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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:39 am

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Votecount 1.15


AlpacaAlpaca
(1) - malpascp
Thor665
(2) - cmitc1, ironstove
karnos
(4) - Saru, Thor665, Knighty Knight, Lowell
Knighty Knight
(3) - LmkGuy, PenguinPower, aronagrundy
LmkGuy
(1) - Nero Cain
Saru
(1) - karnos

Not Voting
(1) - AlpacaAlpaca

With
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7
to lynch!

Day 1 will end in
(expired on 2016-10-24 15:08:49).

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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:45 am

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@MOD:
I'm pretty sure Nero is still voting Lmk.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:18 am

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In post 476, Saru wrote:
@MOD:
I'm pretty sure Nero is still voting Lmk.
Man, I'm not having a good day.

Fixed!
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:37 am

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I guess mod really wants me to be voting lmk. That's fine, I guess.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:51 am

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@Mod:
Aronagrundy is on Knighty Knight.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:54 am

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In post 470, karnos wrote:Yes, you are being very specifically wrong.
Not really -though I agree you disagree with us.
In post 470, karnos wrote:Correct me if I am wrong: your assertion is that I am scum because I said I would never share a single town read, after claiming to have a town read on iron.
You are wrong, and I have explained the reasoning of my case before.
In post 470, karnos wrote:The problem being, I NEVER said that I wouldn't share a single town read. I specifically said that sharing all information was anti-town, but then I gave several examples of exceptions to that. I actually didn't think it would be necessary to spell out an exception in something I was already doing, but I guess scum can be pedantic and their arguments.
So what is the logic of this exception to your rule?
It's okay to call out a town read to sheep him on a slot that you maybe sorta scumread?
Explain how that logic works within your reasoning to not reveal townreads - because I am missing it.
In post 471, karnos wrote:So what? It's still the correct play to lynch your top scum reads, even if it's unlikely they are all scum.

Picking randomly, you are about 23% likely to find scum in this game.

Picked from a pool of 3, in which 2 are scum, you are 66% likely to hit scum. Even if he (and I, as I share similar reads on you and Saru) are way off and only one of the 3 are actually scum, that is still a 33% chance of hitting scum, significantly above the average.
Well, it's actually a 25% random chance, since you wouldn't pick yourself, yeah?
So you're thinking that when he listed his scumteam what he really meant was "here are three random people [not chosen randomly] of whom I think at least one is probably scum!'?

Oooookay. I don't think he said that, but if you love it, that's swell.
Here are my three [Karnos, Iro, Knight]
Oooh, we better lynch all of them, at least one scum in there with better odds than town would otherwise have! Brilliance!
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:02 am

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In post 478, Lowell wrote:I guess mod really wants me to be voting lmk. That's fine, I guess.
In post 479, PenguinPower wrote:
@Mod:
Aronagrundy is on Knighty Knight.
Fixed and fixed.

I was having such a good run. :(
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:08 am

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It's okay, I'll still pretend to like you ;)
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:41 am

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V/LA for indefinite period of time
. Basically my ISP cut my connection for no fucking reason so I'm posting using my mobile data, and that will be my only option for the next few days, so I have to use it sparingly.
Tomorrow I'll post something game related (tbh I didn't even catch up yet)
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:17 pm

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In post 483, malpascp wrote:
V/LA for indefinite period of time
. Basically my ISP cut my connection for no fucking reason so I'm posting using my mobile data, and that will be my only option for the next few days, so I have to use it sparingly.
Tomorrow I'll post something game related (tbh I didn't even catch up yet)
replace out?
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:33 pm

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I'm hoping it's fixed by tomorrow, a realistic expectation is 3 days to a week. Should be simple to fix (if they weren't so fucking dumb).
I'll probably spend time at the mall before and after work so I can have free internet.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:42 pm

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In post 460, Thor665 wrote:
In post 459, PenguinPower wrote:Why do you think he's being overly defensive. It looks to me like Thor/Saru are going after him pretty hard and he's responding.
I'll actually agree that it isn't over defensive (or, rather, it is defensive - and it's impossible to be over defensive) but I do think it represents flail.
I'll happily agree he's under pressure, but are you reading his answers and defenses?
That's another way to put it I guess. I'm talking about going so far in your own defense that you go out of your way to discredit the person arguing with you (pp did some of this too just to a lesser degree, which is why I voted him a few pages ago) by saying that their case is based on like some trauma from a game that happened in the past. That's where I got the "overly" part but I think we're just disagreeing on semantics here.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:53 pm

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In post 459, PenguinPower wrote:[
In post 438, aronagrundy wrote:btw pp when you return I would love a response to my original vote on you
It was weak.
Good talk.

For real tho, what are your thoughts on me/lowell at the moment? Beyond your original posts where you voted me/him, you didn't really go much further in explaining.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:45 pm

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Ok, guys that was a nice distraction that scum made with Karnos, can we get back on the Thor wagon now? Thank you.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:55 pm

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Why does anyone think Iron is town?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:42 pm

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cmitc1 has requested replacement.

Looking for one now.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:10 am

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In post 489, Nero Cain wrote:Why does anyone think Iron is town?
If Karnos is scum, then I think he probably blatantly is.
Otherwise - I have no idea, nor town read.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:42 am

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In post 487, aronagrundy wrote:Good talk.

For real tho, what are your thoughts on me/lowell at the moment? Beyond your original posts where you voted me/him, you didn't really go much further in explaining.
Eh, you're null-leantown. Lowell is leanscum what with his misrep readlist, and scumvote because of association on karnos. The last bit really pings me.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:28 pm

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GreyICE replaces cmitc1!

Everyone welcome him!
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:42 pm

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Oh hey y'all. I've read post #492. Can we lynch Penguin for saying misrep in a non-ironic way?

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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:43 pm

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Oh balls he's town. Goddamn it.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:43 pm

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Well that's it for scumspects unless I do something wacky like read anyone else in the game.

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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:54 pm

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Who is Thor's vote on? Karnos? What a shit vote.

I'd lynch Al-Anon, that seems like fun.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:56 pm

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In post 448, Lowell wrote:Lmk and knighty are attacking each other for doing the exact same thing. My work here is done.

Also there's some major derailing going on from aron. 381 is the post that catches your eye several pages later? Why? It's... fine, I guess? But it causes you to change the vote you just made? (presumably also after having seen epic post 381)

There's enough people at various times trying to passive-aggressively derail this karnos wagon that it's probably right. At least some of them must be protecting a buddy.

VOTE: karnos
This is a garbage reason to 180 a town read.

Then again it's Lowell soooooooooooooooo null
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:59 pm

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Actually wait, no, I want to dig more.
Yo lurkfuck. Yes, you Lowell:

In post 304, Lowell wrote:
alpaca
. He basically handled the early pressure fine, and though his posts aren't particularly illuminating, his inquisitiveness reads townish to me. Also, see below, I'm pretty sure he's being whiteknighted.
In post 57, Lowell wrote:VOTE: knighty

This guy is whiteknighting the hell out of alpaca.

also nero is town.
You are super down with the idea of "white knighting" earlier in the thread and even specifically call out someone who does it. But you say there's people trying to derail the Karnos wagon. Who are these people? Why
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