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Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:10 pm

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Hey girl :) glad we are in the same faction this time :)
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Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:48 pm

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You can just ask questions and share stuff with me and we can do it while not online at the same time, too :P I check back pretty often.

So what's happened so far?
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Post Post #15 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:42 pm

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We will be fine. I know you can talk your way out of a lynch LOL

Once tomorrow rolls around and I'm at work I can read and post more
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Post Post #17 (isolation #3) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:22 pm

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if that's the case, then one or two of them are scum, the rest of the game just doesn't care.

that's exactly why we beat you in killer instinct mafia. let's not let that happen this time tho.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #4) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:13 am

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get very active, and just try to be mediocrely town-read by people, so you'll stay out of a lynch, but aren't a great night-kill either. don't try necessarily to be RIGHT in your scumreads, just try to be REASONABLE.

we are a VERY STRONG benefit to town if alive, so we need to stay alive if at all possible. i'm gonna have to scum it up a bit and also be kind of obtuse so that i won't get nightkilled, ESPECIALLY if titus is scum (or some of the other people who know my town play from certain games)

so basically we just need to play like survivors. we should not claim until or unless:
while we are both alive:

1.
there is an L-2 (let's not wait for L-1) wagon on one of us, at which point whoever has the wagon on them should claim mason, and state that their buddy will remain hidden until it's necessary to reveal themselves... and you should also ask for Doc protection at that point. and if you do ever flip, the other one will be believed immediately should they need to claim.

or, after one of us dies:

2.
if someone else claims to be the mason buddy of the dead one, they're scum. we counter-claim, and get scum lynched.
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Post Post #21 (isolation #5) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:02 am

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why do you think titus is scum?
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Post Post #23 (isolation #6) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:31 am

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titus is definitely female

titus is also definitely difficult af

i haven't seen a titus scum game yet tho
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Post Post #24 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:33 am

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doesn't necessarily mean anything

pls see Mildly Dangerous Mafia (in the mini normal forum)

she did the same exact thing to town and meant it

but was town
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Post Post #26 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:04 am

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wait what?

links please.
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Post Post #28 (isolation #9) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:20 am

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yes please
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Post Post #30 (isolation #10) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:38 am

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Haha wow turns out Titus claimed scum. So I hammered.

I think we'll be safe tonight. Also I think the numerous obv-town townies will begin to die tonight so I will begin my scum hunting and post it here and even if I don't live for some reason you can just post it for me.

And if you can't copy private communications then I'll find some way around that so you can still share my reads

This game appears to be going quite well btw, I have numerous strong town reads just from the first few pages
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Post Post #31 (isolation #11) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:36 pm

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Mua ha ha ha haaaaa
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Post Post #32 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:53 am

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Lol we are both drawing a lot of heat and this town seems really thirsty for blood.

In ordinary circumstances I wouldn't condone this, but I don't want either of us to die for stupid reasons.

Do you want to just both claim and confirm the other?
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Post Post #33 (isolation #13) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:59 am

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Yeah if you don't respond I'm just gonna claim today
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Post Post #34 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:05 pm

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Claimed under pressure
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Post Post #36 (isolation #15) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:22 am

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Hahahah we are on the same page then yay

How do you feel about nos?
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Post Post #38 (isolation #16) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:08 am

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I feel it

On both counts

I'ma read more today
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Post Post #40 (isolation #17) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:45 am

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ranger is supposedly town because the wagon switched from him to scum

we must not allow that thinking to become prevalent

but we also want to stay alive

so let's do some deep scumhunting and scale back on generating content for now and focus on generating leads

problem with ranger is, there's not really anything to scumhunt.

since we were both in Killer Instinct with Ranger, that might hold a little bit of weight. i have a scummy read on him too

i wanna lynch inside {Ranger, Nosferatu, SirCakez}

i still don't really trust nero cain. i would say he might be scum with a one-shot daykill if he doesn't die pretty soon



don't worry i'll get a handle on this game pretty soon
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Post Post #42 (isolation #18) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:42 pm

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awesome :D

i'll post it if you die :)
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Post Post #44 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:27 pm

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Well. you could just post a link to it here and then I'd copy the actual text into the game thread and THEN it'd be perfectly legal

There's ways around it~
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Post Post #48 (isolation #20) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:37 am

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You go ahead and post it however you want
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Post Post #51 (isolation #21) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:47 am

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Okay. Thanks Skull. Sorry.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #22) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:35 pm

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Quick Clarification:

If Suzune decides to post that in the game thread now, would that be not okay?
But if she posted it in the game thread and then copied it here, it WOULD be okay?

