Mini 1820 — MAFIA PT

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:12 pm

Bus me.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #8 (isolation #1) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:13 pm

Meant to say that before I entered the thread, sorry. My Scum game is Gawd awful, you're better off without me.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #9 (isolation #2) » Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:10 am

In post 406, DrippingGoofball wrote:I think rb is town

Liquety & Slandaar are scum but rb says LQ is lynchbait so mmmmm

And yeah Aristo is scum too

I like Jarjar, I'm not buying the fake townslip reaction test either LOL

I also like Manuel - I don't like NaomiTan's case on him, it feels like scum making up shit

Right now I'm considering voting either Aristo or Slandaar

I'll iso and decide

What are you doing?!?!

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #10 (isolation #3) » Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:12 am

DGB, we need to talk.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #13 (isolation #4) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:27 pm

Talk to me. What does my case on rb look like to you?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #15 (isolation #5) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:53 pm

Someone quoted it. Its on the last page. Its against rb.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #17 (isolation #6) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:37 pm

In post 16, DrippingGoofball wrote:rb is very townie though

I'm keeping him for the NK

That's fair.

But we need to communicate more. So often I see Scum chat underutilized. I don't want to make that mistake. We have a real advantage with Day chat. Don't want to give that up.

Are you serious about bussing me?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #19 (isolation #7) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:50 pm

In post 18, MariaR wrote:Are you okay with it I was mostly planning on it yes

yeah, I'm fine with being bussed. I have a horrible Scum game - I should be bussed every Scum game I play.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #21 (isolation #8) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:27 pm

In post 20, DrippingGoofball wrote:You have a lot of players town-reading you LQ

Don't get too carried away with the bus'ing

I prolly wont be voting any of my partners Day 1 unless I don't think they are getting lynched. My rule of thumb for bussing is only do it if you have to. Obviously, that looks weird considering what I said earlier about bussing me, but lets just say I do a lot of things that don't make sense and leave it at that

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #26 (isolation #9) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:10 pm

What did I do? Lets talk about it.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #28 (isolation #10) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:15 pm

In post 27, MariaR wrote:"I've never seen a scum tracker before" That's such a random question to ask I feel like if I claim tracker now i'm fucked

I don't think its that bad??? Like I feel it would make you look more like a Town Tracker from my perspective. IDK, maybe it wasn't smart, sorry. I was sorty going off if you flipped you would be taking Rask with you.

Like people have been saying, I'm just not that good at this game, sorry.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #30 (isolation #11) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:20 pm

In post 29, MariaR wrote:
In post 28, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 27, MariaR wrote:"I've never seen a scum tracker before" That's such a random question to ask I feel like if I claim tracker now i'm fucked
I don't think its that bad??? Like I feel it would make you look more like a Town Tracker from my perspective. IDK, maybe it wasn't smart, sorry. I was sorty going off if you flipped you would be taking Rask with you.

Like people have been saying, I'm just not that good at this game, sorry.
It's no issue I just wanted to know why you said it to me it just looks really sus

Wait, what did I say to you? I'm kinda lost. I was just making a play that I was drawing attention to the fact that rask said "Scum Tracker" when it could be any number of roles that could do that to a JOAT.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #32 (isolation #12) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:32 pm

In post 31, MariaR wrote:
In post 30, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 29, MariaR wrote:
In post 28, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 27, MariaR wrote:"I've never seen a scum tracker before" That's such a random question to ask I feel like if I claim tracker now i'm fucked
I don't think its that bad??? Like I feel it would make you look more like a Town Tracker from my perspective. IDK, maybe it wasn't smart, sorry. I was sorty going off if you flipped you would be taking Rask with you.

Like people have been saying, I'm just not that good at this game, sorry.
It's no issue I just wanted to know why you said it to me it just looks really sus
Wait, what did I say to you? I'm kinda lost. I was just making a play that I was drawing attention to the fact that rask said "Scum Tracker" when it could be any number of roles that could do that to a JOAT.
I think the way you brought it up looks weird is a better way oh phasing what I said sorry.

Not sure what you're saying here.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #33 (isolation #13) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:34 pm

You are a new player. What I said prolly doesn't look too suspicious to Town.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #36 (isolation #14) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:12 am

Wait, why are we making that Kill?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #38 (isolation #15) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:38 am

We need to talk about the NK and other stuff, not just send in actions. We have an advantage when we can talk and Town cannot.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #40 (isolation #16) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:54 am

Like who we are going to push.

If it was me making the NK it would be Slandaar.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #42 (isolation #17) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:59 am

In post 41, MariaR wrote:Interesting he's been getting semi pushed what makes you think that?

Who is pushing him?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #44 (isolation #18) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:10 am

In post 43, MariaR wrote:Naomi ross and a few others he's dif not townread by everyone like Naomi is I feel like we can push a slan lynch over a naomi lynch

I don't think we can push a slandaar lynch. Naomi might be read as town by a lot of people, but people are not really listening to her.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #48 (isolation #19) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:44 am

We still have some time to talk about it.

