Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: SlySly for having a scummy avatar. Better no avatar at all than a scummy one.

I agree, but have you seen McMenno's avatar, it's as muddy as his RVS vote.

VOTE: McMenno

[Blade Dancer]

wagon the alt so people don't try to waste time and guess who it is

How do you know that player's an alt? Am I an alt?

I thought I heard that through the grapevine, but there's also the fact that they don't meet the 3 completed games requirement.

I assumed that because you had Mafia Scum as your title that you've at least played 3 games on this account, making you a main.

Are you scared of teeny tiny alts?

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: slysly

Creature tryharding is NAI (this isn't related to my vote)

Stop voting town. McMenno's RVS on you is bad.

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: Giggles

She didn't vote me, must be scum.

i've never voted you before and i've never not rolled town

your logic is faulty

Scared of alts and RVS votes. Probably scum or noob.

His stance to policy lynch day 1 is also Antitown.

Sad scum had the first two posts of the game.

[Blade Dancer]

zakk is great at faking scumhunting as scum
I wouldn't townread him for that yet

I agree. McMenno's scum with Giga, but no one's biting.

Let's help house sort Zakk.

VOTE: Zakk

[Blade Dancer]

House, I find booze and Xanax help in lynching scum. I don't have Xanax. Care to drink with me?

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: Giggles

She didn't vote me, must be scum.

i've never voted you before and i've never not rolled town

your logic is faulty

Scared of alts and RVS votes. Probably scum or noob.

His stance to policy lynch day 1 is also Antitown.

Sad scum had the first two posts of the game.

This was for you SirCakez.

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: Giggles

She didn't vote me, must be scum.

i've never voted you before and i've never not rolled town

your logic is faulty

Scared of alts and RVS votes. Probably scum or noob.

His stance to policy lynch day 1 is also Antitown.

Sad scum had the first two posts of the game.

This was for you SirCakez.

This is about a scumread though?
I want to know why you're townreading Sly, not scumreading whoever this was aimed at.

Sly is town because Giga is scum.

[Blade Dancer]

Well this game is off running, innit?

Sly trying to interpret "grapevine" as "scum PT" is reaching SUPER HARD and reads like trying to build a case out of nothing. I would vote him, but i'm unsure of the count and i don't want to put him at L-1 in 5 seconds of starting.

That makes Giga a townread by way of being a scum target.

Creature's #96 is non commital and i don't like it.

Don't PL the alt, that's dumb.

Null on everyone else, though blade dancer is my current top watched null read. Might need to wait for flips to sort him.

Pedit:

I forgot about this before because of the delay, but

my role has several different states it can have, and both Miller and Hated are part of those states.

By the same token, my role benefits from being on lynch wagons and hammering, so please be aware of this.

WHAT THE HELL

You can watch me like a TV character. During sober outbursts, I can be boring, but I assure you that engaging with me is faster and less boring.

Why are you needing to watch me so? I am pretty transparently in search of boring scum.

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: slysly

Creature tryharding is NAI (this isn't related to my vote)

Stop voting town. McMenno's RVS on you is bad.

wait was that a serious vote?

Yes.

[Blade Dancer]

Blade/House why assume it's town vs 1 scum team?

I get your giga scumread fyi
P-edit: It was yeah but House changed my mind

Please do not edit quotes. It's annoying to me.

I scumhunt supposing one large scum faction unless proven false.

[Blade Dancer]

A Giga scum flip will result in me screaming for a Pepto lynch the following day.

Far too early to form associative reads. Slow down. Let them be individually scummy.

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: pepto

Like Creature random vote hopping everyone but Zakk.

Why is that Creature?

[Blade Dancer]

Pepto why assume it's town vs 1 scum team?

I hadn't considered multiball, though i tend not to until I see evidence. If it is multiball, then yeah giga could be the other scumteam.

You can watch me like a TV character. During sober outbursts, I can be boring, but I assure you that engaging with me is faster and less boring.

Why are you needing to watch me so? I am pretty transparently in search of boring scum.

Pepto why assume it's town vs 1 scum team?

Because you're pushing the opposite of what i believe, and not providing a real argument to support it. It's not scummy to have a different opinion, of course, but I'd like to see some real reasoning. Flips could null the little suspicion, as could providing reasons, even if their wrong.

I just did provide reasoning, when SirCakez asked. Why is my reasoning not real? Why are you townreading Giga?

[Blade Dancer]

A Giga scum flip will result in me screaming for a Pepto lynch the following day.

Far too early to form associative reads. Slow down. Let them be individually scummy.

Duh.

I was already scumreading Pepto for that shade af catch-up.

On the surface I get it, but I just feel in my bones he is not scummy.

[Blade Dancer]

Because I didn't know the game started until 6 pages in.

My email spam filters PM notifications.

But doesn't it make more sense to enter a game with only 6 pages in by just jumping into the action? It seemed unnecessarily try-hard to just make a catch-up post and give relatively safe opinions, but I don't want to shade your playstyle if you're just like that.

Why the shade and walk back? If you suspect him, own it.

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: pepto

Like Creature random vote hopping everyone but Zakk.

Why is that Creature?

but I voted zakk remember?

Ok, you did. Why did you stop voting Zakk?

[Blade Dancer]

Pepto why assume it's town vs 1 scum team?

I hadn't considered multiball, though i tend not to until I see evidence. If it is multiball, then yeah giga could be the other scumteam.

You can watch me like a TV character. During sober outbursts, I can be boring, but I assure you that engaging with me is faster and less boring.

Why are you needing to watch me so? I am pretty transparently in search of boring scum.

Pepto why assume it's town vs 1 scum team?

Because you're pushing the opposite of what i believe, and not providing a real argument to support it. It's not scummy to have a different opinion, of course, but I'd like to see some real reasoning. Flips could null the little suspicion, as could providing reasons, even if their wrong.

I just did provide reasoning, when SirCakez asked. Why is my reasoning not real? Why are you townreading Giga?

[Blade Dancer]

Sly is town because Giga is scum.

But why is giga scum? Just saying giga is scum doesn't make me believe it, you need reasons. Hence, no

real

argument

95

Why is Giga town?

@House, investigating my gut.

[Blade Dancer]

Blade: i also didn't like that post. what did you think of House's Creature vote?

RVS pursuit to get a read.

[Blade Dancer]

Scared of alts and RVS votes. Probably scum or noob.