And if so, why wouldn't the other be okay?

And IF IT WOULD, then why wouldn't it be okay if I did it? :P
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Post Post #57 (isolation #23) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:39 pm

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Okay that's fair. But UGH. lol :'(
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Post Post #58 (isolation #24) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:40 pm

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Anyway turns out we didn't need to do that
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Post Post #62 (isolation #25) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:00 pm

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don't worry about it, ignore the guy if he's being a fuckhead lol
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Post Post #64 (isolation #26) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:17 pm

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scummy

we don't really need to use this topic tbh

we should just town it up in teh thread and discuss stuff there

we can use this at night to communicate, but as masons, if we've decided to use the game thread as our mason topic, since we're outed, that'll get us even more town cred.
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Post Post #66 (isolation #27) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:24 pm

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no, just make a shit ton of posts and be hella active and get into the game

if people try to bring you down for it, just be like "motherfucker, no" and play even harder

detractors make you better

and hey maybe you have shit theories, but every townie should be willing to hear all theories.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #28) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 5:12 pm

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Well that was awesome :D
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Post Post #69 (isolation #29) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 5:25 pm

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MUAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
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Post Post #70 (isolation #30) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:48 am

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Subject: Street Fighter Mafia [Night 4]
Dwlee99 wrote:She can be scum because she has a track record of being shit at reading me yet declared I was town. She might be playing into a huge weakness she knows I have as town.
Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: titus
yea this makes sense
Do you think dwlee who is scum with Titus says this? I don't

Medium town read on dwlee for this

Let me finish his Iso too
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Post Post #71 (isolation #31) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:57 am

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If ranger ever flips scum this is 100% town

You should know which game he just referenced. I can't talk about it

Subject: Street Fighter Mafia [Night 4]
Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1977, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 1972, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1970, Fire Assassin wrote:No, Titus today.
Ranger maybe tomorrow.
Fire don't be like this
I am very close to getting very angry. We are doing this. I am not compromising today.
In post 1973, beeboy wrote:
In post 1963, Fire Assassin wrote:Stop this now. This isn't the time to troll, because not everyone gets the reference you are making.
If people think I am a bulletproof tracker cop they deserve to lose there vote to me.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

This is why I don't want to try in games.
No, I'M not compromising. Ranger lurks as scum. I have seen town them. This isn't it.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #32) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:59 am

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Also this

Subject: Street Fighter Mafia [Night 4]
Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2245, Titus wrote:So your problem with me is that I make too little sense but I confuse people often? That makes sense. [/sarcasm]

What are your thoughts on Ranger?
This post itself confused me :I
If you were asking me, though, I think ranger is scum cause their play relates to scum!ranger but they did say they would be lurking. Cause of that I might consider pv over ranger.
Might consider Titus, PV, and ranger? Damn boi
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Post Post #73 (isolation #33) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:02 am

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Also read 2675 and 2813

He feels hella town there
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Post Post #74 (isolation #34) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:03 am

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Okay moving on to the next
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Post Post #75 (isolation #35) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:26 am

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Luna Fox is VERY probably town due to this post ALONE

Subject: Street Fighter Mafia [Night 4]
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In post 3759, Varsoon wrote:I'd be happy with a luna wagon sometimes.
Yeah good idea, lynch one of the few town players actually not wanting to lynch you.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #36) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:26 am

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There is no way one scum buddy says that to another
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Post Post #77 (isolation #37) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:32 am

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This post is also extremely townie

Even tho I barely remember her from that game

Subject: Street Fighter Mafia [Night 4]
Luna Fox wrote:
In post 3775, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3765, Luna Fox wrote:I'm not following Nero coz im starting to believe im townreading scum.
you are townreading the "masons" which are prob our scum. Lynching Anti today is dumb.
I wasn't townreading them before.
But zakk not being able to see how towny i've been could be scum. He didnt have an issue seeing how towny i was in BBMolla's game so why is he here.
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Post Post #78 (isolation #38) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:38 am

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Aaaaand, 3794, 3795, and 3801 have completely sold me on Luna Fox being town

Next personnnnnn
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Post Post #79 (isolation #39) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:44 am

