inbox for a role pm that wasn't there and now i feel dumb

We all did that.

[Killthestory]

VOTE: Transcend

[Killthestory]

quickhammer within 5 pages

[Killthestory]

because i said so

[Killthestory]

gut townreads are great.

i don't think you're playing with the same player as you were before.

[Killthestory]

but again

because i said so

[Killthestory]

1. Do you get your reads typically from gut or evidence? either

2. How would you describe your level of experience? 60-70

3. When trying to get a better read on a specific player, do prefer you reread the entire thread or just their ISO? ISO

5. What's your opinion on Lynch All Liars? Lynch All Lurkers? Policy lynches in general? lynch all liars is good because unless town has a good reason to lie, then they shouldn't be lying. i mean a good, logical reason, too.

6. Do you think it's a good idea to utilize all of the time allotted by a deadline? no

7. Are you scum? lol

VOTE: gigabyeTroubadour

[Killthestory]

by 60-70 i'm referring to games played

[Killthestory]

at least your skillful enough to see how obvtown i am

[Killthestory]

VOTE: /vote Thor

[Killthestory]

; )

[Killthestory]

i'm glad you people saw what I saw many pages ago.

[Killthestory]

Am I not allowed to swear?

[Killthestory]

Am I not allowed to swear?

[Killthestory]

oh my god so many long posts that are literally ALL FILLER.

why can't any of you be concise?

[Killthestory]

I SAID NO MORE WALLS

VOTE: Thor

[Killthestory]

You just confirmed yourself as scum.

[Killthestory]

Stop posting, scum. You're shitting up this thread.

[Killthestory]

Lol you think I'm applying pressure.

I'm here to lynch you, not do some baby shit where I pressure you to get a read on you.

[Killthestory]

I guess KTS doesn't do sarcasm.
I like Tenshii on maybe town.

I feel the opposite on Tenshii, but that's just gut. I think he's town, logically.

[Killthestory]

townhunting is a tool just like scumhunting

use both

[Killthestory]

lol Kcdaspot's reads are trash. i'm obvtown as fuck

[Killthestory]

wait, on second thought, their entire play is trash.

[Killthestory]

i'm up for the idea of PLing Kcdaspot.

I haven't been apart of a good PL for ages.

[Killthestory]

yeah literally ignore everything they're saying right now because Townhunting can be just as effective as Scumhunting. They're both tools at your disposal.

[Killthestory]

Don't be mean about how others play the game. All approaches to the game are allowed and fully encouraged. Just because someone isn't doing a common strategy doesn't make them any less of a player or person. Be nice.

[Killthestory]

I'm gonna start ignoring Kcdaspot because I don't like their play. Any objections to that or?

[Killthestory]

I don't have a problem with your playstyle. I have a problem with you.

Fate and Kuribo are enjoyable people to play with. You are not. This is very simple.

[Killthestory]

Not to be mean or anything, but don't use basic out of game stuff as something AI. Because I posted something about being nice to all people regardless of their playstyle doesn't mean you have to use that as me getting towncred or anything.

[Killthestory]

And this is exactly why I want to ignore you. You're not even doing good with your reads when you do shit like that, and it doesn't make you any more obvious town.

[Killthestory]

I'm pretty sure this forum has got to have some sort of foe option

[Killthestory]

Dammit, it doesn't ignore the player.

I might just build my own code that will help me ignore you.

[Killthestory]

I'm not digging anywhere because I'm clearly obvious town.

Like, maybe I'd like you a little if you had correct reads.

But you don't.

All of your reads are terrible.

[Killthestory]

clearly town

[Killthestory]

You're arguments are falling inwards. I'm not attacking you. I'm attacking your reads which is your argument. Your argument is literally, "yur scum this is my playstyle ur scum."

Then you bump Luna off the scumlist for being a good person? Yeah, alright, sure.

No, I'm not getting lynched.

[Killthestory]

I'm obv town

[Killthestory]

lol no that's stupid

People don't 'slip' because they get angry. People slip under a certain condition that can't be premeditated or calculated because mafia is a game all about open perspectives and non-linear thinking.

[Killthestory]

Karnos is town.

[Killthestory]

VOTE: Io

[Killthestory]

because

[Killthestory]

PC isn't confirmed scum by the way.

Their Karnos vote looked like RVS, and then they decided to townread Karnos after some pressure was applied to him.

