Gistou (Over!)

[No Retreat]

bacde some of us have played with Nero before

Honestly? Bacde is prob just scum. Like him replacing in and derp voting RAM is prob scum trying to fake derp tell. RB is his top scumread but he's voting me? And his repetition that he can't be scum 'cause he's undead is pretty sad. There's like a complete lack of anything against me. I mean Exp is arguing that I didn't vote LLD and so I must be scum but other than that the push on me has been "oh he's not claiming, he must be scum!"

I agree with your EXP is active lurking, don't really agree with Suzune b/c she's just kinda randomly useless. Haven't looked at the vote thing yet though.

[No Retreat]

placement in the vca I did

To make this easier Im going to use red for maf 1 (wulden) , purple for maf 2 (isolationist), gold for town allies, and green for town.


Twenty-seventh (and Final) Votecount D1:

KuroiXHF

- 15 (DrippingGoofball,

Titus

, A Song of Ice and Fire, No Retreat, Expedience,

RAM

,

Salt Squad,

Cephrir

, Heartless, Toogeloo, davesaz, Tim,

Luna Fox

,

BBMolla

,

dramonic)

Wayward Thinker - 3 (rb, Nosferatu, Klingoncelt)
Heartless - 2 (Almost50,

copper223

)
A Song of Ice and Fire - 1 (

KuroiXHF

)
Klingoncelt - 1 (Wayward Thinker)

Luna Fox

- 1 (

Lady Lambdadelta

)

Titus

- 1 (

Mathblade

)

Salt Squad

- 1 (

Stormblade

)

Not Voting - 3 (RachMarie, Wake88, TheWayItEnds)

With 28 alive, it took 15 to lynch.

Kuroi was individual vamp allied with town and doc

Thirty-fifth Votecount: (Eighth, and Final, Votecount D2)

Salt Squad

- 13 (davesaz, Cephrir, Bacde, Almost50,

Luna Fox

, Expedience,

copper223

, Toogeloo,

Mathblade

, A Song of Ice and Fire, No Retreat,

Stormblade

, DrippingGoofball)
Bacde - 3 (

Salt Squad,

Wayward Thinker, Tim)

Lady Lambdadelta

- 1 (

RAM

)
Almost50 - 1 (

Lady Lambdadelta

)

Cephrir

- 1 (Nosferatu)

Not Voting - 5 (Heartless, TheWayItEnds, RachMarie, rb, Wake88)

With 24 alive, it took 13 to lynch.

Salt Isolationist and cop caught

Forty-first Votecount: (Sixth Votecount D3)

Lady Lambdadelta

- 10 (Toogeloo, RachMarie, DrippingGoofball, Heartless, Wake88, Almost50,

Mathblade

, Expedience, Nosferatu, A Song of Ice and Fire)
Bacde - 2 (No Retreat, Tim)
No Retreat - 1 (Bacde)

Not Voting - 5 (Wayward Thinker, davesaz,

Lady Lambdadelta

, TheWayItEnds, rb)

LLD Wulden faction

^
that?

I...don't really get it. Are you saying they're scum b/c they weren't on either scum lynch?

[Wayward Thinker]

Case and point, rb is confbiasing me, not reevaluating my slot at all. I was inactive because I had no internet access the whole entire time. I never posted elsewhere during that time as well, feel free to check this.

I actually think rb is being genuine in their posts.. its unlikely they were recruited by anyone. That said, based on discussion today, I remembered that all factions can recruit, which means that Rach could in fact have been recruited by Bacde. Undecided where I stand on Bacde atm, but they could be any number of things, scum included. Kling flaked this game and I was Scum reading them pretty hard before I left. I still think there is a better chance than average that the Kling slot is Scum.

I think that Cult have another recruitment method besides targeting humans, but I have no idea how many shots of this they have. They could have just one like every other faction, or they could have more, IDK.

Me, sorry.

[Expedience]

yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

but if i'm scum how does it give scum more information? ',:^)

I'm so confused by this post

Don't cult me

Also please everyone stop voting rb.

[Expedience]

yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

but if i'm scum how does it give scum more information? ',:^)

huh?

is this claiming I'm scum and I already know your role? cause this is weird >.>

~Ice

Why would No Retreat turn down an offer to have a scumread claim in exchange for his claim, UNLESS he wasn't actually scumreading me.

[Expedience]

yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

shitposting is explicitly suboptimal town play and this interpretation means that he is saying that my claim would be bad for town, which is inconsistent with scumreading me.

[Bacde]

bacde some of us have played with Nero before

Honestly? Bacde is prob just scum. Like him replacing in and derp voting RAM is prob scum trying to fake derp tell. RB is his top scumread but he's voting me? And his repetition that he can't be scum 'cause he's undead is pretty sad. There's like a complete lack of anything against me. I mean Exp is arguing that I didn't vote LLD and so I must be scum but other than that the push on me has been "oh he's not claiming, he must be scum!"

I agree with your EXP is active lurking, don't really agree with Suzune b/c she's just kinda randomly useless. Haven't looked at the vote thing yet though.

Lmao gj making up my stances and arguments and ignoring why I'm obv town

If rb was my top scum read I'd probably be voting him

My most recent post addressing rb actually said he's town

Burn scum

[Bacde]

Also, I feel like two mafia teams of 3 is extremely weak in a 28 player game. Hell, combined they are barely 20% of the player base. Then you have to assume cross kills.

