Micro 655: Forest Fire - Endgame

[Fire Assassin]

VOTE: The_Jester

For being scum in that one game I townread you.

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bye bye bye.

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Isn't this exactly how you started in LoL mafia?

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I am a god.
So what we going to do with the rest of this page?

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I don't really want to shit post on here.
Not the purpose of this account.

But I must ask.
What is his mom guilty of?

Also:
Hey BBmolla, nice playing with you again man.
How you doing?

[Fire Assassin]

Honestly I'm pretty terrible. Going through love/emotional withdrawals due to breakup. Basically told her to break up with me as a friend to friend because I was neglecting her. I have a crippling video game addiction that I keep saying I'll quit every day and never do, instead wasting all my time playing games instead of creating work. I'm wholly unfulfilled with my life at the moment, but realistically I have a home and support so it could be a lot worse.

jester is a legit good vote btw

Maybe you gotta just take a break from the games (hopefully not this one), just like make it hard for you to game for awhile.
Know someone you can store those games at (assuming this is consoles, a computer game addiction will be harder).

Although I do think you can put locks on your computer from preventing accessing applications (which won't be disabled for certain period).

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Don't quit your day job yet to pursue your dream of comedy. I think you gotta work out the kinks a bit more.

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Okay now, lets do serious wagon:
VOTE: BBMolla

Lets kick us out of RVS.

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Do you not know what serious is?

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NO ONE TOLD ME THIS STARTED ;-;

Now, you know.
Knowledge is power.

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Do you not know what serious is?

Like do I actually have to vote for who I think is scum now cuz I still don't know and I dont wanna be pressured

hmmmm....
I think Vifam is town here.

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I pref to stay in the shitposting forever type of game because it's fun yes ty

If you can mix content with shit posting, that would be amazing.
Want to throw a vote out just for the hell of it though?

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Okay now, lets do serious wagon:
VOTE: BBMolla

Lets kick us out of RVS.

Do you not know what serious is?

Like do I actually have to vote for who I think is scum now cuz I still don't know and I dont wanna be pressured

hmmmm....
I think Vifam is town here.

Can we lynch this please?

VOTE: fire

Also cool to play with you again flub (and bb)

@Tier We can lynch that if we get enough votes on that person.

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I tried not to quote that because didn't want to clog up the page. Fail on me.
More votes on BBmolla please.

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Spoiler: quotes

Okay now, lets do serious wagon:
VOTE: BBMolla

Lets kick us out of RVS.

How is random voting kicking us outta rvs?

Do you not know what serious is?

Like do I actually have to vote for who I think is scum now cuz I still don't know and I dont wanna be pressured

hmmmm....
I think Vifam is town here.

He's town cause you think he's honest?

I'll answer them in order:
1) It gets a reaction so that we can proceed. You gave me nothing I could concrete read and I didn't think you would. So I thought it was time to switch gears.
2) it was specifically second part about not being pressured. I am not going into it anymore than that.

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So what's your thoughts?

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Your concern looks really fake.

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Spoiler: quotes

Okay now, lets do serious wagon:
VOTE: BBMolla

Lets kick us out of RVS.

How is random voting kicking us outta rvs?

Do you not know what serious is?

Like do I actually have to vote for who I think is scum now cuz I still don't know and I dont wanna be pressured

hmmmm....
I think Vifam is town here.

He's town cause you think he's honest?

1) It gets a reaction so that we can proceed. You gave me nothing I could concrete read and I didn't think you would. So I thought it was time to switch gears.

So what did BB's reaction tell you?

Nothing so far.

[Fire Assassin]

@flub: because fire is playing the good townie who will help us out of RVS and he wants everyone to know he is doing so.

Me wanted us to get out of RVS is a non tell.
It's not a secret I hate RVS.

Better question here is, do you actually believe what your saying or you trying to look busy?

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Logic doesn't belong in a Mafia game.

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No, I don't.

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@flub: because fire is playing the good townie who will help us out of RVS and he wants everyone to know he is doing so.