His stance to policy lynch day 1 is also Antitown.

where are you getting scared from? I know House and I think he has the logical ability to give an RVS vote that is correct. Why did you think I was (jokingly, because that isn't clear somehow??) calling for a PL on your slot out of fear?

Why does anti-town mean scum?

aren't the days of serious policy lynches over anyway?

also please use they/she for me thanks.

Only took 100 posts to reply.

You've been pushing anti alt rhetoric against myself and sly. Now, it is a joke?
Your reaction against House's vote look scared he was correct.
Anti-town suggests scummy but is not a scumclaim. If I wanted to argue you scumclaimed, I would say that. Yet, your approach seems tailored to convincing me you are dumb town than defending your actions.

Now, what do you think of McMenno?

[Blade Dancer]

Sly is town because Giga is scum.

But why is giga scum? Just saying giga is scum doesn't make me believe it, you need reasons. Hence, no

real

argument

95

Why is Giga town?

@House, investigating my gut.

Why do you keep missing my posts Pepto?

[Blade Dancer]

@giga, First, it likely wasn't true. Even if it was a joke,much jokes tend to be used by scum. Usually, after the types of votes McMenno casts though. Attacking players that are a threat then backing off as a joke is fairly commonly a scum move.

[Blade Dancer]

@giga, First, it likely wasn't true. Even if it was a joke,much jokes tend to be used by scum. Usually, after the types of votes McMenno casts though. Attacking players that are a threat then backing off as a joke is fairly commonly a scum move.

I don't see you as a threat.

Just like you didn't see House RVSing you as a threat either. We're you hoping for the ignore it and it goes away method of defense?

Oh and you can actually read McMenno. Pretty easy actually.

[Blade Dancer]

@Pepto, There was plenty to say. You said I lacked real reasons for my positions. I show you my reasons. You don't respond to the substance or address the depth of my reads. I asked you why Giga was town as well.

@giga, You want to play lawyer. Ok. Why weren't you scared of me?

McMenno has three posts. The ole "this guy is always scum" vote, him asking me if I was serious, and voting a random wagon that was going. McMenno does not want to be seen. You don't need an army of posts to see that.

[Blade Dancer]

That explains why he's not bussing.

Not you.

House...

If I give reasoning to explain that we are not scum together, that means I can't bus him in the first place because only scum bus.

@Blade, I wasn't scared of you because I didn't know who you are.

Mcmenno could just be lazy as town, your scumread of him makes sense and I at least get the logic behind it but I don't come to the same conclusion.

Contradiction!

If you weren't scared of me because you didn't know me, this implies you take meta into your argument. Yet, you deliberately remain null on McMenno without effort to sort him via his meta.

[Blade Dancer]

@giga, First, it likely wasn't true. Even if it was a joke,much jokes tend to be used by scum. Usually, after the types of votes McMenno casts though. Attacking players that are a threat then backing off as a joke is fairly commonly a scum move.

I don't see you as a threat.

Just like you didn't see House RVSing you as a threat either. We're you hoping for the ignore it and it goes away method of defense?

Oh and you can actually read McMenno. Pretty easy actually.

evidently you can't

or is this a reaction test? in which case what are you trying to accomplish here

Well, you're capable of deflection and fearing what I am up to.

Why haven't you tried to sort anyone?

[Blade Dancer]

House...

If I give reasoning to explain that we are not scum together, that means I can't bus him in the first place because only scum bus.

Lawyering is a scum tactic, looking for loopholes to escape suspicion.

Doesn't work for me.

I said sell me scum (as in, results in a red flip) that doesn't leave me thinking YOU are bussing THEM if you want me drop my suspicion of you.

This crap about Sly won't fly.

Pretty much. Did you realize how he objected to my leading question but said he used the tactic himself.

[Blade Dancer]

yeah, I know your type

thinking you're sooooo clever for catching people on one little "slip" and tunneling them to death

Blade, could you just explain what this easy thing you're using to read McMenno is?

gigabyte: i don't want to start making alignment guesses based on a player's meta when we aren't even sure it's really them. that's too many assumptions in one.

His posts.
RVSing based on always scum.
Is my read on him serious?
Sneak vote onto Pepto.
What am I up to?

That's his entire ISO. He's reading but only interested in lurking/defense.

[Blade Dancer]

How long are you 6 or so going to argue within yourselves?

You got thoughts in there?

[Blade Dancer]

sorry, Blade. but i'm really not convinced. the Cakez vote was null, and the rest is McMenno. when you said he was 'easy to read', he only had the three posts, so why include the later ones in your explanation? (i could be wrong, he could have had four.. don't remember.)

I included 1 later post. His deflection.

Do you dispute that McMenno is scumhunting? The Cakez vote is not null.

[Blade Dancer]

McMenno: why didn't you feel the need to comment before voting pepto?

I don't fucking know

anyway, blade dancer, are you going to keep datamining my posts for reasons to scumread me? because I'm trying to get the actual scum here

as you can hopefully understand the average density of players in recent large themes has made be a bit miffed

Stop deflecting and trying to paint me as an unreasonable player on a witch hunt.

This is flailing.

[Blade Dancer]

McMenno: why didn't you feel the need to comment before voting pepto?

I don't fucking know

anyway, blade dancer, are you going to keep datamining my posts for reasons to scumread me? because I'm trying to get the actual scum here

as you can hopefully understand the average density of players in recent large themes has made be a bit miffed

Stop deflecting and trying to paint me as an unreasonable player on a witch hunt.

This is flailing.

No it's not

Truth.

Y'all have one messed up view of flailing. When the request is scumhunt, and the target responds with you're a big meanie that is flail and deflection.

[Blade Dancer]

I don't know how I'll play as I work with PoE, not scumreads.

Play the way you always do, just post those you haven't eliminated as town as either null or scum.

Posting town/strong town reads only serves to help scum, they're the ones that need that information. Not town.

Strongly disagree. When obvious town find each other and are flaunted, it acts as a psychological barrier to scum and a reinforcement mechanism for town, much less the 180 potential.

[Blade Dancer]

Town is perfectly capable of drawing their own conclusions.

If you don't like the wagon, I'm not begging you to join it.

House, help him please he's new.

[Blade Dancer]

Hey accountant, what's my balance?

[Blade Dancer]

Not following onto Gamma.

@Accountant, I never voted Mcmenno.

