Mini 1828 : Akame Ga Kill Mafia [Lovers Chat] Wave & Kurome
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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Alright, I'm assuming that you are town due to the fact that if you die I die. I also prevent you from doing once with the condition I don't die in the same phase. Now I'm going to need a clarification from the mod on what happens if you get lynched, so we should await that.
The fact that this chat is a lovers chat makes me believe this whole death thing is vise versa as well.
The mod would have a really bastard game should a town be paired with a mafia, for instance mafia could end up loosing a game due to the fact they need to then kill a town player that would kill them if we both remain. There's also the fact it could lead to a draw. Also me making you 1-shot death/bullet-proof makes no sense balance wise if you're scum.
What does make sense is the fact that I'm also Ascetic. I'll probably at some point have to claim that. If people don't believe me you'll end having to support that fact to say I'm town. They'd shoot me most likely as a doctor can't defend me and we'd both die a tragic death. Huzzah.
So let's no get into a scenario like that, I'll go ahead and crumb Ascetic now to prevent an awkward situation later.
I imagine setup wise you are probably a vanilla lover, or you have some kind of non-pivotal non-informative role. Having an informative role or something major like a doctor would be really really swingy with you being able to die with me. I can't even be protected, and am a half-miler of sorts, that wouldn't make sense. You'd most likely have some kind of x-shot ability if any.
There probably also isn't a vig, a vig with lovers is a terrible balance combination with the only fix being a PR-heavy swingy mess.
Anyway, those are my thoughts pre-game. I'll check out the player list to see if I can shortly meta them for you. I'll also figure out a good Ascetic crumb"i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédex
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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No clever references this time as a crumb, nobody here knows my play well enough.
Pay attention to the first letter of all my posts."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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Mmm.
We are going to look so bad if we claim with these roles.
Anyway, thoughts on the game? I currently have none besides a slight town lean on Vedith."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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That's fine, I intend to use this chat as much as possible. Of the two times I've been mason discussing everything and running the town later game has made a great difference, if you're fine with working together here let's do that."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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Ascetic is a very anti-town role, if someone investigates me I need to be able to verify that I'm not something else as they won't get a result on me.
"i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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Okay, so basically make sure I don't get killed and you are a 1-shot death proof."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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If you die, I revive you once.In post 25, RyanK wrote:I'm not one shot death-proof. I can redirect all night actions."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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Vedith is slightly town, Azure is slightly more town. LN is likely scum."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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Nah, you're too paranoid. There are absolutely no links between us. As masons we just need to put each other as town reads but kind of in the middle of your town reads. Never attack one another.
Also this isn't a tunnel, I'm certain they're not going to flip town and as such I will ensure they get lynched. I may be wrong but then they deserve it anyway for playing a terrible town game. Read my ISO, they are lying, contradicting, misrepping, and being as scum as scum can be this early game."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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Read my first post, in no world does the mod make a scum and town lovers due to the fact it can literally be game throwing and forces scum to have to kill one of their own in order to fulfil their win-condition. There's also the fact that if you die I revive you once, be that because of a lynch or whatever. In no way once again would the mod make me so negative utility, I'd be giving scum a 1-shot deathproof which could be even more game-throwing.In post 38, RyanK wrote:If I'm to take what your arguments against Liquid Nitrogen as true, I'll be thinking of you as scum. Also, the moderator called us neighbors. How am I supposed to be assured you're not scum?
I however know that it's unlikely you are scum as my deathproof only works if I'm alive, thus if I get killed you get killed so it explicitly doesn't allow scum (assuming you are scum which I think is a teeny minuscule chance) to kill me off and let you survive.
This is really basic setup-speculation, making a scum and town lover fringes on bastard modding.
Also, this is exactly what the mod wants us to worry about. They are probably having a laugh. Look at your role, you can't hammer and you're a redirector. Redirector is a role with a lot of scum utility and is often given to scum, they're trying to make me think you're scum. Then look at me, I claim to prevent you from dying and am ascetic. Now ascetic also is only useful for scum, the only town use it would have is hiding the fact I can keep you alive from a potential role-cop. However mods on mafia scum have built a meta recently of using a lot of town ascetics, they're a kind of miller except they cant get role-copped.
I believe the mods have thought this setup through, knowing FA who made Dota mafia and has put such detailed explanations to avoid unclarity I don't believe they would add such a near bastard thing. Read my first post for more info."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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What am I doing which I'm criticising him of?In post 39, RyanK wrote:I do think you shouldn't be criticizing Liquid Nitrogen for something you yourself are doing. If he really flips scum, we're definitely in trouble if someone like me spots it.
You're not actually explaining what you're saying, which is what neighbourhoods/masonries are great for.
If he flips scum I'll look amazingly town, great, means people won't lynch me thus killing you as well and losing us two town lives. You should be town-reading me and vice-versa, if I die you die."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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Ah, you're a newer player. Missed that.
If you don't understand anything I'm saying or want elaboration feel free to ask."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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Unlikely, there's probably only one otherwise the game could be over in a few days. It would be way to unbalanced. Theres likely only one. I'm willing to bet on this.In post 43, RyanK wrote:
Never mind about it. Can't remember what I saw.In post 41, wgeurts wrote:
What am I doing which I'm criticising him of?In post 39, RyanK wrote:I do think you shouldn't be criticizing Liquid Nitrogen for something you yourself are doing. If he really flips scum, we're definitely in trouble if someone like me spots it.
You're not actually explaining what you're saying, which is what neighbourhoods/masonries are great for.
If he flips scum I'll look amazingly town, great, means people won't lynch me thus killing you as well and losing us two town lives. You should be town-reading me and vice-versa, if I die you die.
Anyway, I think Liquid Nitrogen is in a love group with Piss."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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I am willing to bet cash if that were allowed that we are the only lovers."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
"let's have 2 rules against wgeurts" -DeathRowKitty
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