Me wanted us to get out of RVS is a non tell.
It's not a secret I hate RVS.

Better question here is, do you actually believe what your saying or you trying to look busy?

Tier's read looks a lot better than the one you loaded in your question

Is that a genuine read?

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BBMolla might actually be scum here too

So you think I am bussing?

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So if I said I'm pretty sure you softed fire fighter, what would you say that's possible?

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You have any townreads to talk about?

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Well I disagree with you on Tier and currently have no read on Jester.
What's your thoughts on Maria?

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Site wide V/LA till Sunday.

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I am back. So far biggest scum read right now is Maria for a few posts but I am hesitant to say that is strong due to my concerns over her style being very situational as I have seen from here.

Tier pointing at trying to move things out of RVS and call it scummy is straight lie. It has however moved us out of RVS.
That being said my vote on BBMolla is wasted:

VOTE: Tiershift

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Why do you sr me fire
I could get you lynched if I wanted ^_^

Because your worrying earlier looked fake.
And I don't care if I get lynched, your still scummy.

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Firebringer says hi btw.

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I am leaning town on Jester over these last two pages.
Vifam and Jester strong tr

Tier and possibly Maria for scum?

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vifam's fire vote was the worst but it's not really telling

How was my vote bad?

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Fire isn't playing with a gimmick I don't see how being an alt changes anything


Reuben's earlier stuff about me is shitty he's also scum and a good lynch

I don't play gimmicks, it's a very different play style.
I don't agree with people using my other account as basis to read me.

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Fire if I was scum I'd be running circles around you and you know it.

Okay this is what I was looking for.
Maria is town. The level of ego is a town tell.

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The ego trap is impossible to escape.

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Im still not fond of FA's play and I dont know why the wagon on him is slowing down, he hasn't really been town and his vote on Tier was pretty bad. Plus he went from Maria being his topscumread like a page ago and now all of a sudden he's townreading her on this page. Because of ego or something

Reuben's post about me cockblocking doesn't make sense cuz I never stopped BB from doing anything, I just asked a question. Then he goes on to say that a joke post I made was out of self-consciousness or something, he's completely over exaggerated those posts and it's scummy.



The best lynches at the moment imo are Fire, Reuben, and BB

So your not fond of a playstyle?
My reads are very versatile right now because this is still sub 10 pages and day 1. So I am wondering why you think its bad for my reads to suddenly change. And my reasoning with Maria was to wait for something that is an actual tell from her before I pushed it more.

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like if im scum and im pushing on the most active town thats asking to get lynched

im only on you cause i genuinely think you're scum m8

And your reasoning that I am town is because few scum are the first wagon?
This is your reasoning? Its sounds like bullocks.

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Also haven't seen Jester troll since about page 2. The trolling phase dropped pretty fast. Which is a good thing.

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lack of counterwagon here makes me think if fire is town, scum are on his wagon, and if fire is scum, his partner is still on his wagon by virtue of being unable to hop off.

his partner is probably tiershift or vifam. my reasoning for tiershift is fire going out of his way to interact with tier (#61). seemed like it could have been an SvS interaction to get him to back off. fire's next post is in-line with what he should be doing. if you were to merge posts 61 and 62, it looks like a pretty clear suggestion to put attention on someone that isn't him. separate they appear like fire snapped at tier.

as for vifam, having your partner 'expose' you as PR can't really hurt. if fire flips scum, we may have simply went along with "wow i guess vifam is a PR'. due to the nature of the set up our PRs won't immediately die if at all (because we have two). no loss here, only gain. #101 he deflects away from maria and puts focus onto fire assassin. that's not very shitty... but going for maria is pretty problematic. seemed like a very smart post as town or scum here. #102 floats the idea of BB being scum "too" (implying a bus). seemed random/late. fire was not pressuring BBmolla enough at this point beyond saying bbmolla hasn't done anything "so far". #105 fire asks vifam if he thinks he's bussing BB (obvious answer, seemed like a setup interaction to make it more clear to everyone else how vifam felt about fire's flip). the shitty interactions withstanding, vifam really hates my point about him interfering with BB (#84-87). if you can't comprehend why i thought it was scummy after i've sounded it out (#156) then there's a disconnect with reality in that post (#177/#189).