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3790 kinda confirms you as town regardless of almost50s alignment

3809 by Dunn feels pretty town


Tiphaine's reaction to the Varsoon wagon feels a little off
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Post Post #80 (isolation #40) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:48 am

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Living Players:
01 Almost50
04 Ranger
05 Nero Cain --- killed PeregrineV
06 Fire Assassin*
07 Nosferatu*
08 Suzune --- town
09 TiphaineDeath
10 Dwlee99* --- town
13 TheWayItEnds*
14 zakk --- town
16 Antihero --- got Varsoon lynched
17 Luna Fox --- town
19 Dunnstral
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Post Post #81 (isolation #41) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:52 am

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Living Players:
01 Almost50
04 Ranger
06 Fire Assassin*
07 Nosferatu*
09 TiphaineDeath
13 TheWayItEnds*
16 Antihero
19 Dunnstral

Scum is in here, this list doesn't take into account claims, gotta do more ISOs but I'll get it done provided I don't die

This list is just "those zakk has not iso'd/those who have not been directly responsible for scum deaths/those who are not masons"

It will get smaller, no worries

This game is about to get REKT
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Post Post #82 (isolation #42) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:53 pm

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Isoing TiphaineDeath
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Post Post #83 (isolation #43) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:06 am

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This seems toooo far off and dead wrong to be scum

Calls both the Titus and PV wagons bad

Subject: Street Fighter Mafia [Night 4]
TiphaineDeath wrote:
01 Almost50
02 SirCakez

03 beeboy
04 Ranger
05 Nero Cain
06 Fire Assassin*

07 Nosferatu*
08 Suzune

09 TiphaineDeath
10 Dwlee99*
13 TheWayItEnds*

14 zakk
15 PeregrineV
16 Antihero
17 Prophylaxis
18 Heat
19 Dunnstral

20 Varsoon
21 Titus

That is a full list of 21 people, a lynch on any of the bolded would be a fine wagon, but you are all derping around PV and Titus and Ranger FFS, what even????
Town lean on TD for now because they vote/suspect a LOT of people

And also what scum connects himself that strongly to two scum buddies? Doesn't compute
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Post Post #84 (isolation #44) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:10 am

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1969 and 1970

If ranger flips scum, Dwlee and Fire Assassin are like 100% town

And even if Ranger is town, that looks good on FA
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Post Post #85 (isolation #45) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:14 am

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Top lynch choices are Ranger and Nosferatu
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Post Post #86 (isolation #46) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:14 am

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More tomorrow prob
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Post Post #87 (isolation #47) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:46 am

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This doesn't look like something you say to a scum buddy

Subject: Street Fighter Mafia [Night 4]
TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 1862, Titus wrote:
In post 1857, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 1848, Titus wrote:
In post 1846, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 1832, Titus wrote:
In post 936, Titus wrote:UNVOTE: beeboy

Breaking meme for this.

TD should confirm or deny if the results are accurate.
If the are, anti should give details.

We do this right.
That should answer your question TWIE.
and you're still not doing it because?
Intense concentration required to post with cold andi cannot fry Nero/fa/dunn if no one reads my posts...
so the reason you stopped overnight as opposed to yesterday when literally everyone was asking you to is mere coincidence?
If you call my two townreads going to war with each other over night results pure coincidence, then yes. After all, yesterday I kept going in the face of vig threats. If I was stopping to survive, I would have stopped then.
would you have?

or would you have thought that would have looked incredibly survivalistic?
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Post Post #88 (isolation #48) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:50 am

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1871 Nos defends Titus
1947 Nos chitchats with Varsoon to tell him to neglect another game and spam more here
2134 Nos defends Ranger
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Post Post #89 (isolation #49) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:51 am

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2137 defensiveness about being defensive of Ranger

And then distances harder from PV
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Post Post #90 (isolation #50) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:37 pm

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Skull I can copy my posts from here into the thread right?
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Relevant post from 70 to 90
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Post Post #93 (isolation #52) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:07 pm

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posts*

Stuff quoted from the thread to here, and my comments
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Post Post #95 (isolation #53) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:14 pm

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i'm just mostly copying them without actually copying them
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Post Post #96 (isolation #54) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:21 pm

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it was my catchup posts. i didn't do all of them yet but there's a fair amount in the thread now

it's 100% not the posts here, but it's pretty close, the spirit is there
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Post Post #98 (isolation #55) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:55 pm

