Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[SnarkySnowman]

motherfucker it's already 11 pages in and it just started. fuck you all VOTE: house for most posts

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Slysly, I don't think that makes any sense, you're not considering a lot of possibilities that can absolutely lead to me having a grapevine to hear things from as town.

Here's what I'm considering.

1. My role PM has no mention of ANY grapevines.

If yours does have something about "grapevine(s)" my initial thought is you are scum.

which refers to

wagon the alt so people don't try to waste time and guess who it is

How do you know that player's an alt? Am I an alt?

I thought I heard that through the grapevine, but there's also the fact that they don't meet the 3 completed games requirement.

I assumed that because you had Mafia Scum as your title that you've at least played 3 games on this account, making you a main.

feels pretty off, even for early game.

Neighborhoods, having friends to talk to via PMs

Did you just claim neighbor?

Also fishing.

VOTE: Slysly

I feel like we could flavor this game.

Yes there are a limited number of scum roles.
There are also a stupid amount of possible fake claim roles. I had Sans and Mettaton as a fakeclaim in the undertale game I ran.

Let's not.

LOL, I get blamed for someone else suggesting they have inside knowledge prior to Day 1 starting and for calling out the "neighbor" they brought up. You guys are either scum or my gf.

Quote of the day!

So what's the flavor? I'm clueless about Undertale.

Go play it, it's like 6$ on steam. Make 1000% sure not to spoil it for yourself. Very worth it!!! One of the best indie games on the market.

zakk is great at faking scumhunting as scum
I wouldn't townread him for that yet

I agree. McMenno's scum with Giga, but no one's biting.

Let's help house sort Zakk.

VOTE: Zakk

Why?????

I am a miller you guys, let's get this fact out of the way.

Noted.

Well this game is off running, innit?

Sly trying to interpret "grapevine" as "scum PT" is reaching SUPER HARD and reads like trying to build a case out of nothing. I would vote him, but i'm unsure of the count and i don't want to put him at L-1 in 5 seconds of starting.

That makes Giga a townread by way of being a scum target.

Creature's #96 is non commital and i don't like it.

Don't PL the alt, that's dumb.

Null on everyone else, though blade dancer is my current top watched null read. Might need to wait for flips to sort him.

Pedit:

I forgot about this before because of the delay, but

my role has several different states it can have, and both Miller and Hated are part of those states.

By the same token, my role benefits from being on lynch wagons and hammering, so please be aware of this.

WHAT THE HELL

This is a scum as fuck catch up.

I completely disagree???

I forgot about this before because of the delay, but

my role has several different states it can have, and both Miller and Hated are part of those states.

By the same token, my role benefits from being on lynch wagons and hammering, so please be aware of this.

Ugh the claim

Pepto why assume it's town vs 1 scum team?

With the flavor, I thought the same thing.

Muahaha excellent my plan worked wonderfully

There aren't enough votes on me yet tho... More please

Get me to at least L-2, I have a super great surprise

.................................

oh thoughts on mcmenno

none. can't read someone from 3 posts unless they're big posts with a lot of thought process behind them

Take a peak how people have interacted / acted towards him though, that's how I've read him so far.




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Through page 10 so far, here are current reads:

Town {Creature, Giga}
Townlean {Not Chara, McMenno, Pepto}
Nulltown {Ank}

Nullscum {Cakez}
Scumlean {House, Blade Dancer}
Scum {SlySly}

wtf the fuck {zakk}


Working on the rest after lunch I guess

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VOTE: skullduggery

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Almost there

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60 pages in and i still think house is scum, am I just totally misreading this???

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Yeah pretty sure Titus is a good lynch today.

VOTE: Titus

I'll post a little more but I was ready to lynch blade dancer, so

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Don't like leon at all.

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So I have the next few hours to pay attention here. Big post coming

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So far I'm not fine with a mcmenno lynch. Can we wait for a bit?

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Still putting things together. New job recently so I'm all over the place.

I recommend not lynching for a while though - run this day out. I think I may have an idea?

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i hope you don't mean to wait for our old deadline to come to pass and risk a no lynch.

In a game where killing people causes pain and suffering, might not be such a risk? The dummy is for talking to, not attacking.

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I've got lots of flavor references, both offand and not, and some reads yes.

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Still pretty sure Titus (blade dancer) is (was) not underground aligned.

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(strongest read atm)

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I don't think we'd be punished for lynching scum, but maybe it would be better for us to see what would happen if we hit the "deadline" that's supposedly tomorrow.

