STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Almost50]

I believe there are two Crystal Gems alive, farside22 could be one, MoI could be the other.

Farside is NOT a CG. Period.

[Creature]

Nor town.

[farside22]

I'm almost certain if the day ends in a no lynch, neither effect will take place, because a no lynch is not the same as a non scum lynch.
-Cerb

I verified this in the PT with kraska.
The scum can do actions with a no lynch.

Why on earth I would want to align with someone who was toxic is beyond understanding.
I even stated after I said I would i wasn't going to do it any more.

Also you are being completely nonsensical to the point of looking scummy.
You think kraska is scum and will change the event?
How much sense does that make.
Twie claimed vig and there is no one dead and you barely push him.
You think there is 3 scum, including me, left which makes no sense at all given the beach event.
Calm the fuck down and let's finish the claims here.

[farside22]

Nor town.

I doubt your town, so we have that in common.
Why did you say snarky was town, then vote him the next day?

[Creature]

The problem is that you have the power to take over the majority of the votes, which is bad.

[Creature]

The way he said he had an action that worked with Greg (Cakez' fakeclaim) made me think that was a fakeclaim.

[Reasonably Rational]

Farside, TWIE hasn't shown up yet. What exactly is there to push him on? I need to know what his response is before I can say anything more.

And his kill or not has no relation to your voting pattern only working on town. You haven't even tried to explain that. I can actually think of a few different explanations, but instead you're just going off on other tangents.

Why did you place exactly enough votes on snarky to lynch him if he was town, but not enough to kynch him if he was scum?

Also, I don't particularly feel kraska is scummy. *shrug*

-Cerb

[MagnaofIllusion]

Phone posting at rest stop during 12 hour drive.

No Alliance. Pissed that Random flaked out on Gem chat and my post about allying.

Creature absolutely needs to explain how he had a Night action result he shared with XK and Shadow in their PT overnight if Town was supposed to be foregoing actions to prevent the Scum event. He's prob scum was XK and my conclusion.

Farside should have been taken care of days ago like I said. Too bad players like RR spent too much time fighting Titus and me on that end.

VOTE: farside to demonstrate lack of vote power.

[Reasonably Rational]

Welp, now that MoI has 100% outed you, Random, can you explain how you both thought gems were all town, but also had MoI as your top suspect out of creatures pool?

Also, MoI, we only fought Farside's kynch on one day. And we pushed REALLY hard to get farside lynched on D3, after we realized we'd be able to bypass her lynch protection, if she had any more.

Not that that went badly since we still ended up on DGB, but you're absolutely misrepresenting us fighting against Farside's lynch.
-Cerb

[Varsoon]

@Varsoon: when did those cluster deaths happen, NAR wise? If someone submitted a kill for someone who the cluster would have killed, would the clusterm have killed whoever was next in line as top contributor, or would it simply have killed one less person?

The Cluster's kills resolved immediately after the scum factional kill in NAR.
The Cluster was guaranteed to kill the top two contributors alive after other kills resolved.

[farside22]

The way he said he had an action that worked with Greg (Cakez' fakeclaim) made me think that was a fakeclaim.

Why didn't you say that before?

Farside, TWIE hasn't shown up yet. What exactly is there to push him on? I need to know what his response is before I can say anything more.

And his kill or not has no relation to your voting pattern only working on town. You haven't even tried to explain that. I can actually think of a few different explanations, but instead you're just going off on other tangents.

Why did you place exactly enough votes on snarky to lynch him if he was town, but not enough to kynch him if he was scum?

Also, I don't particularly feel kraska is scummy. *shrug*

-Cerb

That's not at all hard to understand.
Scum snarky would have taken one more to lynch.
Again I felt sure he was scum and was trying to prove it to stop the Titus tirade.

Touche in regards to twie
He will probably lurk till votes pile on him again.

Again I feel your going off weird tangents here.
Only scum wanted votes but only me and kraska are known to be in alliance together.
Only I'm scum because some hypothetically crap you made up.

If your town stop spamming the shit of this game, wait for everyone to show up and claim, then we can argue after.

[Reasonably Rational]

The way he said he had an action that worked with Greg (Cakez' fakeclaim) made me think that was a fakeclaim.

Why didn't you say that before?

Farside, TWIE hasn't shown up yet. What exactly is there to push him on? I need to know what his response is before I can say anything more.

And his kill or not has no relation to your voting pattern only working on town. You haven't even tried to explain that. I can actually think of a few different explanations, but instead you're just going off on other tangents.

Why did you place exactly enough votes on snarky to lynch him if he was town, but not enough to kynch him if he was scum?

Also, I don't particularly feel kraska is scummy. *shrug*

-Cerb

That's not at all hard to understand.
Scum snarky would have taken one more to lynch.
Again I felt sure he was scum and was trying to prove it to stop the Titus tirade.

Touche in regards to twie
He will probably lurk till votes pile on him again.

Again I feel your going off weird tangents here.
Only scum wanted votes but only me and kraska are known to be in alliance together.
Only I'm scum because some hypothetically crap you made up.

If your town stop spamming the shit of this game, wait for everyone to show up and claim, then we can argue after.

So...you admit you were deliberately aiming for 8 votes?

And expected snarky to be at l-1 after that.

And just didn't care if he was town and you ended the day?

I actually feel it's more likely scum wanted us to no lynch today, buying them an extra NK, and then to have you force a mislynch on someone tomorrow, allowing yet another nk, so town would be down 3 more slots before anyone had a chance to lynch you. Maybe even 5 slots depending on how to our vote power functions and is limited.