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ok
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Post Post #99 (isolation #56) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:59 pm

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Suz don't bother reading just Lynch FA
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Post Post #102 (isolation #57) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:38 pm

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Just for the record, I asked my question again by p.m., and skull said that the results would include the name of who was investigated as well as the results of the investigation. Which would clear up the confusion, ostensibly
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Post Post #103 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:11 pm

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hey let's talk about stuff
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Post Post #104 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:12 pm

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In post 81, zakk wrote:Living Players:
01 Almost50
04 Ranger
06 Fire Assassin*
07 Nosferatu*
09 TiphaineDeath
13 TheWayItEnds*
16 Antihero
19 Dunnstral

Scum is in here, this list doesn't take into account claims, gotta do more ISOs but I'll get it done provided I don't die

This list is just "those zakk has not iso'd/those who have not been directly responsible for scum deaths/those who are not masons"

It will get smaller, no worries

This game is about to get REKT
01 Almost50
04 Ranger
07 Nosferatu*
13 TheWayItEnds*
19 Dunnstral

I think 2 of these players are scum
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Post Post #106 (isolation #60) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:35 pm

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I can't in good conscience count out Nosferatu and Dunnstral
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Post Post #108 (isolation #61) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:26 pm

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hmm. i'll agree with you on that. i'm reading the thread more in-depth since keeping up with the recent posts isn't helping it's just making me feel less like I have a handle on the game. i'm gonna read some stuff and come back stronger in thread


it's funny though i'm reading the thread and i have a really strong scum read on you even though i know you're confirmed town to me :P
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Post Post #110 (isolation #62) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:05 am

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I think it's mostly your fluff posting

It looks real real scummy
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Post Post #112 (isolation #63) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:25 pm

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Subject: Street Fighter Mafia [Night 6]
Suzune wrote:
In post 4595, Dunnstral wrote:How many lynches do we have until we lose
Personally, I think it would be better if we did not talk like this.
In post 4621, zakk wrote:
In post 4600, Dwlee99 wrote:we are flippin a mason before lylo tho
see the post i just made

it makes zero sense to flip one of us before lylo
Well techincally speaking if they have to flip one of us it makes no sense to flip us in lylo because then the town would lose. So it is better to flip us before.
In post 4623, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 4619, Dwlee99 wrote:do we wanna mass claim and see what roles make sense in the setup?
You, TWIE, Dunn and Suzune are literally the only ones not claimed. Tho Suzune should be obvious.
Sorry, thought we were popcorning. I am R. Mika the Town Mason. I actually thought my character match up with Zakk was kind of perfect. Although I'm just going by the wikipedia page that I skimmed.
What the fuck is this "flip us before lylo" shit

WE HAVE CONFIRMATION THAT WE ARE TOWN

WE SHOULD NEVER BE IN AGREEANCE WITH ONE OF US NEEDING TO BE LYNCHED

EVER

I swear I wanna freakin strangle you for that post

You sound like fucking scum, trying to pacify town

Ugh
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Post Post #113 (isolation #64) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:25 pm

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I will reread Dwlee
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Post Post #114 (isolation #65) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:27 pm

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I think I've been up on his nuts enough that it's gonna be easier to avoid a Nk if he's scum

We need to begin thinking in pairs now
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Post Post #115 (isolation #66) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:31 pm

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Anti-Ranger
Anti-Luna
Anti-Dwlee
Anti-Dunn
Anti-Nos
Anti-Almost

Ranger-Luna
Ranger-Dwlee
Ranger-Dunn
Ranger-Nos
Ranger-Almost

Luna-Dwlee
Luna-Dunn
Luna-Nos
Luna-Almost

Dwlee-Dunn
Dwlee-Nos
Dwlee-Almost

Dunn-Nos
Dunn-Almost

Nos-Almost



Which of these are IMPOSSIBLE given what we know?

"Eliminate the impossible, and then whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truth"
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Post Post #116 (isolation #67) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:33 pm

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Do you think it's possible Antihero is town and has a false no-QT result on Nosferatu?
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Post Post #117 (isolation #68) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:34 pm

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If not, then Nos could ONLY be scum with Antihero. Which eliminates all the other Nos pairings.
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Post Post #118 (isolation #69) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:36 pm

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Was this post ever explained?

