mafiascum Card Deck (Taking orders again! ~5 decks left!)

[tanstalas]

Appears $20, but got cheaper if you ordered more, I ordered 3, so I guess I paid $50

[mith]

$20 for first, $15 for each additional. (More cost effective for me to combine shipping.)

Also, assuming everything works out with the sample deck, I will likely be able to order some additional decks beyond our planned order of 100. So, if you missed out, keep an eye on this thread.

[mith]

Coordinating with Adam to meet sometime this weekend so he can help me with the file formatting. So having a sample on the way this weekend is looking very likely.

[Elbirn]

GiT hYpE

[mith]

Sample ordered. Should be here in 1-2 weeks. In the meantime, we'll be working on the non-card stuff (rulebook may need a few tweaks, need to get the tuckbox in the format they need, and need to figure out if stickers are doable or not).

[Klazam]

HYPE

[inte]

im at my new address Xd

[mith]

Delivery of sample expected on Monday.

[tanstalas]

Is this the real life?

[shos]

nope, just fantasy

[Majiffy]

So hard.

[crywolf20084]

If you're needing to order stickers, moo's custom stickers are cheap and quick. Use them for work and I like all their printing.

[mith]

Got the sample this weekend, cards look good. Still need to figure out the tuckbox and rulebook.

If you're needing to order stickers, moo's custom stickers are cheap and quick. Use them for work and I like all their printing.

Do they do removable stickers? I remember diginova saying that the ones he tested (with one of our earlier printers) weren't actually as removable as he was hoping. Unless moo's has this option, I will probably be looking at doing something which can be inserted into a card sleeve (which doesn't need to be a sticker).

[mith]

So, good news and bad news:

Bad news - we were planning on a 72 card deck. However, the printer apparently has a limitation with their 72-count tuckbox, and it actually only holds 70 cards.
Good news - the prices are such that I will likely get around this by jumping to a 90-count tuckbox and adding some extra cards to the deck, rather than cutting a couple cards. No new artwork or anything, but it'll have some extras of commonly repeated cards, blanks, and possibly some common modifier configurations (superimposing our sticker art over the cards to create a printed 1-shot Vig or Macho Cop or whatever).
Bad news - they don't offer rulebook printing. The deck will likely include a card with a URL and/or QR code linking to the rules and sample setups, as well as mafiawiki. If I can find a reasonably priced way to print the rulebooks separately though, I'll do that and pair them up before shipping (however, this would reduce the number of extra cards we could do if we want the rulebook to fit in the tuckbox).

[zoraster]

It might make sense to spend a few of the cards on some suggested semi-open and open setups.

[mith]

Yes, that's an option too.

[Cabd]

It might make sense to spend a few of the cards on some suggested semi-open and open setups.

^+1

[Maruchan]

thirded

[mith]

What I'm looking at for the moment is adding 6 setup cards, with front and back having 2-3 setups each with no overlap between player counts. One could then shuffle them up (making sure to flip some while shuffling) and draw until finding a matching player count, if one wanted to select one at random.

Currently we have 30 setups in the rulebook, and we could break down the card faces like this (or similar):

1. Variable 6+ / 5p
2. Variable 7+ / 5p
3. Variable 7+ / 6p
4. Variable 9+ / 6p
5. 7p / 9p / 11p
6. 7p / 9p / 11p
7. 7p / 9p / 12p
8. 7p / 9p / 12p
9. 7p / 9p / 13p
10. 7p / 9p / 13p
11. 8p / 9p
12. 8p / 10p

The question is whether we can fit three setups on a single card face.

Of course, we don't have to include *all* the setups if we do it this way. Or, if we do manage to include a rulebook (I have a lead), we could still have setup cards which would just have a quick reference rather than the full setup.

[mith]

Help determine card list and sample setups!

[vonflare]

good discussion you've got going there.

I personally would include an arsonist, as sort of a less-powerful SK that can be used in smaller face-to-face setups

[mith]

Entirely new roles are not an option at this point - we don't have artwork for them, and even changing the card text will be difficult (we don't have the raw files from diginova, just the ready-to-print version, so matching layout and font and such exactly is basically impossible; we could get close if we absolutely had to).

The goal right now is to get these decks out. The new cards are just a bonus, and I'd like to get them in with minimal effort. Once everyone has their decks, then we can think about maybe doing a second run and offering "expansion" cards.

[Maruchan]

i heard second run

queue my 3-year hype.

this time im ordering like 10 buggers though

[crywolf20084]

Got the sample this weekend, cards look good. Still need to figure out the tuckbox and rulebook.

If you're needing to order stickers, moo's custom stickers are cheap and quick. Use them for work and I like all their printing.

Do they do removable stickers? I remember diginova saying that the ones he tested (with one of our earlier printers) weren't actually as removable as he was hoping. Unless moo's has this option, I will probably be looking at doing something which can be inserted into a card sleeve (which doesn't need to be a sticker).

Hm. Not actually sure if they are removable in the sense that you want. I know they come printed on sheets/business card size as well as smaller squares, and round stickers. So not sure if that's what you want.

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe transparent laminated sheets