[Blade Dancer]

zakk is great at faking scumhunting as scum
I wouldn't townread him for that yet

I agree. McMenno's scum with Giga, but no one's biting.

Let's help house sort Zakk.

VOTE: Zakk

Ahem.

[Blade Dancer]

zakk is great at faking scumhunting as scum
I wouldn't townread him for that yet

I agree. McMenno's scum with Giga, but no one's biting.

Let's help house sort Zakk.

VOTE: Zakk

Ahem.

Ah. I forgot you were already on zakk. What is your position on Gamma?

Not a good day 1 lynch.

[Blade Dancer]

Ugh, I am starting to have desires of getting a nuclear bomb.

[Blade Dancer]

Oh and Maxous is town.

[Blade Dancer]

Oh and Maxous is town.

Yo mama is town.

Can I hydra with her?

Nope. Why must you tease so?

[Blade Dancer]

Yeah, this might be multiball. I want to hear what Zakk has to say, but I am feeling uncomfortable.

[Blade Dancer]

Hey House, you're the reason why I am on Zakk.

Can we do Giga instead. McMenno would also be AWESOME!!!

[Blade Dancer]

Anky boy, who is scum?

[Blade Dancer]

Zakky poo, can you do a reads list?

[Blade Dancer]

Zakky poo, can you do a reads list?

I'm ignoring you for that

Why you gotta be mean? You're the most adorable masculine man but for my husband.

I want to see you solving the game so I can justify being insistent on my biggest scumread but if you gotta go me like that well...

[Blade Dancer]

Zakky poo, can you do a reads list?

I'm ignoring you for that

Why you gotta be mean? You're the most adorable masculine man but for my husband.

I want to see you solving the game so I can justify being insistent on my biggest scumread but if you gotta go me like that well...

Wait what.

I need to know where you stand. Your defensiveness is getting in the way. Show me where you are man.

[Blade Dancer]

Ank, townread on McMenno, dude nearly scumclaimed post 1. That needs explanation man. Like totally.

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: Ank

Really? Terrible how? For catching McMenno using a routine bullshit line scum use or McMenno is just your buddy.

You cannot justify McMenno being town and you realized that the moment it came from your lips, so you can to resort to attacking me.

[Blade Dancer]

Hey Zakk, Giga is scum on that list but I would like to do more investigation if that's ok with your magnificence.

[Blade Dancer]

For someone who supposedly wants to see zakk dead you don't seem to hate him very much BD.

Meh, I don't want zakk dead. He's more of my townreads want it so whatever. I would rather lynch McMenno then Giga slot, or Ank. Ank subject to move depending on answer.

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: Ank

Really? Terrible how? For catching McMenno using a routine bullshit line scum use or McMenno is just your buddy.

You cannot justify McMenno being town and you realized that the moment it came from your lips, so you can to resort to attacking me.

Or

I misremembered where the read came from, glanced at the notes I took and saw I had no specific post attributed to the read, and skimmed his ISO to refigure out why I was townreading him in the first place.

And your engagement on him was terrible because you were making up bullshit about his responses to you.

Yup, you can die. I don't like people who accuse me of lying when I am 100% right in order to defend scum so die.

[Blade Dancer]

Why is Ankamius refusing to engage with me?

What, this post?

I'm sorry for being one of the only people to see how scummy you really are, I guess.

So, like

are you gonna give reasons

or do the sircakez "let me go ahead and say X is scummy w/out explaining why", except at least cakez explained after I asked him

If you really care enough about why I'm reading things a certain way, then ask. Don't expect me to spoonfeed you everything I'm thinking at all times.

Your House impression sucks.

[Blade Dancer]

And your only post about my reads before that was to dismiss them, so I don't understand why you felt the need to include the third line.

I wanted to see if you could justify them. You can't and you're still deflecting.

McMenno hasn't scumhunted once.

[Blade Dancer]

It's very obvious that Blade Dancer has never played with me before.

Adorable, meta defense now. Really, you're going there?

Another distraction rather than providing defensible reads. I am not nitpicking. No one can townread McMenno based on his play. Null maybe if you squint. Town, no.

[Blade Dancer]

Hey Zakk, come join me. join the resistance to bullshit movement. It will totally be fun.

[Blade Dancer]

And your only post about my reads before that was to dismiss them, so I don't understand why you felt the need to include the third line.

I wanted to see if you could justify them. You can't and you're still deflecting.

McMenno hasn't scumhunted once.

Scumhunting =/= town
Lack of scumhunting =/= scum

Oh you want to play semantics

McMenno has not town hunted either

He's just been a scared little bitch voting and running

What about his posting is town

[Blade Dancer]

And your only post about my reads before that was to dismiss them, so I don't understand why you felt the need to include the third line.

I wanted to see if you could justify them. You can't and you're still deflecting.

McMenno hasn't scumhunted once.

Scumhunting =/= town
Lack of scumhunting =/= scum

Oh you want to play semantics

McMenno has not town hunted either

He's just been a scared little bitch voting and running

What about his posting is town

Here's a hint: not everybody plays like you do.

Here's a hint: I don't care if you play like me. I expect you to defend what you say or not say it at all.

[Blade Dancer]

Which means he gets zero anything from me. Bye felicia.

Felicia Day is awesome. Regrettably, not her or Fire.

[Blade Dancer]

also, now that i'm reading into you, what the FUCK is up with all your 1. excuses, 2. promises to do more later, and 3. pointing out who else hasn't done enough?

I will have to reread zakk

before considering voting that way.
I have a sneaking suspicion about this game.

Need to see more from Shiro.

Miller claim this early is insufficient for a solid read.

massive hasn't posted yet either.

SnarkySnowman made an angry post that made me laugh, but hasn't posted reads/content yet (IIRC).

I know what I can expect from you, so

I will be patient, but I would like some reads before I consider throwing swords.

zakk and chara are in their own reads category.

He requires further reading.

Don't like how two of my scumreads are on the wagon but w/e.

I will read him in greater detail later

but the past few pages do nothing to help him.

Csnt parse this one out yet

and the longer it goes on the more difficult he will make it. Just take a step back and stop continuously posting.

We're still missing a good number of players.

Will wait for more absent posters to return.

you're not the owner of a bakery

you're the owner of an excuse factory

Welcome to my townreads.

[Blade Dancer]

And your only post about my reads before that was to dismiss them, so I don't understand why you felt the need to include the third line.