Subject: Street Fighter Mafia [Night 6]
Almost50 wrote:Oh, and ftr: It IS MB (but I don't know if it's 2 "teams" or one team + 3P).
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Post Post #119 (isolation #70) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:00 pm

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You don't say this to a scumbuddy

Subject: Street Fighter Mafia [Night 6]
Titus wrote:@almost, why do you keep asking to be vigged? there may not even be a vig.
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Post Post #120 (isolation #71) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:24 am

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Hey look

I am putting an ASS LOAD of work into trying to win this game

If you would like to help me solve it then please do

If not then please replace out
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Post Post #124 (isolation #72) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:10 pm

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if we lynch one of us, town will be more likely to go to lylo, and more likely to lose it.

if we never flip one of us, town will be more likely to win.

get your head out of your ass. please.
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Post Post #125 (isolation #73) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:11 pm

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anti-nos is something we should look into

in the meantime i'll look into other possible combinations.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #74) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:53 pm

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In post 127, Suzune wrote:
In post 124, zakk wrote:if we lynch one of us, town will be more likely to go to lylo, and more likely to lose it.

if we never flip one of us, town will be more likely to win.

get your head out of your ass. please.
I think the masons claim is too dangerous to take all the way to lylo. Do not be ridiculus. the town is too in a fray. If it has to happen it will. The Mafia will not nightkill us for that reason. It is a play that might have to be made so not counting is as something that needs to be done.
The town needs clarity if it is going to win
that Rangers useless rants about us being scum.
the clarity the town needs is not

lynch mason > "oh hey they were a mason" > other mason gets nk'd > "oh hey they were also a mason, no way" > "wait shit now we've wasted an entire day phase"

the clarity the town needs is

"we are both masons" "you will not lynch either of us ever" "we are town" "stfu and stop saying we're scum, we are clearly not" "this is us being unified in our mason claim, so all haters can suck it"




Suzune, I'll say it one more time.

> the fact that you are trying to pacify "townies", some of which are mafia
> the fact that you are trying to "make everyone happy and provide clarity" instead of hunt out killers
> the fact that you are even SLIGHTLY complicit with a plan to lynch someone you KNOW is a townie

THAT IS WHY I SCUM READ YOU.
AND THAT IS WHY OTHER PEOPLE SCUM READ YOU.

shape up or you'll kill us.

and when i say us, i mean not just both of us.

i mean the entire fucking town.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #75) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:54 pm

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now that that's out of the way, don't ever do that again, and i won't ever talk about it again either. deal? :)
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Post Post #141 (isolation #76) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:56 pm

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In post 135, Suzune wrote:Moving forward schedule:
I know you hate when I saw this just deal for a minute. We need to think about what will best create clarity for the town. We cannot spend another day with the masons on the foreground. If one of us is lynched the other will fall in the night phase that is the reality of it. We either need a good lynch tomorrow. Or we need the town to take out one of us. I know it sounds self-destructive but listen first okay. The town would reap more for information we leave behind instead of listening to the need to rally against us. That becomes a problem and will not help us in catching the mafia because it provides a distraction that hurts the town.

Ideally we are able to drive a successful lynch tomorrow because I have less work to do tomorrow. I have time to hard run something. Therefore, we need to be clear who it is before the phase. You can have me for four more hours and then I have to do something now but I will be back. I would be awesome if we could orchestrate a time to both be online together to discuss this.
i'd rather

yell and scream and kick my legs and then when people finally listen and shoot the monster they can be like "wow you were a real dick about being right" and i'll be like "well so would you, and at least i'm still alive"

than

be like "gee i sure understand what you mean. here let me help you get some clarity" *commits suicide to prove the other guy is scum* > "awwwww shit, they were actually town. too bad they were totally dumb about it. wonder why their mason partner didn't stop them from self-destructing.... ???"
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Post Post #142 (isolation #77) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:58 pm

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yeah we can do it either way

we'll just tell town we've discussed this over and over

we both want to live

we both want to find scum

but it just doesn't make sense to lynch either of us in any way because no matter how much "clarity" it would provide the town, what it'd actually do would be to make the town lose 2 townies, and townies that were CONFIRMED TOWN to each other, no less.

so in essence


you play good cop
i'll play bad cop

and together, we need to sternly and stubbornly resist being lynched. ever.



