In post 1274, SooperDetective wrote:Dont hammer yet, i have yet to submit missions
Which ones should i choose?
@abr i can understand random possibly (although it would be an empty lynch, they didnt post shit, neither here nor in the matrix), but why mathblade?
@jae+math why are you thinking this game is singleball and therefore say 'ok worldzmine is town'? From a balance perspective, 13-4 is scumsided and 14-3 townsided af. Dont write them off as town, seriously.
In post 1274, SooperDetective wrote:
@jae+math why are you thinking this game is singleball and therefore say 'ok worldzmine is town'? From a balance perspective, 13-4 is scumsided and 14-3 townsided af. Dont write them off as town, seriously.
My post was in the event it's single. I haven't ruled out multi, but math said they believe it's single. Which makes their conclusion of Worldz scum faulty due to the reasons laid out. It's possible for Worldz to be from a different faction but not on the same team as karnos.
"Jae defends his townreads like a fanatic" - Charloux
"On the issue of myself they go back and forth between overpowering paranoia and absolute certainty I'm town... it's kind of exhausting." - Nahdia
In post 1205, JaeReed wrote:@Worldz if you want to be townread then do something towards solving the game instead of pushing how you should be on runs due to stats or how you "townslipped" (you didn't). Analyze, give stances, do something is isn't centered around you wanting to be on a freaking run, man.
No. Absolutely not, why should I have to do a bunch of bullshit that no one else had to do/did not do, to be a part of the fucking game. I'm on the edge of telling you all to go fuck yourselves with you shitty reads and bullshit cliques that have formed for no fucking reason.
WorldzMine, I've been in a bunch of game like this. It's not necessarily a clique thing. It's more likely Scum/Town trying to keep the other side out. Your character has nice skill levels, you'll probably get picked eventually.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
We lynched Space Cowboy and McMenno because we thought they were Sum. Why break them out? If you have to do this, why not wait until more players are lynched and you have a bigger pool to choose from?
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
RE: Potential for scum!Math - Can someone explain why? How?
Please?
@Klingon We didn't lynch Space Cowboy, Menno sent him to jail of his own accord, and then I think Menno was policy lynched for his gambits. The plan is to get us halfway towards our condition to get flips from prison already. There are two people with the ability to break out of prison and I'm one of them. Once no one has the potential to break out anymore (as in the people with the abilities are either dead or used them) then we get flips from prison.
Which means I will either need to die or be lynched to escape at some stage. We can hold off but keep in mind it'll be the only thing that will keep us from getting flips once the prison break happens (assuming someone escapes with that).
"Jae defends his townreads like a fanatic" - Charloux
"On the issue of myself they go back and forth between overpowering paranoia and absolute certainty I'm town... it's kind of exhausting." - Nahdia
In post 1259, JaeReed wrote:
OMFG STOP ARGUING WITH ME ABOUT WHEN I SET THE FUCKING TIMER BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I SET IT YOU FUCK.
IT.WAS.SET.FOR.ONE.MINUTE.BEFORE.NIGHT.ENDS.
THE END.
FUCK YOU.
Night end and DEADLINE are two different things. Not going to let you get out this now by trying to move the goalposts.
Night ends when the mod opens up the thread for day. Deadline is when no more night actions are accepted.
Submitting your action 1 minute before deadline means jack, it can still be modified by any other night action. Submitting your action 1 minute before night ends means you submit it after the post in which it was revealed, sorry not going to let you get away with that. Either way it means nothing.
I'm not moving the goalposts, dude. You're again arguing semantics. Night end is when the mod stops receiving actions for night. Night end
is
the deadline for night actions. Night end is also day start with most games.
I will try to explain this as clearly as I can.
The public cop ability could be used at any time and your alignment would be revealed instantly. The moment I used the ability. So if I had used it halfway through the night, then the mod would have posted halfway through the night with the cop result. I set for it to be used one minute before night end. Night end is also the deadline for submitting night actions as far as I know for any game.
This meant that one minute before any night actions would be looked at, we would get the results of the cop investigation on you.
How I did this, was to tell the mod I wanted the action of copping you to take place one minute prior to the night end deadline.
In order for that result to be messed with scum would need a framer that acts instantaneously as well, because the cop investigation took place before any standard night actions. The fact that it's a once per game use only makes it more likely that it couldn't have been messed with in that way (I shouldn't play outguess the mod here but I am).
Or here:
@Mod was the cop investigate result on karnos displayed 1 minute prior to when our night actions were due to be submitted and processed for NAR?