[Killthestory]

sure

[Killthestory]

id lolhammer him because it'd be a nice meme

[Killthestory]

don't you use jontron for your stale memes

[Killthestory]

Why would you park your vote on a townread who is L-2 and has the potential to get LOLhammered?

Who do you expect to do the lol hammer?

lol obv me

[Killthestory]

lol saying my play is different when he's never even played with me

[Killthestory]

I've realized I have a slight perdicament. I can't decide if PC, Kill, or Kranos is the VI.
I'm thinking Kill right now, but I'm currently OK with all 3 of them being lynched.
Everyone else is either Town, not scummy, or just not posting looking at you Rass.

This coming directly after my vote.

[Killthestory]

I AM CHANNELING

MAGENTA WOLF!

[Killthestory]

I've realized I have a slight perdicament. I can't decide if PC, Kill, or Kranos is the VI.
I'm thinking Kill right now, but I'm currently OK with all 3 of them being lynched.
Everyone else is either Town, not scummy, or just not posting looking at you Rass.

This coming directly after my vote.

I don't really care about your vote enough to say you're town because of that.
Kranos is just overtly scummy so that means with er you or PC are just a bad townie. And as I said earlier I'm not as confident that you are scum with your interaction with Kc.

I'm not bad.

Scumread me if you want, but don't call me bad. Please.

V/LA till the 20th

[Killthestory]

my right ass cheek hurts.

also, town loses this game if they continue to play the way they're playing.

[Killthestory]

What happened to when I was defending your playstyle : (?

[Killthestory]

Stop stop stop stop stop.

Town is constantly fighting town. This is getting stupid.

Townbloc: Luna, Transcend, Karnos, Kcda, Tenshii, Giga.

I chose all the players I personally like as town, or players that aren't yet being accused as scum by anyone. So

@Townbloc,

Who's your biggest scumread, and who's your biggest townread. Which wagons would you agree to vote on, and which wagons wouldn't you agree with?

[Killthestory]

how are you townreading Io, Rosske, and Thor?

[Killthestory]

Io doesn't feel genuine at all? He feels like scum from how passive he is. That's not genuine.

Rosske hasn't done much to deserve a townread. A couple filler posts, no real scumhunting, etc.

[Killthestory]

PC is definitely scummy, but that doesn't mean Rosske can't be scummy either.

Rosske has literally done nothing to deserve a townread. No original or valid opinions, and nothing of substance from him.

[Killthestory]

It should probably fall off now since there hasn't been a point where Rosske has even touched the stairs. This dude is literally fucking falling down the stairs and cannot take anymore steps up it because his legs are broken as fuck.

[Killthestory]

lol you just proved my point that being passive isn't being genuine. Passivity is much easier to accomplish as scum than aggressivenessssss, but you weren't even that aggressive.

[Killthestory]

luna is being townread by all when i think she's a reasonably decent candidate for scum. but my vote is vain at this point andi like the points you make about rosske, they more or less parallel mine. with that said i'm comfortable changing my vote.

VOTE: Rosske

You're in the nice little Townbloc, go look at my questions.

[Killthestory]

tfw Thor says literally everything I've said.

[Killthestory]

Because this loos like town!transcend

[Killthestory]

i hope someone floats my boat

[Killthestory]

boat my float

[Killthestory]

chicken my jerk

[Killthestory]

VOTE: thor

wrong answer

[Killthestory]

ill filler however the fuck i want to fo

[Killthestory]

sure

[Killthestory]

I FEEL LIKE QUICKHAMMERING

VOTE: KARNOS

good night

[Killthestory]

so how are you all today

[Killthestory]

Btw, @kts: how often do you lol hammer as town?

I make it my duty to hammer any L-1 regardless of my alignment or the other persons alignment.

[Killthestory]

I don't really know who that is, but sure.

[Killthestory]

Ah. If it makes you feel any better, I waited for a while to hammer, so it made a lot of discussion. Anyone could have unvoted.

Still, I took a blood oath.

[Killthestory]

fuck that means i have to selfhammer

[Killthestory]

no please

[Killthestory]

please

[Killthestory]

why would I quick hammer my scum buddy

Think before you post

[Killthestory]

well, yeah,but I'm not even sure I have the balls to quick hammer him like that. I'd probably just park my vote on him if he was my bud.