/in b4 i get night killed. lol
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Post Post #143 (isolation #78) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:58 pm

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p.s. make me some fish. i love fish. <3
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Post Post #145 (isolation #79) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:59 pm

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In post 133, Suzune wrote:Strongest Possibilities: in order of likely hood
Anti-Dunn (Team defend the other)
Anti-Dwlee (Team, I do not understand you, let's not talk)
Dwlee-Almost (Team shall we sheep and call each other friendds)
Luna-Almost (Scum theater at it's finest)
Anti-Nos (The ultimate evasion team)

In reality here I think it is going to come down to Dwlee, Anti, and Dunn
this sounds very well thought out

and i very much appreciate it

if one of us dies, the other needs to make it known that we came up with this overnight.

this is really important

i'll do my own homework but this is great work Suzune <3
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Post Post #146 (isolation #80) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:00 pm

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p-edit: you don't even live in America, do you? :(
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Post Post #150 (isolation #81) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:14 pm

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Yes, me too. I'm about to go home from work (lol) so I can talk to you in an hour or so :)
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Post Post #151 (isolation #82) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:09 am

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Anti-Nos is a low possibility for scum because if they had never talked about each other, what are the chances he'd check nos? Was it his own idea to pt check him? Wasn't he totally off his radar? Why wouldn't he check him at that point? As a scumbuddy it'd be a really convenient clear, and I certainly wish Nos was doing more for the game, but the same applies to you and ranger.

Rangers extreme inactivity and then extreme activity seems like it could be a town tell. What was the big wagon on her for, on D2? Mental note to check this. Suzune, you please check too! :)

Luna seems... idk. Off.

Dunn only really pipes up when there's something appearing to go sideways for him, and he tells people they're wrong a lot, but isn't actually doing anything actively to solve things. I'm sure this can be argued, but the more I read, the more sure I am that the Dunn slot is scum. Additionally, Titus and jackrito had shady interactions. I need to read more.

I think I could honestly find a good excuse to scum read or town read anyone at this point, so I need to step back and take a look at the bigger picture. Please help me find a plot arc for each character, such as, for me:

Replaced in after Brian Hollywood was lynched > got behind > tried to figure out claims while catching up > was on the Titus lynch but just for gut > missed the Varsoon lynch bc it happened so fast > butted heads with too many people and was forced to claim, also since Suzune was scummy and lurking, and us dying would be bad > argued for ranger as scum > was convinced SirCakez was a good lynch > Firebringer shit happened and we lost TD too > was a proponent of the TWIE lynch > lived through N6 hopefully :P
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Post Post #152 (isolation #83) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:04 pm

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alright after isoing him, i'm really ready to lynch dunnstral, he's scum

if one of us dies, the other one should claim that yes we were masons, but we had a one-shot/reflexive shared-watcher role

1. we didn't immediately claim, because we wanted to stay alive longer
2. we auto-watch ourselves if one of us is killed (not other actions), probably for balance reasons. otherwise our watch goes through on our target, if we target someone. if not, no action.
3. we haven't watched anyone yet since we wanted to save it for one of us being killed, because that would basically 100% net scum. which is another reason why it's very important that one of us doesn't get lynched, because the other needed to be alive to turn results when they were killed.

then, if one of us dies:

the other claims all this, and says we were targeted by dunnstral (fake result but he's scum)

if we both live, we can claim dunnstral targeted us anyway, but we don't know why we are alive
HOWEVER, we are only informed about KILL actions, and dunnstral claimed a VT


either way, both of us against dunnstral, and he dies.

it'd work to get him dead because the town will think:
a) if he flips town, we'd be liars and we'll be lynched, so we wouldn't do it as scum because that'd mean we're 100% both scum and we'd be floating the game completely on this one play to kill someone who's not even trying to lynch one of us.
b) it makes no sense for us to lie about this
c) we've already seen other "conditional" roles in this game, such as TiphaineDeath's self-protect or double-protect choice.


what do you think? :)
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Post Post #153 (isolation #84) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:05 pm

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oh shit night 6 is over anyway

good luck!! *fingers crossed*
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Post Post #154 (isolation #85) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:19 pm

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okay luna fox and almost50 died

which means scum is trying to their best to kill the people who

i'm gonna FLOAT a guilty result and see who bites.

so far only dunnstral has responded.
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Post Post #155 (isolation #86) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:20 pm

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trying their best to kill people who are widely seen as town.**
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Post Post #156 (isolation #87) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:30 pm

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oh shit. this gambit might pay off.

we'll see.

idk if dunn is scum. we'll see whats up.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #88) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:47 pm

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You don't think Dunn-anyonenotAnti?

