Open 655: Fire and Ice Mafia OVER

[Creature]

Got a town PM

[Creature]

The weather is good. Is it too hot or too cold there?

[Creature]

My vote is in the right place.

[Creature]

Tenshii town
Io town
Drone probtown
Blix900 townlean

[Creature]

I noticed I am townreading everybody on my wagon, let me see something.

[Creature]

Don't want to remove any townread there.

[Creature]

Expedience can also join this list.

[Creature]

Guess Firebringer's computer either overheat or freezed.

[Creature]

My vote is in the right place.

So you caught up and deduced that i am scum in ~15 minutes after replacing in? No comment.

It's easy to difference your scum and town play.

[Creature]

Why can't people be more readable?

[Creature]

Why can't people be more readable?

I had to stop and laugh for a good second seeing you said this,

Don't worry, eventually I'll lynch you.

[Creature]

Creature is very readable.
But to answer your question creature, what fun would it be if it was easy?

At least so I can have a decent couple of posts to read.

[Creature]

VOTE: MariaR

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Nvm, that slot is scum.

VOTE: Dunnstral

[Creature]

@Creature Please explain your reads.

Oh let me see, your posts sound like these weird ones you make as town.

Io is a meta read.

Drone is a gut and another reason I can't tell (really, it's not worth questioning it).

Blix900 is pushing discussion, I like it.

Charloux looks like how he plays as scum (jester-y) rather than town (shy).

[Creature]

lol Dunnstral already gave up.

[Creature]

@Creature Elaborate more on your Tenshii,

Micro 647

Io,

Mini Normal 1827 and Newbie 1690

and Blix read?

Spoiler:

Eh, what the hell.

VOTE: Kop

lazy town

The best read I've seen all day.

So you don't think Harkonnen is scum anymore, Blix900?

Nah I still read him as scum, I just felt like wagoning.

blix ur fucking scum mate

I want you to take a pic of your face when I flip town mate

i wouldnt be scumreading him if he kept his vote on me. i would be reading him as dumb/lazy town then. but the fact that he so easily stopped scumreading me means he was just acting and he was picking at my post just for the sake of having a scumread.

Or I was attacking you to see how you would react? Dude you seriously don't have a problem with the English language, give yourself some credit if you actually think you're bad at English.

not dumb like you.

Any reason you're insulting me? Feeling the heat?

[Creature]

@Creature Elaborate even more on your Tenshii, Io, and Blix read?

[Creature]

@Creature Elaborate even even more on your Tenshii, Io, and Blix read?

[Creature]

@Creature Elaborate everything until you get RSI on your Tenshii, Io, and Blix read?

[Creature]

Yes, I am, just don't make me explain everything to the last detail.

[Creature]

Some like this:

^scumbuddies distancing xd

And yet no vote

i already have 3 townreads and 1 scumread.

no

i was just kidding. i wanted to look smart.

Failed attempt at looking like smart town

VOTE: Harkonnen97

Am I the scumread?

Also FoS Expedience for asking about himself instead of just the reads in general

[Creature]

I don't get how my posts give off a town vibe/weird vibe either. And you're just stating games, not really saying why they are similar.

That's what you said in another game (I think).

[Creature]

Both

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Because I feel you make these posts as town (I don't know your scum meta though).

[Creature]

Because so far I was always right.

[Creature]

I voted Creature because his townreads have little/no substance behind it.

Not a scum tell.

In all of my completed games, scum has townread me for weak reasons.

My reason isn't weak though, you can't understand.

And in one of those games, Creature was scum and townread me just like how he's townreading me now.

Scum!me is me trying to imitate how town!me would read others.

[Creature]

Like you questioning my townread on you solidified it quite more.

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but seriously, no town member ever had you as town for something like meta?

[Creature]

Because I had a feeling this is your town game, can't explain feelings.

[Creature]

How's questioning a townread a scum tell?

[Creature]

Oh no, 649!MariaR strikes again.

VOTE: MariaR

[Creature]

Inb4 this game gets an entirely new playerlist.

[Creature]

1. Creature
2. Firebringer
3. Io

4. MariaR

5. Tenshii

6. Charloux

7. Expedience

8. rJXr

9. Dunnstral
10. Drone

11. Narurider*
12. Blix900
13. Kop

[Creature]

Nvm, that post 99 is bad.

VOTE: Blix900

[Creature]

Btw, Expedience is town and I feel this is different than the game where he was buddying me.

