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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:15 am

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In post 924, Drixx wrote:In this game, I felt more like I was just an inconvenience. I was not super likely to get the 3 or 4 saves necessary for doctor role utility to provide an extra mislynch given that I was basically locked into trying to keep Watcher and Gunsmith alive and use my posts to try and play head games with the scum, and hope there was protection for me.

This is exactly what I'm interested in, btw. Doctor is always viewed as a really strong role, but I always struggle with how to manufacture utility from it, apart from the obvious drawing a kill.

I think you're framing the issue wrong. By keeping Shiro and I alive long enough, town has been laser focused on scum because we could do our job. That prevented mislynches thus giving a higher body count. Given 4 kpn, we needed our results and the abilities that We had.

It's not so much the doctor stops the kill but it prevents obvious town from dying, forcing scum into suboptimal plays. That let us have an abnormally high guilty rate.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:16 am

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In post 921, Drixx wrote:Yeah ... had boring nailed super early. Nobody was listening to me then but still feels good.

As a discussion point: was the need to get rid of me simply because I would always be on one of CB/Boem? Did any scum buy my expressed doubts about either of those slots?

If there weren't obvious roles that had to be killed, would a doctor claim otherwise merit an instant death sentence? It seems to me that doctor is maybe overvalued (outside of situations where combinations of roles make a doctor a lynchpin), so I'm wondering why others view it as more valuable than I do.
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:21 am

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still fist pumping for my boem save especially because it came around to my top scumread getting lynched as confscum woo

I feel like my reads were all pretty much on fire even with the brief time I was alive. The only scum I misread thus far was egg and that was just a light townlean
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:23 am

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LOL that awful joat claim/voting the literally confirmed town who outted both scum rbs
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:23 am

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A side-effect of trying to convince scum there was a scism in the town power role block. You get what I was trying to do yeah?
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:32 am

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Boring is amazingly spry on her feet as scum. Until the moment she has to commit, she'll play super neutral, and then once she has to convince people that she isn't scum, the show begins. It's really quite impressive.
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:34 am

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Wasn't she already hammered?
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:40 am

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sure hope so.
but that claim just reeks. copped me? lol. Joat with a vig shot? something nobody else has claimed/flipped? yeah right. only boem visited? kek
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:42 am

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It's a pretty obviously fake claim IMO.
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:42 am

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LIKE. Especially the vig. That's a massive red flag. Literally the only joat to claim vig is the one who was caught visiting the dead doctor? SUUUURRRRE
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:44 am

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In post 929, Drixx wrote:A side-effect of trying to convince scum there was a scism in the town power role block. You get what I was trying to do yeah?
In hindsight, but it made me consider the possibility you were mafia doc. Like zero chance you missed I couldn't gunsmith you. I was not going to push for your lynch anytime soon. You were like maybe 10% scum but nagging doubts.
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:45 am

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In post 930, Drixx wrote:Boring is amazingly spry on her feet as scum. Until the moment she has to commit, she'll play super neutral, and then once she has to convince people that she isn't scum, the show begins. It's really quite impressive.
That's the best way to play scum.
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:00 am

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If boring wanted to counterclaim boem, she might as well have just straight up said he's lying...

Best option would be to claim a doc shot on drixx imo tho
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:31 am

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Borings claim only makes sense if shed been paranoid of boem BEFORE he accused her. Instead she blithely voted creature at day start. It's a clear slip for anyone reading carefully.
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:33 am

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Doc on drixx would've been stupid actually what am I thinking

Yeah boring needs to to invoke the ninja SK (which funnily enough did actually kill drixx)
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:44 am

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Lots of dramatic irony, I love it
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:45 am

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Do people have thoughts on balance given flips and game development so far? IMO it's pretty fair w town structurally favored but other factions having realistic chances. You guys agree or think it needed tweaking? It's my first time reviewing this kind if large setup so is be happy to get feedback.
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:47 am

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The way it's played out so far it seems townsided. If town was a little less favored, maybe they'd actually have to do some scumhunting (who'd have thought?)
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:51 am

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Yeah I think so too but I often think setups are too town sided. I'm very happy we didn't put out 32/5/5 though, I think that would have just been way too easy for town. Sk balances things a bit, but vig swinginess was interesting too.

I will admit I'm rooting for sk, especially since just ascetic and not investigative immune outright.
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:54 am

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I mean...

town is shooting itself in the foot over and over yet lynching scum because tons of guilties and confirmable roles
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:02 am

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If I were to do a role madness I'd make it like 30p, 12 or so PRs 3 of which are vigs.
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:29 pm

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don't let the dream die or I'll come back from the dead just to kill everyone who stopped the boring lynch
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:28 pm

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Lets do a 100 player game after this
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:33 pm

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Pls no; I cant even keep up w/ the dead thread, its so big!
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:03 pm

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In post 947, BlackStar wrote:Lets do a 100 player game after this

im in

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