You don't think Ranger-anyone?
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Post Post #161 (isolation #89) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:27 pm

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hm. either way, i need to read more.

i feel like that's the party line for the Congressional Zakk Party of Bad Mafia Players

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Post Post #163 (isolation #90) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:02 am

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like 8o% sure, and same with dunnstral
and i'm about 80% sure it's not dwlee

i just like to make people think i'm surer than i am, so they'll sheep me. :lol:

well done btw with that post. you almost brought a tear to my eye
but my chest did swell up a little bit <3 <3 <3
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Post Post #164 (isolation #91) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:03 am

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fkn YEAH. we gonna WIN baby.

unless it's anti and/or nos, in which case we are totally screwed :P
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Post Post #168 (isolation #92) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:13 pm

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^___^
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Post Post #171 (isolation #93) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:02 am

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Ranger is town you mean?
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Post Post #174 (isolation #94) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:19 pm

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Dunn is part of all scum teams I see

Let's lynch Dunn

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Post Post #176 (isolation #95) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:15 pm

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Yee <3

I really hope we are right

This game has been too hard -___-

I realllly wanna win tho
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Post Post #179 (isolation #96) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 3:37 pm

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Bye Suzune. I'm just not having fun

Mod replace me or mod kill me if you want but I'm done
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Post Post #182 (isolation #97) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 3:43 pm

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I'm sorry Suzune. I never meant to make you cry. <\3
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Post Post #184 (isolation #98) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 3:45 pm

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Go get Dunn lynched. Win the game. You can do it. I'm rooting for you.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #99) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:13 pm

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@Mod: belay that

I'll help you Suzune <3 Let's just ignore Ranger entirely. ENTIRELY. Don't respond to her posts, don't even read them. They're worthless.
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Post Post #188 (isolation #100) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:51 pm

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that's null and you're paranoid
it's just going to happen sometimes


dunn may very well be scum, in fact it's probable
but i'm working with anti and you now

and i'm ignoring ranger other than to vote her
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Post Post #190 (isolation #101) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 5:16 pm

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yeah i like it

vote ranger pls
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Post Post #191 (isolation #102) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:36 am

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Do you think it'd be worth it to lynch nos to find out about anti

Then have anti be the night kill because he can still check people

And after nos death it'd show whether he was town or not

And after antis death it'd be two of Dunn/ranger/Dwlee

And Dwlee would think he's got us in his pocket if he's scum
And ranger and dunnstral would help us lynch the other

We already know Dwlee would help us lynch dunnstral
And we already know he asked lots and lots of questions to make sure he knew it was legit and would be squarely my fault if Dunn was lynched

It might be nostraitor/Dwlee
It might be nostraitor/Ranger
It might be nostraitor/Dunn
It might be Ranger/Dwlee
It might be Dunn/Dwlee but I highly doubt it
It might be antiscum/noswhethertraitorornot but I highly doubt it

There's still all those possibilities

Let's read everyone's posts except ranger again and narrow those down pairs based on pre-day 7 posting


Then let's look at what we learn from lynching each person individually
And see who is the best lynch

And then let's post that all in the game thread

And then let's both vote them

And then let's both stop posting

It would take 4/5 of them to come to a lynch without us

That's why it's been hard for them to mislynch today

That's also why it's been hard for us to lynch correctly today
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Post Post #192 (isolation #103) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:15 am

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not Dunn/Dwlee
495, 517, 527, 529, 530, 535, 537, 538, 554
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Post Post #193 (isolation #104) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:46 am

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Let's check out the evolution of dwlees read on nosferatu
828, 832, 858, 1064, 1130, 1153, 1156, 1173, 1177, ...

