Micro 655: Forest Fire - Endgame

[BBmolla]

VOTE: JESTER

I HAVE A GUILTY

[BBmolla]

Honestly I'm pretty terrible. Going through love/emotional withdrawals due to breakup. Basically told her to break up with me as a friend to friend because I was neglecting her. I have a crippling video game addiction that I keep saying I'll quit every day and never do, instead wasting all my time playing games instead of creating work. I'm wholly unfulfilled with my life at the moment, but realistically I have a home and support so it could be a lot worse.

jester is a legit good vote btw

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Computer games sadly. I'll fix my life in another thread though.

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Okay now, lets do serious wagon:
VOTE: BBMolla

Lets kick us out of RVS.

I was already out of RVS

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So what's your thoughts?

I'm still good with a jester lynch

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Fires vote seemed forced but that might be because the goal was to get out of RVS

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maria is probably town

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still don't like jester. his play is super inconsistent.

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We're not lynching fire

I'll answer your question tomorrow jester

Reuben's read post seems fishy

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vifam's fire vote was the worst but it's not really telling

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Vifam I'm literally fighting the fire lynch what game are you reading

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Can you all please notice that jester doesn't mean a damn thing they're saying

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I've never played with jester so it's possible play style but he seems way too calculated especially after the early "I'm gonna troll. Oh I'm getting voted better seem serious now."

It just seems a bit like a show.

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fire was on you too bromigo

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Arguing "I wouldn't be scared of you" isn't a great argument for you being town

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Gut town on vifam btw

Me, Vifam, Maria now just lynch everyone else and we win gg

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Gut town on vifam btw

Me, Vifam, Maria now just lynch everyone else and we win gg

Why not fire then

first wagon is scum maybe 10% of the time.

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source: wikipedia

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Since you haven't responded yet, how is this not contradictory?

still don't like jester. his play is super inconsistent.

he seems way too calculated

Cause to me it seems like the only calculated person here is you, choosing a person to tunnel from the very beginning to have an excuse after an eventual mislynch somewhere later into the game

thats boring though

also it'd be so easy to hop on the fire wagon without anyone giving a second thought why would I not do that as scum, it'd seem more townie

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like if im scum and im pushing on the most active town thats asking to get lynched

im only on you cause i genuinely think you're scum m8

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like if im scum and im pushing on the most active town thats asking to get lynched

im only on you cause i genuinely think you're scum m8

And your reasoning that I am town is because few scum are the first wagon?
This is your reasoning? Its sounds like bullocks.

Yep that's my reasoning

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lack of counterwagon here makes me think if fire is town, scum are on his wagon, and if fire is scum, his partner is still on his wagon by virtue of being unable to hop off.

his partner is probably tiershift or vifam. my reasoning for tiershift is fire going out of his way to interact with tier (#61). seemed like it could have been an SvS interaction to get him to back off. fire's next post is in-line with what he should be doing. if you were to merge posts 61 and 62, it looks like a pretty clear suggestion to put attention on someone that isn't him. separate they appear like fire snapped at tier.

as for vifam, having your partner 'expose' you as PR can't really hurt. if fire flips scum, we may have simply went along with "wow i guess vifam is a PR'. due to the nature of the set up our PRs won't immediately die if at all (because we have two). no loss here, only gain. #101 he deflects away from maria and puts focus onto fire assassin. that's not very shitty... but going for maria is pretty problematic. seemed like a very smart post as town or scum here. #102 floats the idea of BB being scum "too" (implying a bus). seemed random/late. fire was not pressuring BBmolla enough at this point beyond saying bbmolla hasn't done anything "so far". #105 fire asks vifam if he thinks he's bussing BB (obvious answer, seemed like a setup interaction to make it more clear to everyone else how vifam felt about fire's flip). the shitty interactions withstanding, vifam really hates my point about him interfering with BB (#84-87). if you can't comprehend why i thought it was scummy after i've sounded it out (#156) then there's a disconnect with reality in that post (#177/#189).

outlier team: flubber and tiershift. case for flubber: strange posting. his fourth post, first of note he's asking tiershift about his read on fire. #100 asks tiershift if he's being genuine. around this time, people were asking maria and fire similar questions. maybe it was a free pass to prod at his partner. 97, 122, 139, 220 seemed kind of lazy. meanwhile #197 would be a bus post if he were partners with fire: it was something obvious to say, but a pretty killer point of you really wanted fire lynched. that's why i'm placing flubber as outside a fire team. next bit of criteria, they are both on the fire wagon.

my only problem with this theory is that the interactions were not mutual as tiershift stopped posting. typically asymmetric interactions are TvS in the sense that they're parasitical (if that makes sense). the scum try to cling onto a townie and appear town to that one person, opposed to doing town things. even if they're called on it, their target will consider the scenario where they're town and how the behavior makes sense. after preparing pre-flip interactions, it's an easy way to drag them down with you, as they aren't needed any more. for this reason i think fire as scum is the most likely scenario, as tier could have posted "yeah he's super scummy dude".

if we were going to see a counterwagon here you'd think fire would press maria or really anyone would.

thoughts?