[Killthestory]

Everything is alignment indicative even if it isn't.

[Killthestory]

I'm going to tunnel you tomorrow if he flips scum because your logic is terrible.

[Killthestory]

There is no logic there that can sensibly say I'm scum with Karnos reasonably.

[Killthestory]

My reaction wasn't terrible at all.
Fluff posting is NAI until you look at the meta.
I never chain sawed him.

[Killthestory]

I attacked Thor before Karnos did. Chain sawing my ass.

I hope someone eats your liver when Karnos flips town.

[Killthestory]

Didn't you agree with me at the time?

[Killthestory]

Because his argument was a basis on his obnoxiousness.

You attacking me is opportunistic as fuck,

[Killthestory]

I'm confident he's town

[Killthestory]

terrible logic.

[Killthestory]

everything

[Killthestory]

I don't even know what TIL means but it sounds terrible.

[Killthestory]

everything about that is terrible

[Killthestory]

that sounds terrible

[Killthestory]

that's because I was too blind to see that everything is terrible

[Killthestory]

lol

[Killthestory]

Oh man that game was hilarious when I got Ranger NKed, but that's not the game Luna's referring to.

[Killthestory]

idk I felt like it

[Killthestory]

why do I say literally so much?

Also my boy fuck down there, ayy lmao

[Killthestory]

Also holy shit I do say terrible and everything a lot

[Killthestory]

dont blame your negative words on me

[Killthestory]

HOLY SHIT HE FLIPPED GOON.

dude i deserve to self hammer at this point

[Killthestory]

like i hope you guys win but at the same time im not scum lmao im just really misguided town

i thought karnos was town and didnt like the hammer but holy fuck thats funny

[Killthestory]

i mean sure but that was a really good day 1

god damn

VOTE: Luna

[Killthestory]

i dont want to be a musketeer with you

i'll be the revenant

[Killthestory]

i was pretty townread until i apparently 'bussed' karnos, so i dont have literally anything to gain

[Killthestory]

sped up the lynch process does not help me

[Killthestory]

no it doesnt, not in a nightless setup.

plus, karnos wasnt in immediate danger of being lynched.

[Killthestory]

why would i 1v1 them when i can just convince everyone else im town.

1v1ing them will just shit up the thread

[Killthestory]

lmao

[Killthestory]

no ty

[Killthestory]

i wanna hammer

[Killthestory]

you can lynch me idc just kill luna or rosske later

i dont like gigabye either, but we have 4 mislynches and giga can easily b scum.

[Killthestory]

I think Giga is scum.

[Killthestory]

Luna Fox L-3 - Killthestory, Transcend, PhantomCobalt
Killthestory L-1 - Rosske, gigabyte, mhsmith0, Luna Fox, Tenshii
Not Voting - Thor, Io

Killthestory is at L-1! One more vote is required to lynch!

[Killthestory]

oh no im at l-1 whatever shall i do

[Killthestory]

it's because i'm clearly town af

VOTE: PC

[Killthestory]

because clearly

you ask too many questions

[Killthestory]

mhm's questions are stupid and make me want to lynch him because of it.

[Killthestory]

fo sho

[Killthestory]

thanks man

[Killthestory]

because i know i'm not scum so i have to survive to prevent a mislynch?

how stupid can you be.

[Killthestory]

no i just think lunas more town that phantom is.

towntells can be faked.

[Killthestory]

because i know i'm not scum so i have to survive to prevent a mislynch?

how stupid can you be.

Except we have multiple mislynches we can afford before we lose. So while surviving is nice as town, it's not remotely necessary to win. As a wolf, on the other hand, survival is absolutely paramount. So if you're showing survivalistic tendencies, then yes that's suspicious. In this situation, it absolutely has to be.

I don't want to be mislynched.

If you don't care about mislynches, then I'll mislynch you and we'll call it a day.

@Giga, Townslips can be faked. I've done it plenty of times.

[Killthestory]

because i know i'm not scum so i have to survive to prevent a mislynch?

how stupid can you be.

Except we have multiple mislynches we can afford before we lose. So while surviving is nice as town, it's not remotely necessary to win. As a wolf, on the other hand, survival is absolutely paramount. So if you're showing survivalistic tendencies, then yes that's suspicious. In this situation, it absolutely has to be.

I don't want to be mislynched.

If you don't care about mislynches, then I'll mislynch you and we'll call it a day.