Everyone has shown up except mastin and twie I think. Mastin usually posts in thr evening/early morning, and is also vla on weekends, and twie is twie and barely around ever.

-Cerb

[Varsoon]

@Varsoon: when someone places a new named vote using a different voting mechanic, if that mechanic doesn't specify that previous named votes remain in place, what happens to their previously placed votes?

Following my voting mechanics, if a player can submit multiple votes that use their name as the voting tag, doing so will remove their previous named voting tag. So, for instance, in the case of Skybird's role, which could render a double vote:
If Skybird was voting normally for Varsoon, the VC would reflect:
Varsoon (1): Skybird
If Skybird double-voted for someone else (Cheetory6, here), the VC would reflect:
Cheetory6 (2): Skybird
If Skybird double-voted for Varsoon, the VC would reflect:
Varsoon (2): Skybird

However, this sort of thing heavily relies on the way that I have written the voting mechanics on any given role. Take this as a general rule of thumb/a standard that I build from and not a Word-of-God reflection of how all multi-voting mechanics will be rendered.

[Varsoon]

@Varsoon:

If Scum are removed from the game tonight, can they still submit/form alliances on phase 6?
Put another way (but please treat it as a separate question for the sake of clarity): Can scum still submit alliance requests in advance and/or during the Climax phase?

It does NOT affect PTs or Allying, it only removes scum from the game for the sake of submitting and being affected by actions.
If it affected PTs and/or Allying, it'd basically out the entire scum team. Not so hot of a scum event, in that case.
Apologies if it seemed a bit vague in the description.

[farside22]

mod: vote count please

[farside22]

mid: does scum get an extra kill with a no lynch

[Varsoon]

mid: does scum get an extra kill with a no lynch

A No Lynch keeps all of the Event outcomes from happening, as both are contingent on a lynch occurring.

[farside22]

mid: does scum get an extra kill with a no lynch

A No Lynch keeps all of the Event outcomes from happening, as both are contingent on a lynch occurring.

Thanks you for dashing theories from rr.

[farside22]

For lol.

VOTE: creature

[Varsoon]

"Who cares about how I feel? How you feel is bound to be much more interesting."

-Rose Quartz,

The Answer

VOTECOUNT 5.01

Creature (1):

Farside22

Not Voting (12):

Shadow_Step, Almost50, Shiro, Reasonably Rational, grapes, mastin2, Kraskaeaque, MagnaofIllusion, Thefuzzylogic99, Creature, randomidget, TheWayItEnds

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2016-11-04 10:00:00)

The Current Stress is Neutral:

[Reasonably Rational]

mid: does scum get an extra kill with a no lynch

A No Lynch keeps all of the Event outcomes from happening, as both are contingent on a lynch occurring.

Thanks you for dashing theories from rr.

I did not say a no lynch would give the scum team an extra kill. I actually CLEARLY said I believed a no lynch would result in none of the effects happening.

You clearly misunderstood me. When I said the plan was to force a no lynch todsy, and then did extra scum kill, I did not mean there could be TWO scum kills, but thst by forcing a no lynch versus normal game progression the scum team would come ahead one extra kill.

-Cerb

[Almost50]

mid: does scum get an extra kill with a no lynch

A No Lynch keeps all of the Event outcomes from happening, as both are contingent on a lynch occurring.

Thanks you for dashing theories from rr.

This IS what RR said. It was

I

who suggested a NL would count as a "non scum lynch".

[Creature]

Yep, it's literally impossible to make a lynch there.

[farside22]

Oh and someone explain to me why on earth you would randomly alliance with a player, when you can chat in a pt, make a possible alliance with someone you already are aligned with that day?

[farside22]

The way he said he had an action that worked with Greg (Cakez' fakeclaim) made me think that was a fakeclaim.

Why didn't you say that before?

Farside, TWIE hasn't shown up yet. What exactly is there to push him on? I need to know what his response is before I can say anything more.

And his kill or not has no relation to your voting pattern only working on town. You haven't even tried to explain that. I can actually think of a few different explanations, but instead you're just going off on other tangents.

Why did you place exactly enough votes on snarky to lynch him if he was town, but not enough to kynch him if he was scum?

Also, I don't particularly feel kraska is scummy. *shrug*

-Cerb

That's not at all hard to understand.
Scum snarky would have taken one more to lynch.
Again I felt sure he was scum and was trying to prove it to stop the Titus tirade.

Touche in regards to twie
He will probably lurk till votes pile on him again.

Again I feel your going off weird tangents here.
Only scum wanted votes but only me and kraska are known to be in alliance together.
Only I'm scum because some hypothetically crap you made up.

If your town stop spamming the shit of this game, wait for everyone to show up and claim, then we can argue after.

So...you admit you were deliberately aiming for 8 votes?

And expected snarky to be at l-1 after that.

And just didn't care if he was town and you ended the day?

I actually feel it's more likely scum wanted us to no lynch today, buying them an extra NK, and then to have you force a mislynch on someone tomorrow, allowing yet another nk, so town would be down 3 more slots before anyone had a chance to lynch you.

Maybe even 5 slots depending on how to our vote power functions and is limited.

Everyone has shown up except mastin and twie I think. Mastin usually posts in thr evening/early morning, and is also vla on weekends, and twie is twie and barely around ever.

-Cerb

Tell me how I misrepped the bold