In post 6149, Wake1 wrote:If bacde watched ASOIAF how did he know Klingon investigated her?
Watchers only learn which player targeted your target: not what the action itself was.
1- Klingoncelt IS Bacde FGS!
2- In THIS game they probably have "X visited your target with an ACTION" and "Y visited your target with a CHECK".
3- We don't even need to dwell more on Bacde. They're confirmed SCUM, so you're trying to prove the FACT. What we do need is to discuss others who have been skating way under the radar.
Also, we need to work together with our night checks. Like.. you, me & rb have opted to check on Nations pre-game, so the 3 of us should probably agree to target 3 different players, and one of those who can also Nation check but has not claimed it can check on one of the three just to confirm the result for themselves (i.e. they should NOT confirm it in the open as long as it coincides with the result they've got).
Also also I will repeat this, To the two Heroes alive: do NOT out yourselves. In fact, you may also want to ignore my advice about targeting certain players tonight, bc there might be some redirection and/or watching aimed to out you or screw with your night actions. The NORTH hero can safely visit me to verify I'm also Human... if they want to.
My current town block consists of (in order of appearance on the players list): Mathblade, Wake, Tim, ASoIaf, eb, Expedience, Toog & "one mysterious player". (But, by all means feel free to check on them if you wish).
My lynch pool for today is Bacde/LLD. Anyone not mentioned on either lists is either a null or a scum read, or they might want to consider themselves that mysterious town read I keep to myself.
LLD is Scum, therefore today's lynch. Those who oppose it are Scum.
They are claimed Wulden. There is a difference. It is quite possible that they are individual Wulden like their claim. However the more they lurk sack the less likely that becomes.
Pretty much from my POV there are two likely scums that need death namely Bacde and LLD.
Let's take a look at Bacde -- Suspected from mid/late D1 and then outs as watcher and dumps I do why? Then d2 seems more interested in defending themselves then hunting scum. Makes this slot likely scum as I would have expected a town replace in to give some kind of reads.
Now about LLD -- They claimed Individual Wulden. At a time when race = scum was pushed vehemently to everyone and right now still seems to be. I want to see this slot become active so I can see if they are telling the truth or full of shit. If they don't post in 24 hours then we likely have two scums identified.
Mastin can you please poke LLD?
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In post 6145, Almost50 wrote:
Because I BLOODY told you the COLOUR of the PM before you even disd yourself, and I did it PRECISELY to keep YOU in the light! You're NOT READING ANYTHING I SAY, my friend.
HOWEVER, the fact that you DID visit me and are still alive confirms you as a Northern Tribes Faction member (there's some good in your goofy play after all). I deliberately left that part out so as to use it on people who would claim to have targeted me.
I'm a PGO, but my ability activates on everyone who is NOT of my own faction. I had hoped someone would claim they visited me and got something different so I could wipe the floor with them, but you took that bit out too.
Seriously, Wake! What do/did you need more to convince you I was not only on your side, but of the very same faction with an identical win con to yours? Why is it so hard top work with you, man?
How many people do you think you killed when they tried to kill you last night?
In post 5831, mastin2 wrote:I do apologize the flavor's horrible. I had a terribly long day, and have been struggling with writer's block. So, all the flavor was rushed, and I still was late and it's still not good because getting good writing was impossible.
Stormblade
, who was
Mark Nikanor
,
Undead Risen Slave 2x-Bulletproof
, has died N2.
Mark Nicanor wrote:Agnigi falls.
You sigh.
You didn't want any of this, but here you are. You knew Alexis was not just a frightened little girl, that she was wise beyond her years, so when she warned of the threat incoming, you of all people knew to take it seriously. After all...she contacted you first. She wouldn't have done that unless she thought it was something of grave...err, dire consequence. Huh, her sense of humor must have worn off on you, you muse for a short while. It could have also been proximity, given you were the closest of the elders to the great lake where she was rescued, but...