outlier team: flubber and tiershift. case for flubber: strange posting. his fourth post, first of note he's asking tiershift about his read on fire. #100 asks tiershift if he's being genuine. around this time, people were asking maria and fire similar questions. maybe it was a free pass to prod at his partner. 97, 122, 139, 220 seemed kind of lazy. meanwhile #197 would be a bus post if he were partners with fire: it was something obvious to say, but a pretty killer point of you really wanted fire lynched. that's why i'm placing flubber as outside a fire team. next bit of criteria, they are both on the fire wagon.

my only problem with this theory is that the interactions were not mutual as tiershift stopped posting. typically asymmetric interactions are TvS in the sense that they're parasitical (if that makes sense). the scum try to cling onto a townie and appear town to that one person, opposed to doing town things. even if they're called on it, their target will consider the scenario where they're town and how the behavior makes sense. after preparing pre-flip interactions, it's an easy way to drag them down with you, as they aren't needed any more. for this reason i think fire as scum is the most likely scenario, as tier could have posted "yeah he's super scummy dude".

if we were going to see a counterwagon here you'd think fire would press maria or really anyone would.

thoughts?

Interesting post.

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Didn't quit get much out of that. It was an interesting analysis, though since alot of is predicated on my flip it wasn't very useful for my own views. I don't see a team of Flubber and Tiershift to be likely due to the two interaction so far in this day. It was too buddy buddy.

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I want to hear more from not voters right now.
Excluding Maria since she is going to do what she does.

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Bbmolla, your vote is wasted on jester.

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i defend my townreads, get used to it.

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I don't think fire assassin is scum here at all. Yet there are two people staying on the wagon no matter what without evolving reads, namely vifam and flub.

I think I want to lynch flub. He doesn't even talk about FA in his latter posts anymore, just letting his vote stay where there is the biggest chance of a lynch. He doesn't really seem to feel FA is scum.
VOTE: flub

Join this wagon, for glory!

So why do you townread me now?

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Vitam I still don't get your read on me. So your big problem was my read change on Maria?

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I waited for that?

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Who said the vote on Jester was because I scumread him?

......anyone but you I would say this was scummy

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Mi don't support this wagon at all.

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And yes fire is still scum

If I was scum, I would have hammered you.

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Maria >.>

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This game is a clusterfuck.

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Last minute push counter push on me huh.

I am the fire fighter.
I claimed someone else was fire fighter so scum wouldn't think it was me.

Also to protect vifam because I bought he was town, but given his reasoning all day on me being scum, not sure on that.

Tier is 100% scum. Read last page and then this page.

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Town:
Maria
Jester

Town lean:
Flubber

Null:
Vifam
Smooth

Scum:
Tier
Bbmolla?

[Fire Assassin]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Move your vote.

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You forgot a person in your list

Reuben leans town for me.

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something i noticed is that fire poked at maria and then townread her because ego or whatever but never tried the same with tiershift despite voting them in #167 and calling a tiershift/maria scumteam in #182

Why would I do this with tier shift?

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Fire can you go into detail with your reads I need to sheep :3

Vote tier, dumb dumb.

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VOTE: Fire
He gave a reads list good enough I cc fire fighter lets lynch him

VOTE: Maria

Don't even care if you are scum.

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I really want to question you on the why. But again, don't care what your alignment is this point.

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It actually doesn't say how many firefighters are in the setup, but it heavily implies one.
I can't see how this would be balanced around 2.

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I did it for you Fire :')

Best teammate ever, I had real doubts about it for awhile, but you managed to pull it off.
Well played friend.

I knew buddying you hard day 1 would make people skeptical of us being a team