Interesting post.

fucking ew

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Molla you alive?

no

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VOTE: tier

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flubber is probs town

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id lynch me too tbqh

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VOTE: Roark

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he's my other option

but I want to hear from roark

and I didn't like how smooth made specific mention of mafia being arsonists and town being trees

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Is there a problem being concerned?

Yes, why would town ever be concerned? Only scum would right.

PS, town will be trees, scum will be arsesholes (arsonists) within my posts. Deals on deals.

such a weird thing to say

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can we call that the good morning tell?

I'm still good lynching roark.

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telling a player their opinion is invalid without a case is so dumb why do people say this

like you can say "explain why in a sentence" but you don't need a whole case to think someone is scum

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I don't think Jester is scum here Im really feeling it's BB

it's not me

if it's from my apathy I can give some meta examples.

I think it's roark but it's one of those games hwere I'm not getting strong impressions sadly.

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Post

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Reuben seems a bit deluded but it might be genuione

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I don't think forgetting about being stumped is a slip

^Yeah this

people forget shit sometimes it happens

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no.

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BB. You said you were happy lynching Howard and then later said you weren't as comfortable in it. Howard has joined the largest wagon. How are you feeling about your vote now?

where did I say I wasn't comfortable in it

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Jester lynch sucks we should lynch roark

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@ReubenWasFine: I thought my 524 was clear.

I feel strongly enough to make it L-1.
VOTE: The_Jester

like for real?

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His hop on was bad

It's not rocket science

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He is scum hopping on a mislynch

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It seemed exceedingly opportunistic and ungenuine

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I really think the jester lynch is shit just by his reaction to it

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eh

I mean I guess it could be "this is a lost cause anyway" scum mindset

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read evolved as I got used to his playstyle

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WHY DID YOU HAMMER?

I didn't sr jester can we vote this now ffs
VOTE: BB

your vote is bad and you should feel bad

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VOTE: Roark

can we do this now please

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:/

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Like Roark is literally a robot and is voting me while he clearly doesn't think I'm scum

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VOTE: BBmolla
There's nothing worthwhile. He was on-off on The_Jester both days voting only D1. He pushed FireAssassin without a vote then backed off and sat on TierShift for the rest of D1. He sat on a vote for me all D2 and looks to do the same today. At best he's unproductive town.

"How do I frame molla as scum and cover my ass when he flips town?"

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what you thinking jester

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guys can you please get your asses in here? Apathy loses us the game.

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I think it's Roark if you're going to sit there and be useless and not vote then join me.

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we should lynch in howard

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why is reuben talking in past tense, it's very strange

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I'm town

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Something fucky is up.

We seem to be pretty unanimously lost and that in itself should be a bit telling on who is scum.

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That said I have no fucking idea.

I do recall getting a shit ton of town Cobes from vifams post despite his tirade against me

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BB: howard's town. who is scum?

probably flubb

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I'm still not convinced bb is town

Are we at the point of risking quick hammers yet?

:/

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VOTE: Flubb

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interactions with fire can be explained that scum dont have daytalk (see role pms)

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reads a lot like in thread coaching

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hey guys

you could interact with me if you want

I'm not a stripper, you can interact with me if you want

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like you don't have to mindlessly sheep me, but I'm not scum and I'd like it if ya'll would interact with me more

just feeling a bit objectified

im more than just a mislynch

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Yeah I've been doing a reread as well because my notes can't give me any more.

Bb: towniest thing vifam has done. What is the scummiest?

scummiest thing doesn't matter, his play is pretty messy and only really makes sense from town imo

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@Flubbernugget: Why no vote yesterday?

@CloudKicker: Summary of your reads please.

@BBmolla: During normal game play, what is your voting philosophy? (Always have a vote, only when you think someone is scummy, pressure, intent only, ...)

@ReubenWasFine: Explain your vote on me yesterday.

Vote the scummiest person or if there is no one vote for someone lurky

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I'm not scum. We're gonna lose.

bout all I can say.

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I'm pretty confident it's lylo

My vote can be wrong but I'm still not scum. I don't see all the super town things everyone else sees about flubber.

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ez game

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dude, bb threw the game by being afk

nah fuck you bro. You misread me. Don't pin that on me.

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If anything I threw the game by having shitty reads not by being afk

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I think I said pregame that I was pretty sure you would be the one to catch me Bb, I was kind surprised you townread me, though you kind of townread me on bad reasoning so theres that.

im townread both scum it's pretty safe to say I just suck