...You knew the Galenos girl to be skilled enough, even wounded, to get there by herself if she didn't think you needed to get involved. It's such a sad situation, a tragedy of the ages. The sweet little girl...what horrors she had to live through, only she truly knows. Damn that Dmitri Damanos! Not only did he hurt the child, he stole your secrets. You didn't even know he had done so until she told you as much. You never knew of his crimes. If you had...before the wulden became what they are...maybe you could have...
...No, you shake the thought away. You've seen things get bad before, but Gistou is a whole new level of hell. The last thing you need is another regret on record. It's bad enough things have come this far. The rules broken, the sacred oath you swore shattered...after all. As far as you're concerned, it was almost like yesterday when you first decided to sign up for the fight. You were weak, too weak for combat, or so you thought. And when the offer was given, even though the success rate was (at the time) low, you couldn't help but accept.
As one of the oldest, strongest, toughest warriors of the undead, you fought in constant battles, enduring everything, until after the war...you posed the question. "My purpose has been fulfilled. Now what?" They easily could have done anything to you. They could have disposed of you all, pretended you never existed. They could have locked you away to be hidden if ever needed again, in a state neither fully living nor entirely dead, a fate worse than death for your kind.
They could have done any number of things...but what the great king said was, "You were a soldier. You deserve to be honored as such." The queen saw you as actual
people
. The aristocrats convinced them not to follow through on the full honor, pointing out the many practical reasons not to. Fear of your strength. How little they actually had to offer, with them in short supply of spoils already. The logistics of turning so many ordinary people that came from the lowlives to the higher class. It simply wasn't practical, but you heard the words from the man himself, and the intention was clear enough.
Even as you eventually fell into servitude, you made a clear vow. The undead oaths were your creation. You, and all the others, agreed to follow them universally, out of gratitude for your continued existence, for your eternal life. And since then, you have watched the humans wax and wane countless times, always content, always helping out in any way you could, while laying low. You promised you would.
However, painfully, you recognized that all the time spent as servants meant nothing to humanity, especially with their short memories. They had forgotten what you had done. They had forgotten the sacrifices you had made. They had forgotten how much you loved them. And in their fear, with the growing wuldens on the horizon, their alliance, as it was, would not differentiate between you and them. You would be eliminated, exterminated, out of ignorance.
And as much as you hated the idea...it needed to be done. You need to continue existing. You told yourself this. So with warning, you rose up. You took what was needed. And now, here you are...once again a war machine. But this time, willingly, you will be fighting for a cause: to bring peace not just to yourselves, but to all.
copper223
, who was
Hermes Bion
,
Undead Risen Slave
, has died N2.
Hermes Bion wrote:You were surprised to see it happen, but what the elders said would be willed so. All your (un)life, you've been moving from place to place within the eastern kingdom. It has been your home. Your way of life was drilled in since you were little. Serve the humans. Do their will. Lay low, stay out of the center of attention, but always be there for them no matter what.
These things aren't technically hard-coded into the undead, but the desire to serve was something programmed into your genes, in part because the original undead were weapons of war that were meant to be loyal, obedient slaves. It helped that your forefathers were all volunteers, naturally predisposed to help even without being commanded to. So after the war, after peace was obtained...that didn't simply go away. Almost every undead you've ever heard of has decided to live a happy life, working dutifully under the will of their masters.
Yet with Gistou coming...you understand why the command came. The undead had to defend themselves. Defend life, all life, even their own lives, at all costs. You can't say you're too happy about it. The need for undead to be out in the open, and even harming others, is close to their original, obsolete purpose, something you weren't even born into. But you'll take your role and help out where you can, because if all goes well...who knows? Maybe, peace can come. Time to fight for Agnigi.
After all...you were there when it happened the first time. All those millennia ago, when you held a different name, you saw what humanity did back then. You had peace. You had order. You were kind and gentle. Yes, you may have ruled over them, but there was a harmony that has not existed since then. It was a shame to see it go, but you understood the motives behind humanity.
Which is why you were an avid supporter of coming around to try again. Humanity had long-since forgotten about your past. If you worked with humanity, instead of subjecting humanity, surely, there could be peace? Surely, you could have that symbiotic relationship you so desperately desired? So many in the council resisted. But still you fought for it, and eventually succeeded.