I wanted to see if you could justify them. You can't and you're still deflecting.

McMenno hasn't scumhunted once.

Scumhunting =/= town
Lack of scumhunting =/= scum

Oh you want to play semantics

McMenno has not town hunted either

He's just been a scared little bitch voting and running

What about his posting is town

Here's a hint: not everybody plays like you do.

Here's a hint: I don't care if you play like me. I expect you to defend what you say or not say it at all.

Either you're having a lot of trouble understanding what I tell you or you're doing the same level of bullshitting that you did to Menno, because none of your responses in this chain have anything to do with what I've responded to you with.

I understand you cannot explain why McMenno is worthy of a townread. So you're deflecting.

[Blade Dancer]

What's so difficult to understand that the townread is based on how people have interacted with him over his posting itself?

What's so difficult about me asking you to justify you saying "his posting" is town?

You then walked that back immediately.

Second, my accuracy makes it more likely he is scum, not less. Merely, saying I am bad without substance doesn't justify a townread there. It's a classic deflection. Don't focus on my terrible unjustified townread on McMenno because Blade Dancer pushed it.

[Blade Dancer]

Hey, what I said about McMenno is 100% true, should I avoid using appropriate terms to describe his behavior because they are labeled buzzwords?

Or are you going to try and make me search mafia scum for instances where the "always scum" vote happened and it was scum, or the voting to remove threats happened.

For the record, the always scum case has a bigger support for it but I have to go find when that happened to somewhere other than my main. Every time "always scum" votes show by seasoned players in RVS on my main, the VOTER has been scum.

Giga is possibly scum but he actually did scumhunting after his terrible rvs vote.

[Blade Dancer]

Gamma: i

know

.
are you not understanding what i'm asking here? you said you're annoyed at being read like that but you can't point to how we're reading you in that way. in fact you don't even seem to think it's happening like that in this game in particular, from your response in 705.
486 was bad, 488 was worse. your reactions to accusations have been either angry snark or 'why me'.

Blade: is that not just another joke-RVS vote reason? i find it hard to believe. correlation doesn't imply causation, and all that.

And justifying it as a joke is usually the next move.

I have had this discussion before and it's annoying.
Voting to remove threats in RVS is a weaker tell against Giga but it doesn't have the support the always scum tell has.

[Blade Dancer]

hey blade dancer are you fine with me ignoring you for at least today if not the rest of the game

I am only ok with your death at this point.

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: Blade Dancer

Optimal play here is to lynch the alt.

VOTE: sircakez

>this is a large theme
>sircakez is in this large theme
>sircakez is scum

VOTE: Titus

We should lynch her before she goes all VCA on us.

That is an RVS vote by scum on me in another game. Said player then claimed it was a joke.

To be honest I almost never understand vote count analysis. I've only understood it when reading the hidden temple game since it was obvious with how it was scum vs molla and all scum were on molla. I find vote count analysis confusing usually and I guess xtoxm thinks titus would use it to her advantage. xtoxm probably finished another game with titus elsewhere where titus used VCA to her advantage and xtoxm was thus trying to get back at her during rvs

_____________

UNVOTE:

until caught up

BM was scum in a game I just finished. One head of the hydra voted me in RVS because I was a threat and rightfully called out on it. When called out on it, the other head walked it back saying it was ribbing me.

Dave makes a vote based on me allegedly being a threat. He then claims joke.

Don't think so.

Many times scum fear monger me. Not today.

Subject: Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

Vote: mastin

I really think it will work this time.

Deja vu.

Vote: Sonic Boom

.

Because let's face it.
It's Metal Sonic.
And Titus.
METAL SONIC.
And TITUS.

Is there ANY universe where they

aren't

scum here?

Mastina was scum. This is almost verbatim Dave's post.

VOTE: Titus

When

isn't

she scum?

For comparison.

That's my case.

Davesto is treating me like scum have treated me in the past entirely. If it walks like a scum, talks like a scum, and acts like a scum, lynch it.

Giga = Blackest Magic
McMenno = Dave and mastin2

Never thought Titus would see this pattern too.

[Blade Dancer]

like an ascetic except for event-like things I imagine

Event like things? What are you talking about?

[Blade Dancer]

@house,

What do you think of ultimately lynching Giga, Ank, Shiro, McMenno or Nosferatu today?

[Blade Dancer]

@Not Chara,

I don't think I can.

McMenno is arguing that ascetic miller makes sense

because of event like things

. Even if there are no "events", it implies an unhealthy desire to protect Ankimaus.

[Blade Dancer]

Just wondering, how an ascetic miller works?

like an ascetic except for event-like things I imagine

McMenno here is replying explaining Ank's role, which is bad enough in and of itself.
Yet, if he's doing it with mechanics that don't exist, it's worse. It implies that McMenno would rush to Ank's aid without checking or caring about the accuracy of what he said.

[Blade Dancer]

I have more games with PeregrineV than anyone else on the site. Similarly, my accuracy in reading him is higher than my accuracy in reading anybody else on the site.

blade dancer is pushing/tunnelling on a fair amount of slots here.

i'm inclined to sort them out when we get a few flips to contextualise what exactly they're doing

Great, so what you're saying is that you'll wait and be passive rather than engaging to find out whether or not I am correct. That's very annoying.

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: Gamma
I think I like this better then zakk now

Also hi Nahdia

Why?

@Gamma, if scum bus, let them. Be worried if only scum join.

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: Gamma
I think I like this better then zakk now

Also hi Nahdia

Why?

@Gamma, if scum bus, let them. Be worried if only scum join.

I hated the way he swapped his votes around to zakk, like I quoted earlier
And his sheeping zakk's (inaccurate) reasoning onto voting me looks awful

The timing is rather suspect though. Gamma just happens to get a vote as a counter, and voting Creature for his town game doesn't help much.

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: Gamma
I think I like this better then zakk now

Also hi Nahdia

Why?

@Gamma, if scum bus, let them. Be worried if only scum join.

I hated the way he swapped his votes around to zakk, like I quoted earlier
And his sheeping zakk's (inaccurate) reasoning onto voting me looks awful

The timing is rather suspect though. Gamma just happens to get a vote as a counter, and voting Creature for his town game doesn't help much.

Counter to what?
This post has me confuzzled

You. Gamma is a counter to you and zakk.

Frankly, I tend to buy the obliviousness though.