@Giga, Townslips can be faked. I've done it plenty of times.

The issue is, you seem to be MORE concerned w your own survival than actually finding the last wolf. No one wants to be mislynches, and being somewhat survivalistic can be acceptable, but especially in this context (no prs) survival is less concerning than finding the correct lynch. A townie focus is more outward; yours seems to be more inward. Am I wrong about this observation of your behavior? Or do you disagree that the townie focus should be outward and aggressive instead of inward and defensive?

Also, please explain how you got "you don't care about mislynches" from my original statement?

I think that wolf is between 3-4 people, and that if I live it's between 2-3 people, and that a 33-50~ chance of hitting scum by just guessing is p sweet. Scumhunting wise, it's a definitive 50-50.

VOTE: Transcend

[Killthestory]

1. Transcend - potential scum
2. Thor665 - conf town
3. Kcdaspot mhsmith0 - need to look at posts
4. Zyf gigabyteTroubadour - potential scum
5. PhantomCobalt - conf town
6. Killthestory - conf town obv
7. Io - conf town
8. Tenshii - need to look at posts
9. karnos Lynched D1, Mafia Goon - conf town
10. Rosske - potential scum
11. Luna Fox - conf town

[Killthestory]

i think tenshii is likely scum.

[Killthestory]

mhsmith conf town.

[Killthestory]

most likely scum: tenshii
second best: transcend, rosske.
last: giga.

rest is conf town.

[Killthestory]

no im lying tenshii is town, rosske most likely scum, move giga up.

i felt like contributing.

[Killthestory]

no

[Killthestory]

why do you change opinions on me so fast when I vote you?

[Killthestory]

i didn't change my opinion

but if you're gonna vote me when you have votes and not vote who i'm voting then..... am i supposed to lynch myself?

yes

[Killthestory]

You're going to die.

[Killthestory]

p sure the transcend I know would replace out before accepting a lynch ;')

[Killthestory]

Stop playing games.

[Killthestory]

i hope town loses this

[Killthestory]

why is it that I'm always lynched when I play games with you, Transcend, but I rarely ever get lynched anywhere else.

[Killthestory]

kill me already

[Killthestory]

actually

townbloc is transcend, PC, Luna, and you can have someone else there i dont care.

do i have a chance to live this?

[Killthestory]

He only lolhammers day 1 he said

Did I say that?

Io can go in my townbloc b4 I die

[Killthestory]

yeah but ill selfhammer later.

[Killthestory]

my vote is a tool, not a measure of where i lie in terms of opiion.

[Killthestory]

opinion*

[Killthestory]

could easily see Io or Tenshii NKed so not sure what you're going on about

[Killthestory]

tafadaw

[Killthestory]

when am i going to be put out of my misery

[Killthestory]

oh I'm dead?

bah

[Killthestory]

oh wait nevermind I'm not dead

[Killthestory]

I'm town.

[Killthestory]

nah just kidding I'm scum lol

[Killthestory]

Gotta wait for mod to post to end the game.

GG

Town bloc as it stands is Tenshii, Townscend, Luna, Giga, and Io,

[Killthestory]

Also thor

[Killthestory]

Transcend, Luna, and Giga are all confirmed town from their reactions. Tenshii is widely town read, and I don't see him as scum. Io and Thor are very likely not to be scum.

That leaves PC and Rosske, I think. Rosske could be town from the township, so lynch PC tommorow. Rosske's hammer on me was iffy as fuck though.

[Killthestory]

Oh, Mhs can be town, but he's my weakest town read followed by Tenshii

[Killthestory]

Btw I'm town.

[Killthestory]

Mhs just dropped because only wolves would know I was town, and he didn't post to say I was going to be town.

Therefore, he's a definitive lynch.

[Killthestory]

Tenshii is just obvtown as fuck t b h.

Again, if you don't see that, more reason to why Mhs is scum.

[Killthestory]

I saw that which is why you aren't the first two lynches.

[Killthestory]

Someone else can explain why Tenshii's town if they want.

Tenshii is probably my second weakest town read. He'd be optimal four lymch,

[Killthestory]

Smith goes before Tenshii

[Killthestory]

Wrong.

[Killthestory]

Nobody else but those four can possibly be scum.

[Killthestory]

damn sad was lynched.

[Killthestory]

nah this is a loss