STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[McMenno]

@farside why do you think this game is bastard?

this is interesting. I do believe that firebringer is not "dead" yet, so to say

@rr so you believe that titus made a slip, I'm going to assume that this information has been discussed in your alliance, otherwise you wouldn't know about it

[kraskaesque]

The rr wagon is good
But a foxbird wagon is more pressing
She completely disregarded the most controversial wagons (not chara and cakes) at the time they were happening, and had convenient scumreads on lurker spots(xk and snarku). Nevermind that snarky was kinda obvious town at the time she dropped this scumread after his farside episode anyway

[Killthestory]

This game is not bastard.

[McMenno]

i would have made another post to be more clear, but the thread was locked. my own fault. i'm just lucky kraska still allied with me.

this post is all kinds of icky

@shiro why didn't you vig xk?

[mastin2]

@Mastina, Can we slow the roll here on RR? I'm not hard townreading them anymore but I'd like time and the opportunity to mend bridges with Farside and Almost.

That can be done while still voting.

And, speaking on that topic: Yume and I's talk is not day-only, so I got time to write out quite a few words on the subject myself. They'll probably need some amount of paraphrasing, but I fully intend to post them. (I covered only about a third of the playerlist in total.)

Also, to be explicit: I am 100% POSITIVE I am in an alliance

right now

. V confirmed that my power is in effect, thus, my alliance request was in fact successful. It's just I don't know with whom I am allied.

[Creature]

I just feel more comfortable lynching Cooldog/RR/Klingoncelt first.

I don't oppose any of these.

Why? I want to hear more from you. Why did you jump on every wagon but Cakey until it was clear Cakey was getting lynched? Did you have a

lump

in your throat?

Because I was seeing SirCakez as town and his role seemed useful.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I just feel more comfortable lynching Cooldog/RR/Klingoncelt first.

I don't oppose any of these.

Why? I want to hear more from you. Why did you jump on every wagon but Cakey until it was clear Cakey was getting lynched? Did you have a

lump

in your throat?

Because I was seeing SirCakez as town and his role seemed useful.

Then why ever vote him at all?

[mastin2]

I get the feeling you'll see later why I'm still minutely skeptical of you.

Don't be. Painted pictures rarely tell alignments. They do, however, help confirm facts.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

@Mastina, Can we slow the roll here on RR? I'm not hard townreading them anymore but I'd like time and the opportunity to mend bridges with Farside and Almost.

That can be done while still voting.

And, speaking on that topic: Yume and I's talk is not day-only, so I got time to write out quite a few words on the subject myself. They'll probably need some amount of paraphrasing, but I fully intend to post them. (I covered only about a third of the playerlist in total.)

Also, to be explicit: I am 100% POSITIVE I am in an alliance

right now

. V confirmed that my power is in effect, thus, my alliance request was in fact successful. It's just I don't know with whom I am allied.

I'm not contributing to a fast wagon in my state barring a cop guilty.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I get the feeling you'll see later why I'm still minutely skeptical of you.

Don't be. Painted pictures rarely tell alignments. They do, however, help confirm facts.

I agree. A picture is worth a thousand words. I understand that.

I don't get how much power town has. That would be insane.

[Reasonably Rational]

@farside why do you think this game is bastard?

this is interesting. I do believe that firebringer is not "dead" yet, so to say

@rr so you believe that titus made a slip, I'm going to assume that this information has been discussed in your alliance, otherwise you wouldn't know about it

Umm, no, I don't believe Titus made a slip, and no, we didn't discuss it in our alliance.

I just know that I'm smart, and so are other people, and some of them are scum, so we shouldn't say anything more.

That's all.

@mastin: you do realize that nobody died last night, yes? Therefore the idea of using any points regarding who died as part of an argument against my slot is basically useless?

-Cerb

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

@farside why do you think this game is bastard?

this is interesting. I do believe that firebringer is not "dead" yet, so to say

@rr so you believe that titus made a slip, I'm going to assume that this information has been discussed in your alliance, otherwise you wouldn't know about it

Umm, no, I don't believe Titus made a slip, and no, we didn't discuss it in our alliance.

I just know that I'm smart, and so are other people, and some of them are scum, so we shouldn't say anything more.

That's all.