I think its always best to talk about what NK makes sense and discuss who is likely to get lynched and things like that.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #49 (isolation #20) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:09 am

DGB, You should prolly make a case on someone.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #52 (isolation #21) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:35 am

In post 51, MariaR wrote:Oh boy here we go

If you need help with a reads list I can try and work it out with you. Not to say you are incompetent, just that they are prolly going to look pretty close at it.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #54 (isolation #22) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:56 am

Biggest part of a reads list for scum is making it believable. People have to be able to track how you got the reads you did. Making just a random list is almost a scum claim IMO. I suggest you make minor changes that you can back up from the last time you gave a reads list based on the flips if one of your scum reads flipped Town especially. Remember, you will almost certainly be asked about a read on a person or two so having a story to go along with the read is key.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #57 (isolation #23) » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:10 pm

Maria, I think you should hammer DGB.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #58 (isolation #24) » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:10 pm

Not right away though.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #60 (isolation #25) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:42 pm

Talk to me guys, what are we doing?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #62 (isolation #26) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:31 pm

OK guys, I've started planning what it could look like if we win.

DrippingGoofball Day 2 (bus for Town cred)
Raskolnikov Night 2 (NK to WIFOM Town/make her look like she is right when she isn't)
hiplop Day 3/4(?) (We might be able to get a lynch on this. Hiplop is a low impact player and prolly isn't going to do much [hopefully])
Firebringer Day/Night Night 3/4(?) (It depends on what these players read are like at the given time)
Infinity 324 Day/Night 3/4(?)(Rask is right about him and so are a number of others, but I think we might be able to push this lynch if Rask is gone.)
Slandaar Night 3/4(?) (It depends on what these players read are like at the given time)
Manuel87 Night 3/4(?) (It depends on what these players read are like at the given time)
JarJarDrinks Day 5 (I haven't seen JarJar do anything super Townie.. Might be worth pushing this)
LicketyQuickety
MariaR
Vedith

This gives us the win.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #64 (isolation #27) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:44 pm

Playing as Scum is not about looking Town or Not getting lynched. Playing as Scum is about getting all the myslynches you need in order to win. I say this meaning its better to have a plan and adapt it then not having a plan at all. Having a plan sets you in a direction or course that allows you to put yourself at an advantage. Maybe my plan is not the best, but it is a way to track our progress and gives us options so we are not wondering what we are going to do later.

I encourage you to start thinking about who you think are good NK choices and good lynch candidates, even if it is Day 2 only.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #66 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:27 am

Maria, are you playing deep wolf? Meaning bussing all your teammates? I was thinking it would be better if you kept me alive at this, point...

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #68 (isolation #29) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:32 am

Thank you for explaining that. This is why staying on the same page is a good thing.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #70 (isolation #30) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:41 am

In post 69, MariaR wrote:*thumbs up*

There is no way people are going to think we are teamed after that. Great distancing. Good Scum theater.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #73 (isolation #31) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:46 am

In post 72, MariaR wrote:Had to insta hammer DGB so they didn't get the full claim list and make it look like it was a "mistake"

Risky. We have yet to see if there are any other PRs though, which is fine, we have plenty to pick from. Was thinking of a Manuel kill.

Thoughts?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #75 (isolation #32) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:56 am

In post 74, MariaR wrote:
In post 73, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 72, MariaR wrote:Had to insta hammer DGB so they didn't get the full claim list and make it look like it was a "mistake"
Risky. We have yet to see if there are any other PRs though, which is fine, we have plenty to pick from. Was thinking of a Manuel kill.

Thoughts?
He seems to be scumread by a few people I wanted to kill Ved since he claimed watcher but if there's a doctor prob gonna be on him.

my kill pool is 100% jar/manuel/ved though imo

Did Jarjar claim PR? cuz we really have no choice but to kill a PR.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #77 (isolation #33) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:01 pm

In post 76, MariaR wrote:
In post 75, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 74, MariaR wrote:
In post 73, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 72, MariaR wrote:Had to insta hammer DGB so they didn't get the full claim list and make it look like it was a "mistake"
Risky. We have yet to see if there are any other PRs though, which is fine, we have plenty to pick from. Was thinking of a Manuel kill.

Thoughts?
He seems to be scumread by a few people I wanted to kill Ved since he claimed watcher but if there's a doctor prob gonna be on him.

my kill pool is 100% jar/manuel/ved though imo
Did Jarjar claim PR? cuz we really have no choice but to kill a PR.
He did go back 2 pages in the thread to see who claimed pr

He also said he would be Town reading me given DGB flips Scum. JarJar was all for claiming and I think he would've claimed PR if he was one.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #80 (isolation #34) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:32 pm

In post 79, MariaR wrote:I think you should lead the kill but who should I track?