[Blade Dancer]

Those games you dread where every wagon sucks but the one you're on.

[Blade Dancer]

Three pages in. Creature an Not Chara are town. House is mafia.

Yup, you're rusty. Lol.

It helped shore my townread on you. I was worried when no one suspected you.

[Blade Dancer]

That vote is because she gave wishy-washy reads.

She's on page 3 man.

[Blade Dancer]

That vote is because she gave wishy-washy reads.

If you ever decide to be productive, we have a spot warm for you on the Pepto wagon.

I ISOed Pepto, and don't really see anything scummy.

Hey, not willing to vote Nahdia yet, but can we both agree on something and try to be productive. I am pretty damn sure you're town now and so is House. So is Maxous.

[Blade Dancer]

Hey, House, I am surprised you haven't figured it out. I don't think revealing my main would encourage that. If you cannot judge me on my words but insist on baggage, then that's a problem. We don't judge based on the past but the present.

What's in front of you?

[Blade Dancer]

So BD, I'm having problems with getting a photo just right.

Would you be able to help me with that after the game?

Nah, I am more of a wordsmith. Although occasionally, I play on my Xbox one.

[Blade Dancer]

Lucky you, I can't afford one of those newfangled game hoozits.

Yeah, well I am a total wreck at playing CoD. Like bad. Too bad. I'd be hoping to fight. Kinda supposed you would, but it makes sense I guess you wouldn't.

[Blade Dancer]

Lucky you, I can't afford one of those newfangled game hoozits.

Yeah, well I am a total wreck at playing CoD. Like bad. Too bad. I'd be hoping to fight. Kinda supposed you would, but it makes sense I guess you wouldn't.

Is that low-key ad hominem?

Fuck no. I know House used to drive for a living. Lol. Playing a video game while driving is not encouraged.

[Blade Dancer]

Lucky you, I can't afford one of those newfangled game hoozits.

Yeah, well I am a total wreck at playing CoD. Like bad. Too bad. I'd be hoping to fight. Kinda supposed you would, but it makes sense I guess you wouldn't.

Is that low-key ad hominem?

It's not your place to ask unless it's directed at you.

Don't mind. If he thinks I insulted you it might alter his reads.

[Blade Dancer]

Lucky you, I can't afford one of those newfangled game hoozits.

Yeah, well I am a total wreck at playing CoD. Like bad. Too bad. I'd be hoping to fight. Kinda supposed you would, but it makes sense I guess you wouldn't.

So, who are we lynching again?

Anyone from my list before.

[Blade Dancer]

Great let's go Ank then for now.

[Blade Dancer]

Well that's curious.

I think Creature is trying to jump on me for saying I would fake a post restriction which is completely hilarious. It's totally a "justification vote". I don't see town having that reaction. Questioning it maybe, but outright saying I claimed scum? Yeah right, bucko.

Creature, SirCakez, zakk, pepto, House

scumpoll as of rn.

Take House out of that list and we're all g

That list is terrible.

Also, why no interactions Nahdia? I disagree with every one of your scumreads.

[Blade Dancer]

There's a reason I haven't voted yet.
All actions have consequences.
I will say no more for now.

I wonder if my reason is the same as Slysly's.

If you were voting, who would you vote for?

[Blade Dancer]

Well boy howdy Mr Emerald Sir. As much as I do what to be "g" with you, I simply cannot sell out my values, or in this case scumreads, for the sake of attaining your cooperation and/or internet friendship

Well that's curious.

I think Creature is trying to jump on me for saying I would fake a post restriction which is completely hilarious. It's totally a "justification vote". I don't see town having that reaction. Questioning it maybe, but outright saying I claimed scum? Yeah right, bucko.

Creature, SirCakez, zakk, pepto, House

scumpoll as of rn.

Take House out of that list and we're all g

That list is terrible.

Also, why no interactions Nahdia? I disagree with every one of your scumreads.

Why no interactions with what, friend Blade Dancer?

Me. You and I have diametrically opposing reads, yet you townread me (and I scumread you). Why no reach out?

[Blade Dancer]

Admittedly my readthrough of the game has not exactly been thorough. Perhaps you could put forward some of your own reads, and we could compare notes, and I might be more in sync, as the kids say these days, with you.

Not been through? How about non-existent?

I convinced House, one of your alleged scumreads to move his vote to someone I supported in a set pool, yet, you don't even remember it?

[Blade Dancer]

I don't townread you?

You just called out 5 scum, so that suggests you do.

Or are you claiming a null read on me and missed all my activity?

[Blade Dancer]

So basically, you're arguing that none of your reads are serious now? Let me know if you catch up in the dead thread.

Dayvig:Nahdia

[Blade Dancer]

Nahdia is confirmed town

s ame.

But what makes you say that in particular? Help me help you by cementing my townread on you. We can get a kickass townbloc going.

That's not what I said at all? They're serious, I just haven't read the entire game. Why am I not allowed to form reads based on snippets of the game?

Because you just walk back everything and have no context. No one even knows what sections you read.

You want to give explanations we can follow before Skull comes on.

[Blade Dancer]

I swear if this is fake I'm going to make a petition to ban faking dayvigs.

You couldn't obvtown any harder if you tried.

Guess what, Pepto is likely town too.

[Blade Dancer]

Guess what, Pepto is likely town too.

Is there something he did which makes you think he's lynchbait or is it more the people pushing him that make you want to think the opposite?

Nah, Pepto's interactions have been obvious town and his wagon is nothing more than shade and deflection from scum. The way he handled me in the open was pretty townie.

[Blade Dancer]

gamma why did you soft masons with house

Why would you point this out?

[Blade Dancer]

@house,

What do you think of ultimately lynching Giga, Ank, Shiro, McMenno or Nosferatu today?

found it!!!!!!!!

Giga: That's me isn't it?
Ank: Honestly, 100% escaped my notice in this game thus far. Looking over his ISO, I disagree with his reads but nothing in particular pings me there.
Shiro: There's nothing to read here. I mean, I guess they could be lynched. Seems like a cop out.
McMenno: Actually I can see it. Like I said, one of their earlier posts did ping me on a tonal level. If pepto is town as you say, I'd say McMenno is a shoe-in for the scum pushing on them.
Nosferatu: See Shiro.

House I scumread for a lot of whiteknighting of both Gamma's slot and my slot.