@mastin: you do realize that nobody died last night, yes? Therefore the idea of using any points regarding who died as part of an argument against my slot is basically useless?

-Cerb

Firebringer seems pretty dead.

Did you and Drixx sort out your issues last night?

[Foxbird]

The rr wagon is good
But a foxbird wagon is more pressing
She completely disregarded the most controversial wagons (not chara and cakes) at the time they were happening, and had convenient scumreads on lurker spots(xk and snarku). Nevermind that snarky was kinda obvious town at the time she dropped this scumread after his farside episode anyway

I disregarded almost everything D1, I never even voted. My exams were last week so I was busy and didn't find a way to engage in the game much. I was more active in my neighborhood, as Skybird can confirm once she's around.

I posted in my new alliance a bit now, but I'll hold off on a big post until I can do some proper rereading of Cakez interactions tomorrow.

[grapes]

So you think firebringer was a vig shot then?

No way.

[McMenno]

I get the feeling you'll see later why I'm still minutely skeptical of you.

Don't be. Painted pictures rarely tell alignments. They do, however, help confirm facts.

see it as a compliment

oh, and I do believe that actively denying our alliance would've been benificial for reasons that I will not go into

[mastin2]

Well if it means anything I'm kind of in a daze that Cakez was scum.

We DID tell you so!
I knew what I was talking about, there.
You made some good points about some players, you made some not-so-good points about other players (namely, SirCakez), same goes for Obi-wan Kenobi. You're imperfect, we're imperfect, we form a better unit as a whole when listening to the feedback of the others to get a better picture of the game.

I, for instance, am listening to you on Not Chara being town (which I'm still not quite convinced is the best of ideas, so I'm actually trusting you a bit there), and because I'm listening to you on Not Chara, I'm one scum short of what a scumteam should be. Which means your feedback there is actually important! There are some players I'll flat-out tell you "no" to, that they are town (namely, players like Almost50 and Titus), there are others I think are town but which I could be convinced otherwise, and yet more that I desperately want a stronger read on! So, it's not like I'm running a dictatorship, here. I actually

need

your feedback. Because my Cooldog/Klingoncelt/RR pool I have is as good as I, as an individual, am capable of producing by myself.

[McMenno]

So you think firebringer was a vig shot then?

No way.

what makes you think titus is implying this

[Reasonably Rational]

@farside why do you think this game is bastard?

this is interesting. I do believe that firebringer is not "dead" yet, so to say

@rr so you believe that titus made a slip, I'm going to assume that this information has been discussed in your alliance, otherwise you wouldn't know about it

Umm, no, I don't believe Titus made a slip, and no, we didn't discuss it in our alliance.

I just know that I'm smart, and so are other people, and some of them are scum, so we shouldn't say anything more.

That's all.

@mastin: you do realize that nobody died last night, yes? Therefore the idea of using any points regarding who died as part of an argument against my slot is basically useless?

-Cerb

Firebringer seems pretty dead.

Did you and Drixx sort out your issues last night?

Removed from the game is explicitly not the same as dead. Short-sighted assumption to make.

And nope, not really. We spent our time talking chatting about important rl stuff related to his move and my living situation, and I chose to go out in the evenings rather than do the ISO I said I would do.

-Cerb

[kraskaesque]

Doesn't varsoons post imply that fire died as a result of cakeboy's alliance/event condition not being met or sth? Doesn't seem like a conventional nightkill

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

So you think firebringer was a vig shot then?

No way.

Agreed. Fire seems dead and janitored to me or a scum event that hides the flip.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Doesn't varsoons post imply that fire died as a result of cakeboy's alliance/event condition not being met or sth? Doesn't seem like a conventional nightkill

Explain please. I'm running a bit slow.

[grapes]

what makes you think titus is implying this

That was to rr; they think there wasn't a scumkill last night.

[mastin2]

Ok, can you look at DGB in particular?

When people stop posting up a storm and give me a chance to actually look at my notes from last night, I can give you more, but DGB was one of the players I covered last night. Overall impression: more likely than not, town, but not absolute for a few reasons.

[McMenno]

I like peridot's pizzazz

[Shiro]

Yeah, no ally, I forgive Shiro as she might've missed it.

I was allying with Random Creature.

@Mastin

Why are you townreading Almost... like I legit don't get it. I want to be convinced otherwise if I am wrong but I can't.