Not sure. There are two trains of thought here:
1. one of your Scum reads so you can give your results later.
2. a PR, the obvious choice. That hard part here is making it believable that you tracked that person if you have to claim.
3. Ideally both. So whoever you had as Scum and is a PR you would track. This would give us some really good info on who that player targeted while keeping a believable true claim.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #82 (isolation #35) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:34 pm

OK. Lets go with that then. Any ideas on what remaining PRs are in play?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #85 (isolation #36) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:52 pm

There will not be a doc and cop because of Follow the cop. I am guessing we have investigative roles that are not a direct check. For example, we have a voyeur and a tracker. That leaves me to believe that we only have to worry about 1 maybe 2 PRs left. So that would mean Hiplop and Slandaar are almost certainly VT. it would be really imbalanced to have like double the amount of PR for Town than Scum. IDK for sure though, but that's my best guess.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #86 (isolation #37) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:19 pm

IDK though, there was the IC. I have not seen a setup like this ever, so I am not positive on anything.

I can say, however, that Vediths claim is almost certainly false; I don't think he is a PR. So who does that leave?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8264809

So I don't think all of them are PRs, but I could be wrong. Day 2 gives some info with flips, but not a lot. Its the ideal way to have a decent amount of Town PRs thinking they won't be able to coordinate everything to get really solid info, but instead getting a decent amount to narrow down who is scum based on all that info gathered N2.

But I noticed that JarJar did in fact claim PR and wasn't surprised to see so many PR claims, same goes for everyone who claimed PR.

So i think it could be very possible that we do in fact have this many TPRs in play. I think Vedith at least is lying and possibly one other person, but IDK for sure.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #88 (isolation #38) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:37 pm

In post 87, MariaR wrote:I think a watcher is very likely in this type of set up through we could just kill a towny pr though and go from there. With an innocent child I think watcher is for sure a thing so I don't doubt his claim

How do you feel about a jar NK and I track infinity?

Hmm... See I really think Manuel is not the type to BS on claiming, so if we kill Jarjar (which I am not against), then I think we should track manuel because Vedith and Infinity have me as Town so prolly won't be targeting me.

The reason who I don't believe Vediths claim is because of JarJars reaction to the claim and that one post where Vedith insinuated I was fishing for PR info. That pic basically tells us he doesn't know how PRs work in this game. He has also switched twice what his claim was between PR, not PR, PR and I can totally see Vedith doing this as Town to WIFOM Scum while being VT. I know it seems weak, but I have played a few games with Vedith - one where he basically did the same exact thing. He loves to WIFOM scum.

But again, going back, I think you should target both a Scum read and a PR. Will have to think about the reasoning for tracking infinity some. Other option is to just pick a PR who you

would

think would get NKed as your Town PR game.

So these are all things to consider.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #89 (isolation #39) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:37 pm

And I think JarJar is more likely to be Watcher than Vedith, honestly.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #92 (isolation #40) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:45 pm

I am just asking here, but why infinity?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #94 (isolation #41) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:00 pm

In post 93, MariaR wrote:He's a read I stated that I was unsure and it's a good excuse to track him because he's a pr and I had him in my sr list early on in the game I don't know who else I'd track without it not making sense

The only other person I could say I tracked is you.

Fair enough then.

So who are you thinking we should NK.

Way I see it:

Manuel: Mostly Town read
Jarjar: Prolly suspects me. Don't know his read on you though.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #96 (isolation #42) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:04 pm

In post 95, MariaR wrote:He semi suspects me

I don't think people townread Manuel though where do you see that?

By the fact that they aren't Scum reading him.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #99 (isolation #43) » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:44 am

In post 98, MariaR wrote:Wait we didn't say who we're killing I just remembered LOL

I am leaning Manuel currently.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #101 (isolation #44) » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:49 am

Yeah.

LicketyQuickety Kills: Manuel
MariaR Tracks: Infinity

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #103 (isolation #45) » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:59 am

Lets hope we don't get targeted. Me more so than you.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #107 (isolation #46) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:44 am

Can I see the results Maria got please?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #108 (isolation #47) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:44 am

@Marquis, Can I see the results Maria got please?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #110 (isolation #48) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:51 am

That means Infinity and Ved need to die. Makes sense that Infinity had Vedith as claiming last, which prolly means that Infinity is an investigative role of some sort.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #112 (isolation #49) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:14 am

If I was really smart I would be able to figure that out without you telling me Infinity visited Vedith. I know people who can do that and it is amazing to watch.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #113 (isolation #50) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:01 pm

WE are in a good position right now, no one is really saying anything, which is in our favor. When stuff happens, no matter what it is, it can help the Town solve things. The longer content doesn't happen, the better it is for us.

I am suspicious that Jarjar has a guilty on me. If that is the case, we are not in good shape. I am hoping he is pulling a gambit, but we'll see.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #116 (isolation #51) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:49 am

Ball is in your court now. You have a good backup story for your claim so you might be able to win this one still. But try to post less "WTF!" stuff and more stuff that has to do with solving the game.