I still don't see there being a Serial Killer either, and there's no flavor to suggest it's existence.

My guess is that the game started at:
4-5 Mafia Faction 1
4-5 Mafia Faction 2
---There's nothing wrong with having lopsided Multi Mafia teams, one could be a four man while the other a five man, it just depends on their power level. I could see a three man, but it'd have to be a really powerful team. Two three man teams seems really low though.

1-2 Cult
---One Cult at the start of the game could be really weak for that faction considering there is a lot of Kills at night, and many are protection bypassing. This is assuming the Cult even works like a traditional one. If we are dealing with a varied Cult, who knows how many they started with or how their recruiting works.

15-18 Town of varying factions.
---The obvious here is that there is no true town faction. As long as you have the same generic town wincon, you are on town. The exception to the rule is the Survivor faction, which still makes no sense to me.


IRT the Survivor Faction, the thought just occurred to me that maybe they can win with town or scum so long as at least 1 member is still alive. It doesn't change anything, but that possibility seems way more friendly to their wincon than the worse alternative of only winning with town and having a surviving member.


Anyone happen to know if the Vampires recruited a Human to their ranks yet?

@bacde

: Has the Undead faction attempted to recruit a Human to it's ranks yet? (simple yes/no, no names)

Yes

[Bacde]

Why weren't you sheeping me on Exp earlier? Are we going with the "WT is a bigger scumread!"?

What do you think of Bacde calling you his biggest scumread but voting me?

You are my biggest scum read bro

[Expedience]

omg No Retreat is the cultl leader, kill it

Everyone vote No Retreat to force him to claim, he's way too guarded about that

[Bacde]

^^^i like you

[No Retreat]

I'm not surprised this WT be is led by my top scum read, sure feels like a counter wagon

I assumed that "WT be" was WT bandwagon or something. Which is NOT lead by me, its lead by RB. So what was this?

yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

shitposting is explicitly suboptimal town play and this interpretation means that he is saying that my claim would be bad for town, which is inconsistent with scumreading me.

Who posted before me, who made 6829? DGB you say?!? Yep I sure wasn't replying to her but F for effort to try to make it look like I was trying to claim you were shitposting.

Everyone vote No Retreat to force him to claim, he's way too guarded about that

Scum, like you, have fakeclaims. Town, like me, don't need fakeclaims. There's zero reason why I should clain and generally speaking, town should n't ever claim unless there is a good reason to do so. Both you and Bcade know this so I can only assume that so this "claim now are you are scum." are scum fishing for info.

[No Retreat]

Obviously if Exp doesn't full claim in his next post he's scum. See I can use that same "logic" too.

[Bacde]

Yeah I meant bw but my phone corrected to be

[Bacde]

Still rather get no retreat over exp but I'm not sure

[Expedience]

Obviously if Exp doesn't full claim in his next post he's scum. See I can use that same "logic" too.

Fuck, I have been bested in this battle of wits

I am alexis galenos which is an individual undead flavor cop basically, I chose location cop pregame. Night one I targeted Tim, n2 you, n3 Nosferatu. On n2 I tried to convert Tim but it failed. I forgot the results I can give that if you want but mastin accidentally gave me nation instead of location results on n2.

Also I am conf town-or-cult from flavor and I slipped that my faction color was green on day 1.

Now you full claim in your next post, or you're scum.

[Expedience]

^ is ambiguous what I mean is that my only ability is to location check

Was it not immediately obvious to you that you were town from the color?

[Bacde]

Is anyone else undead? I was under the impression that all the Undeads were in my faction

[Expedience]

I'm "individual undead" which is different from "undead risen slave". Kuroi was "individual vampire" and Salt Squad was vampire despite being in isolationist faction, race =/= alignment.

Also consistent with this is how I saw LLD was lying about her wincon because it didn't match mine, BBmolla's, or Kuroi's. It also says in Mathblade's role PM's flavor that Alexis Galenos is undead.

[Expedience]

Everyone No Retreat has come out pushing is town, including Wake, Bacde, me, rb (who can only be culted town and can't be cult leader most likely)

Therefore, he is scum and you should vote him.

[RachMarie]

uhh ok taking exp out of my scumspect pool

yeah the individual is a thing and they are allied with town. from what I have seen in the flips.

[RachMarie]

wake IS town

did you miss our claim Exp?

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

yeah the individual is a thing and they are allied with town. from what I have seen in the flips.

I just started reading this but stop being so bad

ceph claimed individual nos and lld claimed individual wulden , ss claimed individual vampire

all turned up scum

Thats like the worst reason to townread someone , although I don't want expe lynch today In any manner now as well. (cuase he is definietky not cult as undead race is confirmable over night)

this also makes a redirection from bacde to expe a possibilty that makes your race check on bacde messed up with so wulden race in thread is also a possibilty again. (just a possibilty not saying its the case here)

~Ice

[RachMarie]

yeah they FAKE claimed it

what about the individual vamp DOC we lost on D1?

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

what is a flavor cop?

why your town/cult confirm able flavor wise? thats a weird claim go on

~Ice