Also I don't know if I believe MoI is scum, as of right now.

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@flavor players- is 1000 years related to a role or the game somehow?

There are flavor references but nothing strong - just tiny details.

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Okay fuck looking at Maxous now - his reads hardly align with mine at all

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Nos, your readlist doesn't really make sense to me either. I kind of get your thought process at least but let me read up a bit and ask you a thing or few.

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RIP town Magna

we weren't even at deadline

Shiro is on the chopping block for me now.

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if we lynch magna and he flips town can we lynch narna tomorrow?

Lining up lynches, are we?

lining up lynches is a garbage scumtell, town do it just as often, if not more, then scum
it's like AtE
thanks NC

VOTE: moi
I'm only doing this because we need a lynch badly and since he'll probably flip town, it will create lots of juicy vca, wagon analysis and what not tomorrow

>voting for lynch
>"he'll probably flip town"

I get that we want a flip, but not a town mindset there buddy

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Day 1 Will End on Saturday, October 22nd, at 5 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-10-22 17:00:00)

We've talked about that a ton though. A skele-ton.

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TO BE FAIR nobody listens to me ever BUT

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hard af to keep up when every time i look there are 20 more page.


Anyhow, MoI flips town, I'm like 90% sure, so -> who's scum on that wagon. It wasn't town driven, that's for sure.

Shiro, Leonshade, SirCakez, Nosferatu, Gamma, Creature, Maxous, Firebringer, Narna, Not Chara, Nahdia, zakk

Notably not on it: Titus, SlySly

Of those on the wagon Creature and Shiro stick out to me, but I'll comment on others too


Shiro first. 3253 and 3256 and then going to the "deadline" hammer? Meh. Re-reading this, I actually can still see this being town (also recall the miller claim - not necessarily a good gambit for scum, since we get rid of millers usually by lategame anyway). The hammer stuck out pretty bad for me though. Then again, everyone seems all over the deadline, whereas I'm not at all concerned, so take that into account.

Creature. Only comment I have is that the readback leading up to the vote is less than helpful. I don't really like the "oh I'll go with my gut" (see 3375).

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So I have the next few hours to pay attention here. Big post coming

So when is this?

I got bored of reading through 50 pages of nonsense

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not true, Snarky. i agree with you. i think the new deadline was real and the day would have simply continued had we not lynched/voted no lynch. but i wasn't sure, the risk didn't seem worth it, and

also

, Magna is scum.

>Not worth the risk

Heh, see I fully disagree, but too late now.

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Anyway, that's all from me for the night.

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VOTE: SirCakez

"we needed the lynch even though he was flipping town"

really?

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Slysly taking such a highroad on this makes me uneasy.

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VOTE: SlySly

Really not comfortable with how this day is for him so far.

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Hi guys, just noticed the site was back up!

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Giovanni's vote sucks.


Cakez, probably because of Not Chara, who has a hydra with A50 called Almost Chara with a very similar profile picture. I got mixed up too.

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Hey Almost50

go play undertale. If you like games with a really strong story, A+ music and decent gameplay, do it. ITS SO GOOD and it's only like 8$ usd on steam

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That said, flavor-wise, Andrius shouldn't be town if that's legit. Or at least, doesn't have a solid, not-possible-to-change wincon.

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Knowing the mouse might one day leave its hole and get the cheese... It fills Firebringer with determination.

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At this point, given the deadline compared to yesterday, my guess is we're on a neutral run now.

We need a good lynch.

Titus is that great lynch. SlySly is also good.

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Nahdia could you label your brackets please

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Where is neutral?

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So you're bullshitting it then?

[SnarkySnowman]

So you're bullshitting it then?

No. Are you concerned with this because you're trying to read me or because you're concerned with my read on you.

The former.

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What the game lacks right now is information and he is the most informative lynch choice we have.

why.

If Narna flips scum, then hooray, we got scum. We can work from there.

If Narna flips town, then what? This is an honest question, as I can't find how a Narna townflip would benefit Town as a whole.

If McMenno flips scum, then tomorrow we will be able to form more solid opinions against the N clan (as well as the Gamma Emerald slot and possibly Firebringer).

If McMenno flips town, then we can also start suspeting the tail of the MoI wagon, starting with Shiro.


Either way, McMenno's presence is too distracting. No matter his alignment, he is used as a "scapegoat" easy wagon right now. If he is still alive tomorrow, no matter his alignment, he will still be the "easy" distracting wagon.