And it was a success.
Oh, was it ever a success.
Yet now it is in shambles once again. The wuldens are strong. Vampires are too weak to stand up against the combined might of the wuldens and humanity. And now, apparently, there's undead in the mixture too. You were around when they first saw action, and it was unpleasant even back then. Now...the only way to beat the monsters is to become monsters.
The decision of the council was unanimous on this: evolve. Become nosferatu. It would be the only way. You agreed there. Yes, no matter how strange the idea was...you had no choice. Yet while you don't like the idea of once again subjugating humans...you also recognize that merely becoming stronger won't be enough.
No...against these demons, against these foes, you need the full force of the world, and humanity would never willingly help. So from your current base in the northern tribes, taken by force, you'll strike out. You must take the risk, that you can suppress humanity long enough to exterminate the wulden. Maybe then, you can revisit peace. Maybe. Humanity has a way of holding a grudge. It's a shame. There's so much lovely about being what you are, and they will never get to experience it if they keep being so painfully stubborn.
Cephrir
, who was
Alexander Lorenz
,
Isolationist Ninja/Conditional Tracker
, has died N2.
Alexander Lorenz wrote:The pride of your people is gone. You meant no harm. Sure, in the ancient times of old, hunters were once vampires preying on humans and subjugating monsters, but in modern times, you had developed a more symbiotic relationship. Humans willingly would donate blood, and a few rare, gifted humans would eventually earn the honor of being turned.
It was beautiful. You would know. You came from outside. Fifty years ago, you were just a mere servant boy. But then you saw something magnificent, and were enamored by the majesty behind vampirism. It was beautiful, it was royal, it was noble, and yet, it was something anyone could achieve if they were in the right place, at the right time, and worked hard enough at it.
So you did. Countless sacrifices, you made, and eventually, your skills caught the attention of the honored Lorenz coven. They adapted you, as their newest son, and there you were, to guide the next generation of vampires, to be there when they turned hunters, to slay monsters, to slay beasts. You've never personally fought a lycan, until recently, but you've certainly fought all other types of beasts, knowing the ins and outs of the land like the back of your hand.
It was seemingly never to end...until the dreaded day when Dmitri Damanos ruined
everything
. The wuldens were bad enough. You watched your family get torn to shreds, ripped apart, when they had once stood so proud. The region of the great lake you hailed from was overrun, and you had no choice but to retreat into the northern tribes.
And there, the offer was presented to turn into a nosferatu. You turned it down, at first. Being a vampire was too precious a gift to throw away. Yet eventually, when Dmitri took his next step and exposed the secret, your secret, all hope was lost. All your friends would turn against you anyway, and with no other options...you needed the extra strength and power the process would give. And now, the council needs the once-human lands, even if humanity won't willingly cooperate.
No choice. The reputation you once cherished is gone. But it is all for a good cause. You are a monster. But you are fighting an even worse monster, and perhaps, one day, there may be peace. It simply cannot be today.
Luna Fox
, who was
Demetria Kleon
,
Undead Risen Slave Faction Cop
, has died N2.
Demetria Kleon wrote:Alexis had taught you well. You remember when the world of Agnigi began to crumble down around you. The news spread like wildfire, as the supernatural aspects of the world slowly became common knowledge. Including your existence, the existence of those who were no longer alive, and yet still roamed among the living.
Undead aren't that different from humanity. They were humans. They can still reproduce like humans do, and it's not like it's easy to accidentally become undead. There's a reason Dmitri Damanos had to go through such great lengths to squeeze the secrets of your kind away. The only thing different is that they won't naturally age, that they're much harder to kill, and that humans can become undead.
...Yet in the world forming, in the Gistou replacing Agnigi, that's plenty enough for prejudice to exist. Alexis had warned you all. The underground undead had been laying low, ever since their birth when used for war. You weren't one of them. Like Alexis, you were the child of two undead greenskins, after the eastern kingdom was in a time of peace. You were born into the aftermath, as second-class servants of the higher-ranked.
