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Post Post #40 (isolation #0) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:59 am

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In post 1, Nexus wrote:It means we're fucked. The Pound is already at an all time low level.

It's been used as a political points scoring tool, and it basically all anti-immigrant rhetoric.

Scared about what is going to happen.
In post 2, Thestatusquo wrote:This is a momentous occasion. We just watched a little bit of the world burn.
In post 7, Shiro wrote:
In post 5, Thestatusquo wrote:Also I feel for Scotland, who unanimously voted to remain and gets fucked anyway.
There is word that Scotland might be having another independence referendum after this.
In post 11, Korts wrote:On the bright side, Ireland may finally be unified.
In post 13, ChannelDelibird wrote:I'm in tears. I don't know how to deal with this. All of the rights and privileges that my generation should have had are being burned down, one by one, by those who benefited from them.

I don't really want to leave behind the people and cultural connections that I have to the UK, but it feels untenable. I want to live somewhere inclusive with socialised healthcare. Now I guess I have to find somewhere new - probably in Europe, but who's to say, with the extra instability that will now come to the whole of the EU, that anywhere to which I move stays that way? And I don't even know what career I would take there, because I don't want this one any more. Buying a house feels like such a distant dream.

Honestly, right now, it's impossible to know what it is I'm supposed to be looking forward to.
These quotes pretty much sum up how I'm feeling right now. I really don't know what is going to happen, but it doesn't look good.
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Post Post #314 (isolation #1) » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:30 am

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Labour were irrelevant anyway. They were basically became a shit version of the Tory Party.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:31 am

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Also, that ignores the fact that you don't vote for a Prime Minister, you vote for a local representative.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #3) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:50 am

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In post 330, zoraster wrote:
In post 328, Davsto wrote:
In post 327, zoraster wrote:I don't know why it doesn't support the idea he would result in low Labour votes if he were to remain in power.
How about the fact that the categories are divided by "voting intention", meaning that even those Labour ones who say that May would make a better leader are still planning on voting Labour anyway (because most people vote for a
party
that fits with their politics rather than for the rather changeable leader)?
I absolutely believe that's the case. Most people in a party will vote for the party that fits their politics rather than the leader. It's logical and makes sense to do so. But that doesn't win elections. That's a very baseline of support, and in anything approaching a marginal constituency, you're going to suffer if your leader -- the person you're putting forward as the next PM -- is seen even by those in your party as not being up for the job.

Regardless, that isn't responsive to the other chart that shows across every age demographic May is seen as making a better PM. I do not get how that doesn't trouble you deeply if you're Labour.
Labour don't get in right now. Politics have swung to the right and they aren't going to beat the Tory's on that. The alternative is to build a strong base of left-wing voters so when the political scene swings back they are in a good position. Corbyn won't be PM, but neither would any other Labour MP
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