[Creature]

The way he avoided the Charloux wagon and never commented on him, I wouldn't be surprised with a Charloux + Kop scum team.

[Creature]

Oh nvm, I wasn't voting Charloux.

[Creature]

Blix900 is posting elsewhere.

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But you're the only one voting Io.

[Creature]

I glimpsed over the whole wagon forming, and didn't feel anything to contribute towards it.

[Creature]

I'm happy with VOTE: Charloux

[Creature]

L-2 btw

Still recommend you count the votes.

[Creature]

4 more hours until another prod.

[Creature]

I'd like to L-1 Charloux.

[Creature]

Nothing's really happening.

[Creature]

It's funny because if scum is being wagoned, only one can save them besides themselves.

[Creature]

If I could use my PC...

[Creature]

Also I love the way he says "IF I flip town", not "WHEN I flip town".

lol malpascp thinks this actually means something.

[Creature]

Hi Not_Not_Mafia

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Damn, I forgot this game.

[Creature]

But it looks like half the players also forgot the game.

[Creature]

Actually I have no resistance to Kop wagon.

How many votes he's currently at?

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VOTE: Kop

L-1

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VOTE: Fluffynuggets

[Creature]

I'd rather hunt ice mafia

[Creature]

If we lynch fire mafia today, tomorrow we're most likely going to a 6:2 (maybe without the doctor).

[Creature]

If we lynch ice mafia today, we're going night with 7:1:1 and scum has a chance of crosskilling.

Even if we mislynch, there's a chance that scum will crosskill (also it's ideal for the last fire goon to kill an ice goon).

[Creature]

Nah, if we lynch Fire today, our chance to win will be very small.

[Creature]

Then we'll have to find an ice goon and then find associative.

[Creature]

Nah, if we lynch Fire today, our chance to win will be very small.

If scum don't cross kill we have to lynch scum EVERY DAY in order to not lose

??? That's busted

If we get to 1:1:1

Nolynch, scum will be forced into a dilemma where they can either kill the townie, or kill the other. If both kill each other, town win.

If we get to 2:1:1

One townie candidates to get lynched, scum goes night with 1:1:1.

[Creature]

If we lynch the last fire goon today, we're going to have a semi-mountainuous 7:2 with a nightstart.

[Creature]

Toooold you.

[Creature]

Now we have two associatives to work with.

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So it's currently 5:1:1, even if it doesn't look like, we're in a good spot:

Always calculate the number of players left in each faction.
5:1:1
4:1:1
3:1:1
If the game is currently in one of these states, you can aim to get scum without straight out losing (note that you'll have to find the other scum too).

When it's 2:1:1, one town member should volunteer to get lynched:
- Scum won't volunteer because then they'd auto-lose.
- If scum doesn't vote, he basically outed his identity to the other scum.
- With a town lynch, we'd go night to 1:1:1

1:1:1
If it's day, aim to nolynch. If one scum tries to push your lynch so both scum can tie, vote him. If scum are aware they'll be voted if they do it, they'll avoid doing it so they don't lose.
Scum are going to be stuck in a dilemma:
- If both scum decides to kill the other, town wins.
- If both scum decides to kill the town, the townie won't die.
- If one scum decides to kill the other while the other decides to kill the town, then one of them will win. But I find it unlikely one scum will target the town when it's basically handing the other scum the win.
- If scum keeps no killing, keep nolynching. "Happily ever after" draw is better than a loss.

[Creature]

Actually, I think it's better to nolynch during 3:1:1.

[Creature]

Remember when you thought my "our winrate is" was scummy and was wrong?

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Yeah, this should be a new Logical Fallacy.

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

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If it's 5:1:1 or 4:1:1 we lynch anyway. If it's 3:1:1 or 1:1:1 we nolynch. If it's 2:1:1 we lynch town (aka one town member offers to get lynched).

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I recommend nolynching if it's 3:1:1. If we mislynch there, we would go night with 2:1:1, where scum killing each other or killing the same town is less likely, meaning town is most likely to lose there.

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Happy with Lowell lynch

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I think I have an idea of who's most likely the Ice Goon.

[Creature]

Okay, so if Lowell's town, Io is ice goon and Charloux is fire goon.

You can kill each other now.

[Creature]

If scum manages to bring town to 2:1:1, as town, you should offer yourself to be lynched (like voting yourself).

Don't worry, scum surely won't try to get themselves lynched lol

[Creature]

What are you guys talking about? I'm the doctor.

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Told you to nolynch when 3:1:1