It was a harsh life, of course, but it was still
life
. Life that was something you were grateful to live. Your gift is something that only a small fraction of the world can know. It has a few downsides, namely the stricter dietary needs and slight loss of taste from your understanding, but the gifts it provides are endless.
She told you that the undead had to do something. And she was right. Because the world was beginning to form. So, you, along with others sharing your concern, led the uprising. You bore no ill will to your masters. It was not a fight for freedom. It was simply a fight for survival, pure, simple, instinct, longing for continued life.
So you hold hope. If you could exist for centuries in the shadows...there could be a chance you could exist out in the open. There are threats in the world that want you dead. But if at all possible...you would coexist with any whom which coexistence would be possible. They teach an old saying on the Divitias: as ever as the river flows, time will wash away all the scars in the land, leaving a lush farm in its wake. You will fight to prove it right.
<<< Day 3 starts now. The deadline is Wednesday, August 17th, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-17 21:00:00). >>>
READ THE FUCKING UNDEAD WINCON IT SAYS IF AT LEAST 1 PERSON WITH THIS WIN CONDITION IS ALIVE AND TOWN WINS YOU WIN
I HAVE THE WIN CON SO FOR ME TO WIN I HAVE TO BE ALIVE AND HAVE TOWN WIN
You sure you don't want to claim a big man with orange hair and tiny little hands? Because most of what you are doing reminds me of a certain RNC convention and not actually scum hunting.
In post 6149, Wake1 wrote:If bacde watched ASOIAF how did he know Klingon investigated her?
Watchers only learn which player targeted your target: not what the action itself was.
1- Klingoncelt IS Bacde FGS!
2- In THIS game they probably have "X visited your target with an ACTION" and "Y visited your target with a CHECK".
3- We don't even need to dwell more on Bacde. They're confirmed SCUM, so you're trying to prove the FACT. What we do need is to discuss others who have been skating way under the radar.
Also, we need to work together with our night checks. Like.. you, me & rb have opted to check on Nations pre-game, so the 3 of us should probably agree to target 3 different players, and one of those who can also Nation check but has not claimed it can check on one of the three just to confirm the result for themselves (i.e. they should NOT confirm it in the open as long as it coincides with the result they've got).
Also also I will repeat this, To the two Heroes alive: do NOT out yourselves. In fact, you may also want to ignore my advice about targeting certain players tonight, bc there might be some redirection and/or watching aimed to out you or screw with your night actions. The NORTH hero can safely visit me to verify I'm also Human... if they want to.
My current town block consists of (in order of appearance on the players list): Mathblade, Wake, Tim, ASoIaf, eb, Expedience, Toog & "one mysterious player". (But, by all means feel free to check on them if you wish).
My lynch pool for today is Bacde/LLD. Anyone not mentioned on either lists is either a null or a scum read, or they might want to consider themselves that mysterious town read I keep to myself.
In post 6145, Almost50 wrote:
Because I BLOODY told you the COLOUR of the PM before you even disd yourself, and I did it PRECISELY to keep YOU in the light! You're NOT READING ANYTHING I SAY, my friend.
HOWEVER, the fact that you DID visit me and are still alive confirms you as a Northern Tribes Faction member (there's some good in your goofy play after all). I deliberately left that part out so as to use it on people who would claim to have targeted me.
I'm a PGO, but my ability activates on everyone who is NOT of my own faction. I had hoped someone would claim they visited me and got something different so I could wipe the floor with them, but you took that bit out too.
Seriously, Wake! What do/did you need more to convince you I was not only on your side, but of the very same faction with an identical win con to yours? Why is it so hard top work with you, man?
I don't think I actually killed anyone. I should get notified that my PGO shot has been used up (but not on whom) if I did, which is not the case. So, I believe I still got my shotgun loaded.
How many people do you think you killed when they tried to kill you last night?