My read on him is 60/40 in favor of being scum. Narna at least has tried justifying his MoI vote change while McMenno has done nothing of value during Day 2. No, I don't feel completely comfortable with not lynching Narna, mainly because he hasn't done anything after justifying his Day 1 actions during Day 2. Both of them have done no actual scumhunting during Day 2, while being in a great position to do so. Narna has tried to justify, McMenno literally is "lynch Narna, lel" and nothing more.

With all that said, I think McMenno is actually the "mid risk - mid reward" lynch option while Narna is more of a "high risk - high reward" one. McMenno's lynch and flip will benefit Town in general no matter which side he flips, while Narna's will help Town more than McMenno's only if he is scum.

Stop posting nonsense

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Yeah this is where to go.

VOTE: Giovanni

SlySly is worth lynching too, but this is bad. And I scumread house ftr

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See nosferatu has different reads than me but I can understand where they come from. My reads sucking doesn't make me scum.

I don't like Nahdia because I can't understand and they won't clarify what level of read each bracket was, which means it's tough for me to understand the mindset behind them (I have to imagine they're kinda vague on purpose). See the difference?

And Giovanni is just spouting nonsense, I don't get why people think it's legit.

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great bit there Andrius @4060

I don't see how Gaster is decidedly anti-town by the way. 3p / underground-aligned is most likely based on game flavor, I'd imagine. But that's probably irrelevant information at the moment.

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Sorry I'm missing this but where did Menno claim?

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I'll be back tomorrow night to comment.

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I'm more with Not Chara on this one, and I still want Titus lynched.

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Remember how shiro is also a miller?

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Not Chara is town guys

Please


Can
We
Lynch
Titus

[SnarkySnowman]

Today,
Consider voting
for
th single player I'm
v sure is scum


pls america don't tilt, vote titus

[SnarkySnowman]

BECAUSE

blade dancer was
scum

as FUCK

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Try it motherfucka, you won't

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There's no way that post came from a town mindset, Almost............

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well, I've fallen behind a little

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Fuck everything else, can we lynch Almost now?

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Almost, I want you to respond to what Narna said, because I don't think it's nonsense at all.

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Cakez is on it

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SnarkySnowman being active in this game is a town tell.

Lul



also @titus - can you see any way Almost would be scum or is that just not a possibility for you

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Snarky and Almost are probably town.

Probably?? I'm "probably" Town?? Somehow I find it hard to believe you're still not 100% sure of my alignment, role and every other little detail in my role PM.

Like this. This, to me, is so scummy

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you think scum!Almost is taking refuge in absurdity?

Pretty much

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I don't believe that you believe what you're saying, for the most part

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Snarky and Almost are probably town.

Probably?? I'm "probably" Town?? Somehow I find it hard to believe you're still not 100% sure of my alignment, role and every other little detail in my role PM.

Like this. This, to me, is so scummy

To you it may be. You don't usually pay much attention to minor details (no offense.. I respect your playstyle). Titus on the other hand would take a post and analyze it in a forensic lab for DNA and stuff, so NO WAY she has missed a fluffy hair ball here or a collar/bracelet there at the crime scene. NO WAY.

Like this, this is what gets me.

"Titus said I'm town so I MUST BE TOWN." logic

That's not town.

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I did see the flavor shit fyi, I caught that. The play doesn't feel like town though, and no doubt there are fake claims available

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Annoying Dog. I ran that as neutral in my Undertale game by the way (was my favorite role to make!)

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Gave out Dog Residue, which filled inventories that might have done other useful stuff. Won if every other player's inventory was full (aka annoyed everyone)

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Was that the one where I subbed in as a mason lover?

yup!

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Reminder that I still think SlySly needs rope

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I'm against lynching Slysly.

Why

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Cakez how do you feel about almost right now?

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VOTE: no lynch

Thinking about it again, I think this is a valid move still.

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The revolution is at hand.

Let's lynch

Vote:Almost

Join me brave warrior. J

i support this if we cant all just get along

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I think only scum need blood :/

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Is that legit

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Narna needs to be the lynch today. A50 should be a follow-up not long after. Shiro will be sorted out just by what happens in the next day or two.

Eye still on Titus, Giovanni, Maxous.

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I do enjoy how only people I scumread right now are voting Shiro, and townreads are voting Narna or A50

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Maybe titus can be town. Cakez is spot on with massive

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I enjoyed this game and was kinda sad to be replaced. Followed it up to the end though, reading through the mechanics / roles I really didn't expect that, but still really neat / nice job skull!