"Jae defends his townreads like a fanatic" - Charloux
"On the issue of myself they go back and forth between overpowering paranoia and absolute certainty I'm town... it's kind of exhausting." - Nahdia
In post 1290, JaeReed wrote:RE: Potential for scum!Math - Can someone explain why? How?
Please?
@Klingon We didn't lynch Space Cowboy, Menno sent him to jail of his own accord, and then I think Menno was policy lynched for his gambits. The plan is to get us halfway towards our condition to get flips from prison already. There are two people with the ability to break out of prison and I'm one of them. Once no one has the potential to break out anymore (as in the people with the abilities are either dead or used them) then we get flips from prison.
Which means I will either need to die or be lynched to escape at some stage. We can hold off but keep in mind it'll be the only thing that will keep us from getting flips once the prison break happens (assuming someone escapes with that).
SMUGGLER'S PARADISE - YOU MAY SMUGGLE DRUGS INTO THE PRISON ONCE PER GAME. A PRISONER MUST BE GIVEN DRUGS. YOU ARE STUCK UNTIL THE END OF THE FOLLOWING NIGHTPHASE. YOU HAVE A 50% CHANCE OF DYING IF A PRISON BREAK OCCURS WHILE YOU ARE SMUGGLING DRUGS.
wonder if koggz ability to sneak in and out of jail counts as the other requirement for flips?
can you confirm or deny?
In post 943, BBmolla: "I'm actually like 90% certain Koggz is the worst player I've ever seen."
I can't, Koggz. You'd probably have to ask the mod in PM, but I'd assume that doesn't count as the 2 person thing is specifically about escaping from prison? I don't think sneaking yourself in there and sneaking back out would count as an escape, since you were never formally in there in the first place, if that makes sense?
@ABR what do you mean I don't know what I'm doing? Do you think scum had an instant framer?
"Jae defends his townreads like a fanatic" - Charloux
"On the issue of myself they go back and forth between overpowering paranoia and absolute certainty I'm town... it's kind of exhausting." - Nahdia
While we could, we will not change her alignment to neutral survivor since we believe the role PM quoting was an accident and not to gain any advantage.
Spoiler: Koggz text role
Shadowrunning Drug Dealer
Text Version
Your bliss is my bliss.
You are aligned with the Town Faction (Shadowrunners).
On the Corner, Giving Lots of Happiness
- You may send Drugs and Booze to Runners, only once per day/night cycle. Players may hold, eat or distribute the drugs delivered as a free action unless otherwise indicated. You may deliberately self target but for the Booze. Drugs detailed below
Day Options
Jazz
- The next action the runner takes is Loud. If they are a party leader during the night phase, the decision they make is Loud as well.
Deepweed
- The runner may take a trip to the Astral PT with posting privileges. Cannot be used by Decker, Rigger, Street Samurai, or Technomancer.
Kamikaze
- The runner is bulletproof to any wounds inflicted by others and a strongman the night of use. The following night, they are roleblocked and macho.
Psyche
- The runner may take a trip to the Matrix PT with posting privileges. Cannot be used by Elementalist, Medic, Physical Adept, Shaman, Summoner.
Smuggler's Paradise
- You may smuggle drugs into the Prison once per game. A prisoner must be given drugs. You are stuck until the end of the following nightphase. You have a 50% chance of dying if a prison break occurs while you are smuggling drugs.
Night Options
Booze (Mandatory Use)
- A player has their target redirected at random.
Nova Coke Party
- Two players share a PT that you can see. The pair cannot vote each other. The voting restriction is lifted in lylo.
You are aligned with
The Shadowrunners
, hoping to overthrow Aztechnology. You win when no threats to the Shadowrunners remain, and thus Aztechnology is overthrown.
Fifteen minutes will be added to the day.
Votes remain in place.
VOTECOUNT 2.04
karnos (5):Yume, Daenerys and Dragons, WorldzMine, Vedith, karnos
Mathblade(2):Albert B. Rampage, Klingoncelt
I think one of ABR/KlingonCelt is scum and the other is derp town.
I find it very suspicious that they are trying to lynch the player that could vig Karnos if we don't lynch Karnos. I also find it suspicious they do so without arguments. Both of them know I am utter shit under pressure. I ask anyone scumreading me to post reasons why. I have done nothing but be forthright and honest.
Suspicion of me is okay. In fact I welcome the scrutiny. But until we figure out what we are doing with Karnos lynching the player with the gun is a bad idea. Even if I didn't have a gun it would still be downright horrible. So bring on your reasons. But if all you have is a desire to vote me without being able to articulate why you might want to check your role PM. It probably says scum or scum puppet on it.
Back to the matter at hand: what are we doing with Karnos?