In post 6145, Almost50 wrote:
Because I BLOODY told you the COLOUR of the PM before you even disd yourself, and I did it PRECISELY to keep YOU in the light! You're NOT READING ANYTHING I SAY, my friend.
HOWEVER, the fact that you DID visit me and are still alive confirms you as a Northern Tribes Faction member (there's some good in your goofy play after all). I deliberately left that part out so as to use it on people who would claim to have targeted me.
I'm a PGO, but my ability activates on everyone who is NOT of my own faction. I had hoped someone would claim they visited me and got something different so I could wipe the floor with them, but you took that bit out too.
Seriously, Wake! What do/did you need more to convince you I was not only on your side, but of the very same faction with an identical win con to yours? Why is it so hard top work with you, man?
How many people do you think you killed when they tried to kill you last night?
I don't think I actually killed anyone. I should get notified that my PGO shot has been used up (but not on whom) if I did, which is not the case. So, I believe I still got my shotgun loaded.
How many people do you think you killed when they tried to kill you last night?
In post 6187, MathBlade wrote:
You sure you don't want to claim a big man with orange hair and tiny little hands? Because most of what you are doing reminds me of a certain RNC convention and not actually scum hunting.
You know, instead of whining you can try to press players to get a reaction out of them.
You know, like I've been doing.
I could ask you to let that sink in, but something tells me I'd be asking too much.
I "could" be wrong, but you were soft defending Bacde before he slipped in favour of an already claimed Wulden, so I suspected you maybe bussing to get town cred and then come up with a false investigation result on Bacde.
Anyway, here's how I suggest it goes: I'm assuming both Heroes alive have the same mechanics of Titus' role, so we lynch Bacde/LLD, one of the Heroes visits LLD/Bacde (the one we don't lynch) and the other visits you.
And so as not to end up with both of them visiting the same target, I suggest East to drop by LL/Bacde and North to drop by you. If you're Human you will not die. If you're a Wulden, we got ya!
This leaves me with 3-4 other suspects to try and figure out, and -hopefully- someone will come up with an investigation result that will help.
Or we could have I dunno not have people take orders from a potential scum fuck? And just ignore your mechanics shit.
In post 6145, Almost50 wrote:
Because I BLOODY told you the COLOUR of the PM before you even disd yourself, and I did it PRECISELY to keep YOU in the light! You're NOT READING ANYTHING I SAY, my friend.
HOWEVER, the fact that you DID visit me and are still alive confirms you as a Northern Tribes Faction member (there's some good in your goofy play after all). I deliberately left that part out so as to use it on people who would claim to have targeted me.
I'm a PGO, but my ability activates on everyone who is NOT of my own faction. I had hoped someone would claim they visited me and got something different so I could wipe the floor with them, but you took that bit out too.
Seriously, Wake! What do/did you need more to convince you I was not only on your side, but of the very same faction with an identical win con to yours? Why is it so hard top work with you, man?
How many people do you think you killed when they tried to kill you last night?
I don't think I actually killed anyone. I should get notified that my PGO shot has been used up (but not on whom) if I did, which is not the case. So, I believe I still got my shotgun loaded.
Hm.
OK.
So you didn't fall for it.
If you had responded by saying you knoew they tried to kill you it would prove you a liar since the PGO Wiki states the PGO also dies in the process of being NK'd.
Still not bought on your innocence.
Stock up on liquid Patience because I'll be Scumhunting you throughout the game.
In post 6006, RachMarie wrote:RAM probably redirected your action with someone elses
Checking the flips:
RAM did NOT redirect anyone's action on N2. This is from their role PM:“When you perform
no night actions
(checks do count as a night action), during the night,
you are immune to nightkills.
”, and they did get killed on N2.
...How do you know whether or not RAM didn't redirect anyone's actions unless you are scum with RAM?
If you read the quote (hint: there are bolded parts) you'd realize I got it in reverse. Actually RAM must've redirected someone for them to end up dead. If they didn't they should've been immune to NKs. That's what their role PM actually says, and you're only one who actually read my post there, but you still didn't get where I got it backwards!