Your slot was previously taken by a friend of mine that I didn't want steamrolled over typical d1 shenanigans. You, I don't care if you're lynched because you're a big girl that can fend for herself.

Gamma is lynchbait so I'm cautious but I'm starting to get paranoid on him.

Ok, duly noted. I just kinda noticed it felt like you reacted when Gamma made a big show of voting me shortly after my entrance and it was like "huh why did he do that?" and that got me worried on you in particular.

So, how many posts do Shiro and Nos need before calling them lurking scum?

[Blade Dancer]

okay I'm going to break a promise here but a blind monkey could've catched that crumb

Take a break? You have done nothing.

[Blade Dancer]

@Magna, I think you're right on Nahdia but wrong on the partner.

I think Nahdia wants the Pepto wagon alive but doesn't want to be on it.

McMenno meanwhile is her buddy she doesn't want to bus.

[Blade Dancer]

Oh a wagon on McMenno

VOTE: McMenno

Will catch up in a bit.

[Blade Dancer]

Have cold. Missed questions. Saw my name.

What do people need?

[Blade Dancer]

I'm just going to sheep whatever wagon has the most amount of my townreads on it for the rest of the day. I'm done trying to sift through this shit.

Anyone who considers objecting needs to look at page 56 again and see just how completely useless the entire page was.

Page 56 hasn't finished yet...

[Blade Dancer]

But, you know, that's why I asked you why you think certain slots shouldn't be lynched Day 1. Since you brought it up and all.

It interests me that you're in such a hurry to lynch someone that can be an asset to the game over, say, McMenno (I can understand the reluctance on lynching Leon over 8 posts and being VLA).

If you're wrong on McMenno, it's less damaging to town than if you're wrong on Cakez, but you're all gung-ho on lynching Cakez with no actual reasons to point to.

Fake posts my ass, that reads like such a cop out excuse. There is nothing wrong with his posts that you can quantify as scummy, so you used a vague, subjective accusation and expect that to be enough to kill him.

I'm not buying it, and I'm not too happy with your thought processes here.

I agree.

[Blade Dancer]

daycop Gamma Emerald

Result: Sunny town.

[Blade Dancer]

I have an idea of what Andrius's role is, but I have no idea what the flavor behind it is.

All choices have consequences.

Why am I not in your read wall?

[Blade Dancer]

@Magna, I think you're right on Nahdia but wrong on the partner.

I think Nahdia wants the Pepto wagon alive but doesn't want to be on it.

McMenno meanwhile is her buddy she doesn't want to bus.

What's your reasoning on McMenno again? All I recall was your flailing point which wasn't selling me at all.

Flailing, RVS tell, total lack of questions or scumhunting.

[Blade Dancer]

I completely overlooked you. Sorry. --;

I am feeling moody. Thoughts on me?

[Blade Dancer]

This being a bastard game I wanna try something.

VOTE: Skullduggery

Deflection.

[Blade Dancer]

This being a bastard game I wanna try something.

VOTE: Skullduggery

VOTE: Skullduggery

VOTE: Skullduggery
Thank me if something bad happens.

VOTE: skullduggery

Skullduggery can get 4 votes, but we cannot get 4 votes on scum all day. #frustration

[Blade Dancer]

i'm not floating anything

i wasn't going over the people in my wagon saying "he's scum, he's scum, he's scum"

i was going over the votes on my waon saying "this is a bullshit vote, this is a bullshit vote, this is a bullshit vote"

so what point am i avoiding?

you're totally misrepping me.

Um look a complete and utter dodge. For those who doubt zakk isn’t scum just making up things on the fly let’s revisit the posts I was discussing.

I also want to address this post.

zakk is great at faking scumhunting as scum
I wouldn't townread him for that yet

I have played at least five or six games with SirCakez in the last year or so.
In every game where he is scum, he drums up the fact that I'm really good at scum, and that people shouldn't trust me.

Compare

:

Kuribo in Wonderland:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... hilit=zakk

Street Fighter Mafia:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... hilit=zakk

Mass Effect Mafia:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... hilit=zakk

Magical Girls Mafia:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... hilit=zakk

Look at the way he constantly doubtcasts me, but ESPECIALLY as scum.

Note that I am town in all of these scenarios.
The only time I've been scum around SirCakez is when we were scum

together

, here:

Killer Instinct Mafia:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66274

So throw that in the pot along with all the votes which have been influenced by SirCakez.

That's all.

So 565 is where zakk goes to great length to show a multiple meta examples of SirCakez as scum doubtcasting him. Read that post in full and then look at the next post in the chain that I was pointing out.

also for those of you voting sircakez saying that it was my reasoning that helped you get to that point, you're probably full of shit

because all my posts 565 and 569 really did was show that cakez has a habit of suspecting me, and that his suspicion should be taken with a grain of salt

i didn't create a case for him to be scum, i didn't even say i had a scum read on him. i just said what he has done before, and as which alignment

i don't have a scum read on him, and actually don't think i've considered him scummy more than a couple times this game

so park that wagon, turn it around, and start barking up another tree, comprende? thxxxxx

So in 932 he specifically says that 565 was not a “case” and he doesn’t scum read SirCakez, that the people who used 565 as reasoning to vote SirCakez are “probably full of shit” and SirCakez isn’t scummy.

I point this out and zakk tries to ignore it until I point out his ignoring it for everyone to see.

Now look at his response I quoted above … does that look like anything coming from a Town perspective to you?

Firstly he mis-identifies the issue completely – he’s trying to say I’m “misrepping” his intention. Yet what was the intention of 565 then? It certainly doesn’t reasonably appear to me that he’s saying “Sir Cakez suspicion should be taken with a grain of salt”. If so he could have just typed that and not gone to the trouble of linking multiple games. That post says “Sir Cakez always does this when he’s scum”. His subsequent backpedaling is zakk scum play – flip flop constantly on positions regarding players to establish a pattern of “that’s how I play” so he can’t be held accountable for suspicions. He did that in Adventure Mafia all the time … in fact in the Mafia PT I had to warn him off doing it with Titus later in the game as it was going to get him lynched.

And this isn’t the only example of him here – now suddenly Andrius “isn’t a good lynch” just for providing a wall post. Keep in mind he’s been calling Andrius scum for most of the limited day. Can scum wallpost? Certainly. And he makes absolutely zero comment about any of the content of Andy’s post … just that he shouldn’t be lynched today if he posts like that. Switching gears off an unpopular push but leaving plenty of wiggle room to later say “Oh, I still think he’s scum, blah blah blah”.

