Gistou (Over!)

[Wake1]

Were you responding to D2 posts when you confirmed me or did you actually target me with a Nation check? This needs to be addressed as well (it IS important). Thank you.

How was it not obvious that I targeted you with a Nation check?

You're literally the only player thus far who outright claimed Northern Tribes faction besides me.

Because I BLOODY told you the COLOUR of the PM before you even disd yourself, and I did it PRECISELY to keep YOU in the light! You're NOT READING ANYTHING I SAY, my friend.

HOWEVER, the fact that you DID visit me and are still alive confirms you as a Northern Tribes Faction member (there's some good in your goofy play after all). I deliberately left that part out so as to use it on people who would claim to have targeted me.

I'm a PGO, but my ability activates on everyone who is NOT of my own faction. I had hoped someone would claim they visited me and got something different so I could wipe the floor with them, but you took that bit out too.

Seriously, Wake! What do/did you need more to convince you I was not only on your side, but of the very same faction with an identical win con to yours? Why is it so hard top work with you, man?

I'm a Veteran of Mafia.

I have... STORIES.

*BREAKS DOWN SOBBING*

[Heartless]

If bacde watched ASOIAF how did he know Klingon investigated her?

Watchers only learn which player targeted your target: not what the action itself was.

i'm assuming he's claiming some sort of watcher+voyeur combo? at first glance that seems a little op to be town...

also, kling was his slot and i guess he showed up on his own results

[Wake1]

So a PGO can kinda fit in with the 5-kill narrative.

...and no dead Northerners.

How did you like that, you hairless bitches?

We'll just break A50's next somewhere down the line just to make sure...

[RachMarie]

yeah I have my doubts on that claim especially with the bg action being redirected

[RachMarie]

which is why I suggested we lynch LLD and I race check bacde

[Wake1]

If bacde watched ASOIAF how did he know Klingon investigated her?

Watchers only learn which player targeted your target: not what the action itself was.

i'm assuming he's claiming some sort of watcher+voyeur combo? at first glance that seems a little op to be town...

also, kling was his slot and i guess he showed up on his own results

'Cept he never claimed Voyeur.

He only claimed Watcher.

...it's ain't gonna bode well for you if bacde flips Scum.

[Heartless]

ok so night 1 results seems fine

what happened on night 2?

[Bacde]

If bacde watched ASOIAF how did he know Klingon investigated her?

Watchers only learn which player targeted your target: not what the action itself was.

How can you possibly misinterpret this?

I saw someone visiting with a "night action"
I saw other people visiting with a "check"

I don't know what the night action was, and I don'tknow what the check was

holy cow

its so simple but you guys are purposely trying to make it hard

[Wake1]

yeah I have my doubts on that claim especially with the bg action being redirected

Is there any evidence of a bg action or a redirection or are we playing that fun game where we guess with wordspeak?

[MathBlade]

WAIT. Rach and Bacde stop for a moment.

Rach: RAM was a Redirector. What if they redirected from themselves onto Luna? That would explain why Bacde saw Nosferatu AND RachMarie go visit Luna. Yes? Is this possible? Mastin can you confirm?

...

No. Just no.

A redirector works by changing where the originating player goes. If they redirected any actions they performed on Luna to themselves then they would just get whatever check they did on themselves.

What is more likely is RAM redirected Luna onto herself and there could be a bus driver. In other words, this entire situation is fucked up and everyone is better off reading the players than the mechanics.

That being said here is what I think we can get:

What is actually more intriguing is that Stormblade AND Luna are dead at the start of the day.

This means Stormblade was likely killed by a strongman. If we assume 5 kills a night technically two kills could have been aimed at Stormblade but I doubt they would have been that bravado about confirming what LLD said.

Luna's death is equally surprising because I would have expected a faction cop to get some Doctor love if one exists last night. The fact they are dead says a lot. Now let's assume Rach Marie did check RAM as I am town reading them atm, then I would have expected them to hit Luna if bus driven.

Then they would issue a kill order on RAM thinking it would hit Luna. On the off chance Bacde is town then likely someone who visited RAM issued a kill order meant for Luna. This actually makes me put a rather large FoS on Nosferatu as scum (or my Rach Marie read is wrong but I doubt it.) But then RAM died so they either did redirection bullshit on top of that mess probably to redirect Luna onto herself or there is another strongman.

Either way there are a million goddamn possibilities. Let's actually *gasp* scum hunt rather than mechanics hunt.

[Heartless]

If bacde watched ASOIAF how did he know Klingon investigated her?

Watchers only learn which player targeted your target: not what the action itself was.

i'm assuming he's claiming some sort of watcher+voyeur combo? at first glance that seems a little op to be town...

also, kling was his slot and i guess he showed up on his own results

'Cept he never claimed Voyeur.

He only claimed Watcher.

...it's ain't gonna bode well for you if bacde flips Scum.

uh yeah, and he's claiming to be able to distinguish between checks and whatever other night actions

which he proved to me by knowing we checked fire hydra on night 1.

[Bacde]

If bacde watched ASOIAF how did he know Klingon investigated her?

Watchers only learn which player targeted your target: not what the action itself was.

i'm assuming he's claiming some sort of watcher+voyeur combo? at first glance that seems a little op to be town...

also, kling was his slot and i guess he showed up on his own results

'Cept he never claimed Voyeur.

He only claimed Watcher.

...it's ain't gonna bode well for you if bacde flips Scum.

how can you possibly fos heartless for confirming a fucking check???

EVERYONE HAS A CHECK ACTION

[Heartless]

If bacde watched ASOIAF how did he know Klingon investigated her?

Watchers only learn which player targeted your target: not what the action itself was.

How can you possibly misinterpret this?

I saw someone visiting with a "night action"
I saw other people visiting with a "check"

I don't know what the night action was, and I don'tknow what the check was

holy cow

its so simple but you guys are purposely trying to make it hard

you never explicitly said this

[RachMarie]

RAM flipped redirector but only could do one action Wake

[Wake1]

Eh, bacde is Klingon.

If you ARE Scum you better stay on your toes.

[MathBlade]

However if Bacde is scum then their watcher shit is as useless as an empty role of toilet paper.

[Wake1]

RAM flipped redirector but only could do one action Wake

Meaning he couldn't do a flavor check at the same time?

[Heartless]

i don't think bacde is making up the results

but i am kinda wondering why he never made much of an effort to push nos when from his pov he presumably would've been luna's killer

[MathBlade]

However no...That is equally puzzling as a bus driver should toy with investigatives.

Like let's just fucking scumhunt:

[RachMarie]

I think he is Heartless because I VISITED AND CHECKED RAM I was no where near Luna

[RachMarie]

no I meant he could only redirect one action not both

sorry about not being clear Wake

[Wake1]

What we do know is LLD must die today.

I demand some Wulden boots and by God I will have that pelt.

[Heartless]

I think he is Heartless because I VISITED AND CHECKED RAM I was no where near Luna

ok

and you got "nosferatu" as your result

so... you didn't get redirected

[RachMarie]

no I think the bg got redirected

so luna died

[Heartless]

well shit maybe he did make it up...