Doesn't really mention him again until 3405 and calls him difficult to read
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Post Post #194 (isolation #105) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:24 pm

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Hi so

Let's just do ranger

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Post Post #195 (isolation #106) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:24 pm

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I feel Dwlee could go either way

But I'm pretty sure we get scum with ranger

If it's not ranger we can try again tomorrow
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Post Post #196 (isolation #107) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:27 pm

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I'm not ready to be such a dick to Dwlee
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Post Post #197 (isolation #108) » Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:26 pm

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please unvote while i'm talking with Ranger please.
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Post Post #198 (isolation #109) » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:09 pm

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Im having a thought here

You guys

I just got out of bed to post this cause I couldn't stop thinking about the game


I know this has been said before probably, but

There's a neighborizer/neighborhood AND a masonry

Of COURSE there could be a scum private thread detector

It would work directly with the neighborhood spy (which maybe couldn't read our topic but still)



The reason I can't settle on scum is because I haven't even considered anti

But as town, anti should have been MUCH, MUCH more active! Instead he's made excuses, made posts like 5492, and has been USELESS while he waits for town to lynch one of its own

While he and [scumbuddy], probably Dunn/nos, more likely Nos, just coast. And coast. And coast.

There's no sense of urgency or good faith to help town solve the game because, simply, they're NOT town.


Thoughts?



I want to lynch antihero.
I think Dwlee will too.

Hell I think dunnstral might as well.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #110) » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:11 pm

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This ^ was originally gonna be a post in thread -- hence the "you guys"

But I thought it might be better received (by ranger in particular) if you were to say something like "so zakk and I are talking and we had these thoughts" and say them in thread

I doubt ranger will vote elsewhere but

Dwlee/Dunn is all we need.
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Post Post #200 (isolation #111) » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:15 pm

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Make sure to quote this

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8163680

And Dunn's 5525
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Post Post #201 (isolation #112) » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:17 pm

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Also, if we win this game

To celebrate, I will get an avatar on this account, on my 3rd scum day :D

And it will be dedicated to Skull and me retiring

Because for real, I'm not signing up for any more games, at least for a looooong time.
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Post Post #202 (isolation #113) » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:18 pm

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Ok goodnight. Please go post that stuff and then open a dialogue with Dwlee about antihero.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #114) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:27 am

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SUZUUUUUNE



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Post Post #207 (isolation #115) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:08 pm

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I have had 5 good games in a row

This is the 6th, for the most part

Day 7 was just a fucking BITCH

if we win tho, it'll be worth it
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Post Post #208 (isolation #116) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:10 pm

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I put nos in the thread as antiheros buddy

But really, I think it's dunnstral

Anti>Dunn>Nos>Ranger>Dwlee>Suzune>zakk

Lynch in that order and we win xD
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Post Post #210 (isolation #117) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:45 pm

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Hahahaha

If so then I will buy you a drink when you come to America
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Post Post #211 (isolation #118) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:08 am

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Actually after seeing antihero post

It might be Dunn/Dwlee

Dunn latched pretty hard on to those posts I made about where it couldn't be him and Dwlee
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Post Post #212 (isolation #119) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:11 am

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Or actually, to be honest, I have thought a lot about anti-Dwlee

Dwlee seemed to be the only one that suspected him for a good long while

And anti made a point out of using my defense of Dwlee as a reason to think he was town

But now gun to head he would say lynch Dwlee?
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Post Post #213 (isolation #120) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:34 am

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HUZZAH


lmfao skullduggery you ASSHOLE

I was so sad when I thought he was town hahahahaha
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Post Post #214 (isolation #121) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:35 am

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Last scum is probably Nos then, Suzune

But well, idk for sure so I'm gonna reread more stuff and give you opinions before the end of night time since I'm pretty clearly going to die
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Post Post #216 (isolation #122) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:25 pm

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Hehehe <3

I owe you a drink or a rose, your choice. Lol



Alsoooo I just finished a Nos ISO, I'm 95%+ sure he's the last scum

Make sure he gets lynched tomorrow please :)



If it's not him by some miracle, lynch Dunn or Ranger on D9, but I'm 99% sure it's Nos for like six reasons I don't want to explain right now



Basically

Don't lynch ANYONE but nos tomorrow
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Post Post #217 (isolation #123) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:26 pm

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GG GL HF ^_^
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Post Post #219 (isolation #124) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:55 pm

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She was. Lol
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Post Post #220 (isolation #125) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:55 pm

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Surprised and humbled.
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Post Post #221 (isolation #126) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:56 am

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if it's not Nos, actually, lynch Ranger not Dunn

because if Dunn is scum he deserves to win, and ranger definitely needs to die if it's not nos
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Post Post #222 (isolation #127) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:56 am

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So, Nos > Ranger > Dunn > Dwlee
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Post Post #223 (isolation #128) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:57 am

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I don't think it'll matter though, the last scum is Nosferatu imo
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