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Post #0 (ISO ) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:01 am
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by Persivul » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:01 am
Welcome
PeregrineV
and
shaddowez
. You are masons. You may talk in this thread at any time, including pregame.
Last edited by Persivul on Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post #1 (ISO ) » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:37 am
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by shaddowez » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:37 am
Hey there! The setup sounds interesting, definitely looking forward to it.
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Post #2 (ISO ) » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:49 am
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by Persivul » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:49 am
Good luck! I ran this on another (non-mafia) site, but with a cop and doc instead of masons. Everyone enjoyed it but we thought masons would be better than cop/doc. The doc really wasn't needed with the barricade feature.
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Post #3 (ISO ) » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:51 am
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by shaddowez » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:51 am
That makes sense. Also, in case me just posting here doesn't count,
/confirm
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Post #4 (ISO ) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:54 am
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by shaddowez » Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:54 am
Has PV even picked up his role PM?
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Post #5 (ISO ) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:17 am
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by Persivul » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:17 am
No. I'm going to get a replacement.
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Post #6 (ISO ) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:31 am
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by PeregrineV » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:31 am
Here if not replaced.
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Post #7 (ISO ) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:26 am
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by PeregrineV » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:26 am
OK, is there a way to break this?
Obviously, scum use only the strongman kill every night on their primary target.
the backup goons, if smart (and at least for night1), shoot their secondary and tertiary targets, hoping to get lucky.
Town will be unlucky and kill at least one of their own.
Need to think more on this.
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Post #8 (ISO ) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:44 am
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by shaddowez » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:44 am
I haven't been able to figure out a way to break this, but I'm not the best at breaking setups to begin with.
I for one think that we should both probably make ourselves non-scum targets D1 and barricade. Having us both alive after a night with x-kills would be beneficial to town. It's either that, or we both have to claim today and know that one of us is dying tonight (which I think having conftown dead N1 is a terrible idea).
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Post #9 (ISO ) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:41 am
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by PeregrineV » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:41 am
In post 8 , shaddowez wrote: I haven't been able to figure out a way to break this, but I'm not the best at breaking setups to begin with.
I for one think that we should both probably make ourselves non-scum targets D1 and barricade. Having us both alive after a night with x-kills would be beneficial to town. It's either that, or we both have to claim today and know that one of us is dying tonight (which I think having conftown dead N1 is a terrible idea).
I'm good with barricading if we cant find a breaking plan.
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Post #10 (ISO ) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:41 am
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by PeregrineV » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:41 am
Let's walk through best case/worse case scenario...
lane0168
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shos
Almost50
Vedith
Epod~lady
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KuroiXHF
Realeo
Nosferatu
pisskop
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Post #11 (ISO ) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:42 am
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by PeregrineV » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:42 am
Assume three random scum (
Original Roll String: 3d11
3 11-Sided Dice: (7, 1, 6) = 14
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Realeo
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Post #12 (ISO ) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:43 am
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by PeregrineV » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:43 am
In post 11 , PeregrineV wrote: Assume three random scum (
Original Roll String: 3d11 (STATIC)
3 11-Sided Dice: (8, 1, 3) = 12
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shos
Vedith
Epod~lady
shaddowez
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KuroiXHF
Nosferatu
pisskop
Kraska77
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Post #13 (ISO ) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:48 am
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by PeregrineV » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:48 am
In post 12 , PeregrineV wrote: In post 11 , PeregrineV wrote: Assume three random scum (
Original Roll String: 3d11 (STATIC)
3 11-Sided Dice: (8, 1, 3) = 12
1.
2.PeregrineV
1.shos
2.
-strongman
1.Vedith
2.Epod~lady
1.shaddowez
2.MagnaofIllusion
1.KuroiXHF
2.
1.Nosferatu
2.pisskop
1.Kraska77
At night end, shos is dead, we catch almost 50.
If scum try to coordinate, lane can shoot an extra town, but will die. Realeo can shot a town shooter, and will live.
End of night, 5-2, with almost as a suspect.
But yuck, so many town kills.
I dunno.....
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Post #14 (ISO ) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:56 am
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by PeregrineV » Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:56 am
One issue is with us outing ourselves, taking ourselves out of the equation.
We can then both barricade, and draw the strongman shot. but then we lose the element of lynch pool reduction.
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Post #15 (ISO ) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:27 am
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by PeregrineV » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:27 am
@Persivul- I know I'm trying to break the game instead of just playing it. If you want me to stop, just let me know.
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Post #16 (ISO ) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:25 am
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by Persivul » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:25 am
Feel free to try to break it. I'm curious myself as to whether it's breakable. If it is I'll probably make some adjustments and run it again, as I like the core concept. I'm thinking about taking the barricade option away from the masons next time. That would make breaking more difficult.
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Post #17 (ISO ) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:56 am
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by PeregrineV » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:56 am
It might be, but after 3 simulations its still too easy to fuck with. Outting ourselves makes it better, but not enough given the risk of losing both of us in a single night. Plus we still don't kill the stranded.
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Post #18 (ISO ) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:58 am
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by PeregrineV » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:58 am
@Shadow- thoughts on scum at this point?
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Post #19 (ISO ) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:13 am
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by shaddowez » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:13 am
Almost, realeo, and kraska are probably my top 3 at this point. Can go into more detail on each in a bit.
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Post #20 (ISO ) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:19 am
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by PeregrineV » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:19 am
Crap.
I'm leaning NOsferatu, Vedith and MoI.
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Post #21 (ISO ) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:13 am
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by shaddowez » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:13 am
I intend on barricading tonight. If Nos happens to be town, I expect he'll try to shoot me. Thoughts?
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Post #22 (ISO ) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:55 pm
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by PeregrineV » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:55 pm
I think town might target you (and me) for lurking. Scum will barricade and/or shoot town that are too close to figuring them out.
I think we barricade tonight and maybe we can claim tomorrow to really narrow the lunch pool. And hopefully someone shoots the strong man tonight.
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Post #23 (ISO ) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:57 pm
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by PeregrineV » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:57 pm
PeregrineV :Barricade for night 1
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Post #24 (ISO ) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:35 am
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by shaddowez » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:35 am
Sounds like a plan to me
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