Zakk is pretty obvious at this point.

Zakk is wrong on Cakez but not scum. SirCakez has a way of sounding fake as town. Saying you don't want to lynch someone based off new posting is ok, particularly if no one joins you.

[Blade Dancer]

You scum bro?

Nope.

Are you?

If not and think Narna's scum why are you not voting her to help advance the day?

Because I just woke up to a shitton of posts across the site that I have to catch up with and this thread is low on my priority list due to the volume.

You have 224 posts here, the next highest poster is 160.

Since when do you complain about posting levels? Sounds like you are building an excuse not to scumhunt. The posts devoted to exclusively bitching by you and Ank only make the problem worse. There is bitching and scum htimg at the same time.

Is house your patsy for when Narna flips town?

[Blade Dancer]

At this point in the game, I am not for an Andrius lynch.

What are your reads?

Scummy are
01 zakk
02 SirCakez
10 Nosferatu
11 Nahdia
12 Accountant

Need more are
01 zakk
02 SirCakez
08 Shiro
16 McMenno
17 SnarkySnowman
20 Leonshade
21 Andrius
22 massive

Want more are
14 Ankamius
15 SlySly
18 Narna

I am invisible again.

This is getting to wierd to be a coincidence.

[Blade Dancer]

What's a patsy?

Scapegoat.

[Blade Dancer]

my magna vote was ignored. i'm crying. come on, zakk, Snarky isn't a fun wagon.

He's scared to vote me for fear I'll decide to lynch him over Narna given they are both very scummy and there are tons of players scum reading him.

Nah, zakk never was that scummy. I just voted him to support House and get the game going.

[Blade Dancer]

At this point in the game, I am not for an Andrius lynch.

What are your reads?

Scummy are
01 zakk
02 SirCakez
10 Nosferatu
11 Nahdia
12 Accountant

Need more are
01 zakk
02 SirCakez
08 Shiro
16 McMenno
17 SnarkySnowman
20 Leonshade
21 Andrius
22 massive

Want more are
14 Ankamius
15 SlySly
18 Narna

I am invisible again.

This is getting to wierd to be a coincidence.

No you're not. According to what he told me, you're a townread of his.

Then why was I missing in his post? How did you divine that?

[Blade Dancer]

I think we've made progress ... probably only about 1 or 2 more votes before Andy and SlySly can coordinate their voting.

And if town is smart, you won't get it.

There have been plenty of cases with no takers, and the Narna wagon is activity based.

Excuse me while I fart. As an added bonus, it's better than this wagon.

[Blade Dancer]

if you paid attention to my posts you would see that I do have other reads

I have been watching your posts like a hawk. Show me where you try to divine why someone said something.

[Blade Dancer]

At this point in the game, I am not for an Andrius lynch.

What are your reads?

Scummy are
01 zakk
02 SirCakez
10 Nosferatu
11 Nahdia
12 Accountant

Need more are
01 zakk
02 SirCakez
08 Shiro
16 McMenno
17 SnarkySnowman
20 Leonshade
21 Andrius
22 massive

Want more are
14 Ankamius
15 SlySly
18 Narna

I am invisible again.

This is getting to wierd to be a coincidence.

No you're not. According to what he told me, you're a townread of his.

Then why was I missing in his post? How did you divine that?

I asked him.

Finished reading, never saw it.

[Blade Dancer]

@Peregrine how do you not have a read on me by now?

@Blade

Where does Peregrine say he townreads me? I don't get it.

[Blade Dancer]

Zakk, can we get a wagon going that's not a steaming pile of crap?

[Blade Dancer]

VOTE: skullduggery

Hi Snarky!
Make me not want to pl you pls

This being a bastard game I wanna try something.

VOTE: Skullduggery

VOTE: Skullduggery

VOTE: Skullduggery
Thank me if something bad happens.

VOTE: skullduggery

Hey look it's snarky snowman

He only shows up once a year, just like normal snowmen

But for him it's different. He doesn't wait for Christmas

He only shows up for bullshit reasons

Like voting the mod

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

This vote is totally awful, zakk c'mon

VOTE: Magna
still have read nothing besides recent pages. i'm a lazy, lazy student.
zakk, help a div out.

Why tho? I'm not seeing anything scummy from Magna.
I think Magna's zakk case was a result of zakk's natural scumminess as opposed to actual scumminess.

am i scum, Magna?
McMenno, i forget who is a better wagon for you. remind me.
zakk is scummier than Narna, if you compare them. funny, because i think zakk is town.

This further confirms my suspicions that zakk is just always scummy

Recent Chara posting has solidified a read.

If for some reason we cant lynch the pepto slot, can we consider giving Chara death? Im mobile now but will compile my words and thoughts in a bit.

Doesnt seem actually bothered that no one cares about their Magna vote. There's no effort in convincing anyone of the read, no real effort taken to make it a thing. Just a vote.

Then the Amished tell. Assumimg they're not an alt/hydra/whatever, it just reeks of hey its a Named Tell that Im dropping here. But Im not saying I think thinks its relevant, just wondering if anyone else sees this.

Like they dont want to make waves but want to look like youre posting content

I'd rather lynch you then NC.

Blade pls your Nahdia read?

Sorry. Missed that. Nahdia is still scum.

Why is Zakk's vote bad when you wanted to policy lynch Snowman?

[Blade Dancer]

am i scum, Magna?
McMenno, i forget who is a better wagon for you. remind me.
zakk is scummier than Narna, if you compare them. funny, because i think zakk is town.

define

scummier.

scum intent?

scum potential?

scum skill?

hm. let's say scum tone and scum potential. i could easily see players reading your wording and baiting as scummy. i'm not, but it's a reasonable position to take.

Zakk, can we get a wagon going that's not a steaming pile of crap?

how do you feel about an Accountant wagon?
i would be willing to buy that Magna will die early as town.
if i hadn't just finished this game, where Magna was town but i was purged over him. and my play that game was

awful

. it could be an isolated incident.

Skullduggery: thank

God.

we killed Jerry. i was going to policy that if anyone claimed it.

Why not McMenno? I would do accountant but not thrilled tbh.

[Blade Dancer]

cakez just solidified my town read on his slot



yall i'm forming a townbloc, PM me if u want in!!! (jk, dont PM me)


zakk
gamma
house
cakez
nahdia
slysly
mcmenno

i wanna know the opinions of all 6 of u listed above, on all 6 of the rest, including me. please post that as soon as you read this.

i want to create a town block which will conversate together and hopefully vote together without the bullshit of trying to figure out who is scum


if anyone else is a good bet for this group, feel free to suggest them, along with reasons why (and linked posts. this is important)

if you feel anyone should NOT be in this group, please say why you think they should be removed (links help here too but it's more important above)



thank you all.

i look forward to working together with you.

Since Nahdia and McMenno almost scumclaimed in RVS. No on them.

I can accept the rest. Minor paranoia on Cakey.

I should also be there but I don't like being obvtown so there.

[Blade Dancer]

Zakk, can we get a wagon going that's not a steaming pile of crap?

i'm warming up to magna

That's at least not steaming.

[Blade Dancer]

Cakez: i'd have to go through Magna's posts for it. i'll get back to you if i continue to want to push them. depends on interest. if i wait long enough, zakk might do the case for me. :>
there are some other enticing options on the table. i'm not scumreading him for his zakk push. like i said, i could see the reasoning for that. hell, i was on that wagon for a while.
zakk: you're after my own heart. you and Cakez. i could wagon Andrius. out of Magna and Andrius, players who are both sort-of-pushing-me-but-don't-want-to-give-up-pepto, i don't think both of them as scum would be pulling off the same song and dance. so i must choose between the two.
Blade: who are your other strong scumreads besides McMenno? i mean, McMenno is kind of null for me. i don't agree with your early case, he hasn't done anything that makes me want to lynch him, but i don't trust him as town either.
Ankamius: that's all you have right now?

townbloc: zakk is great, Gamma is excellent, House is... eh. probably town but i have some hangups? Cakez is great, Nahdia is good, SlySly is eh... was looking town and i'm not at null there. McMenno is probably the lowest read for me in your proposed list. i've looked through him a few times but found nothing that makes me feel strongly. i'd look at a towncase.

who i'd wagon: Accountant, Magna, Andrius.

Nahdia, Ankimaus, Shito, Nos

Would lynch Ank or Andrius is no better alternative came up.

[Blade Dancer]

Ank or Andrius = accountant or Andrius

[Blade Dancer]

Cakez: you have a lot of experience with Nahdia? i think they've explained themselves adequately. i disagree now, but your tone does make you sound a bit fake.

Blade: hm, i might go for Ank. i haven't really looked at him yet, so i'm not sure.
Nosferatu for inactivity? is that usual for them, or no?
and Shiro is barely a player, i had to check to remember they were here. they claimed miller then went on V/LA because they were busy.
i at least know why you're scumreading Nahdia. Ankamius is my favourite for a lynch out of those, but i don't feel your full list very much.

Why are you townreading Mcmenno? Show me where he scumhunts please.

Well shit. Damn cold.

Mod: Replace Blade Dancer with Titus?

[Blade Dancer]

not feeling an ankamius lynch today

look for those people actively trying to sow distrust

magna is one of those. his posts DRIP with it

scum can NOT allow town to get a good town block going day 1 or we will ROLL them

it's about to happen.

scum is about to get rolled.





i know i'm gonna die tonight. it's okay scum. i forgive you.

Zakk, the problem is your block has scum in it.

[Blade Dancer]

Tbh, it was probably obvious when I had to case mcmenno. Every time but once the "always scum" vote was scum. The only time it wasn't. Firebringer obvious Troll.

Giga had a similar thing where he used RVS to eliminate, rather than sort threats.

It shows a distinct mindset rather than joke RVS votes.

[Blade Dancer]

OMG
I actually asked Titus if she wanted to join.

You are part of the reason I alted. Didn't want your posting to be affected by me. I like watching newer players naturally.

[Blade Dancer]

Why nobody's paranoid of Nahdia?

Uhhh, I have wanted to lynch Nahdia since post 1.

[Blade Dancer]

they (Nahdia) lied? if you've quoted that before, could i see it again?
if i must, i'll case Magna. tomorrow. i don't want to do work today, i have an assignment due and i'm crying. mafia is my procrastination tool. (not actually crying.)

pedit: confirmation came when you quoted your own reasoning for the 'always scum' tell. :> but your posting style had me on it before that.
zakk: Firebringer was a serious guess from you? i don't believe you. hahaha.

Creature: what do you mean, 'nobody'?

I could not find the votes like that being placed on anyone else. Silly no exact phrase search.

[Blade Dancer]

Zakk, the problem is your block has scum in it.

yea i know. tbh i'm counting on it

if i could pick 8 town reads on d1 i would be by far the best player on the site by leaps and boundssssss

i know i'm a good bet for one of the top 3 active on site (patrick, regfan, etc. come to mind as being better than me, but they aren't active), but i don't think i'm a super duper shoo-in for #1

meanwhile:

the beauty of the concept is it works even if there are scum in it

I disagree with your theory. The block does not work if scum in it.

[Blade Dancer]

well then that'd be why you're not invited titus

We could have a block that is all town though.

[Blade Dancer]

Ooh a question I can answer now that my alt was busted.

Cakey has that ability to look fake as town. See College Mafia.

[Blade Dancer]

Hey, House, I am surprised you haven't figured it out. I don't think revealing my main would encourage that. If you cannot judge me on my words but insist on baggage, then that's a problem. We don't judge based on the past but the present.

What's in front of you?

Oh, and you're not 180ing based on new information. You are trying to pidgeonhole a ridiculous theory. I don't mind because I hate being obvtown, but you are engaging in confbias. You "180ed" because I didn't buy your nonsense about Wingdings.

Nice misrep. I 180d because you never tried to sort me and you've been buddying me the entire game.

I've known you're town the entire game, see the damn post I quoted. I've also been telling you to get over yourself because you're voting town. Furthermore, you were screaming that we were "masons" on your level of town

after knowing who I was

. You, earlier, had accepted that. Now, when I disagree on the stupidest theory ever presented, you're insisting I am buddying you all game?

Fuck off. You are trying to sell yourself bullshit to justify sitting on Narna the whole game. Forgive me if I do not help.

[Blade Dancer]

Yeah, that's not even true though.

You almost certainly knew who I was back earlier before my reveal

and we're not bothered.

Can you explain how you think this is a reasonable expectation at all?

The Xbox discussion where House and I talked. He bought me the Xbox.