Mini Normal 1843 - Endgame

[GreyICE]

Don't know black void. Don't care. Pleasure reading his posts. The man is town.

ClownCracker's first post was bollocks. Lie in a game with me and I'll gut you. Whine to me about it in the post game. I'll do it again the next one. The second post where he whined no one was paying attention to him was pretty town. If he gets bigger no one will cry, but not much desire to lynch today.

Goodmorning can be town for her reaction to lynchbait McGee. I dunno. I could say something is off. Could say town... town!

Hoops is town. Can one of you be obvscum and make my job easy?

[GreyICE]

Hi friends. How goes? I saw the player list and replaced in without reading anything else.

Welcome old friend, but your slot is on the ropes. There's no shame in phoning it in if you're scum and hanging out in the dead thread. I'll be there after N1 to come and reminisce about days gone by.

Mislynch me day 1? Hoopla, there ain't a scum on site who could do that. They have to shoot me in the head night 1, thems the rules.

[GreyICE]

IAIs ISO is a teenage wasteland. I'll be caught up soon! Uh huh. Obviously it's bad. Not enough to motivate me to lynch day 1, but an acceptable vig target.

Jack is... a good vote. A really good vote. His posts are just fake feeling and shallow. Like reading from a script.

Maria is town.

I've never played with MichaelSableheart before. We're going to press all each other's buttons. I think he's town though.

Rask is town. Sotty town. Two face town. Victor scum.

Huh I have too many town reads. Unless it is Victor/Jack/IAI. Feels wrong.

[Hoopla]

How are you at the point of calling out specific teams 90 minutes after replacing in?

[GreyICE]

Hey Jack! Remember Sotty, your top scum read? Have anything to say about anything she's done in... ever? The vote has calcified. It's fucking fossilized. You made the vote top of page 5, and have said shit about it for 20 pages. So if you're that hard tunneled, have you done a damn thing to make us listen to you? I mean besides occasional commentary. She remains bottom of your list, so we know this is intentional.

[GreyICE]

How are you at the point of calling out specific teams 90 minutes after replacing in?

I'm not. Told you it feels like something is off.

How are your reads so bad? Your entire list made me cry.

[GreyICE]

Well I mean besides day 1 Hoopla yadda yadda. But like... sotty scum? Jack null? Why?

[GreyICE]

If I'm wrong about a strong player (and I am) it's probably MichaelSableheart. He says Hokies to explain what he's thinking, and he does. And it's shallow observation. Hmmmmmm... need to think more. Some time tomorrow.

[GreyICE]

Hokies? Autocorrect wtf? Whatever. Sleep time.

[Hoopla]

How are your reads so bad? Your entire list made me cry.

Actually, I feel a bit better about Sotty after rereading the game recently - she doesn't seem like the type to use wifomy self-meta about her activity as scum like this:

Okay, now I am embarrassed.

Take this with a pitch of salt, this is my first full game back in a long time. I replaced into a game last month towards end game and before that my last full game was team mafia last year were I played terribly as scum in a nightless game. My biggest strength was knowing when to bus and making it look rational and even realistic. I'm not sure how site meta is now but I would bus a lot. I started to get try and get away from that after I became known for it. Biggest weakness I would say forcing myself to post. As town I feel much more relaxed, scum became a pressure for me and I would over think everything and it would stress me out so my posting would reduce as a result.

BlackVoid noticed that Sotty's activity was way higher in this game than her scum game, so it seems like it checks out, and it seems a little too on-the-nose in terms of deception for Sotty to just say her scum game X while blatantly doing Y. I expect more subtlety from her and I now view that as a townish appeal to meta.

Jack has probably graduated to my scumpool mostly from PoE and his surface-level posting. Like I said earlier, his posting is the picture of flying under the radar and there seems to be noticable groundswell circling him now, so I wouldn't be mad if a Jack flashwagon happens.

As for the rest of my reads... how dare you bad mouth them! I'm mostly curious about your Victor scumread. Can you explain that one?

[Sotty7]

Welcome grey. I'll second hoopla's request for a more detailed victor reasoning. I have him as strong town right now.

[Jaack]

I am here... and suddenly quite popular it seems.

Regarding Jaack, yeah I felt he was a bit too comfortable with voteparking your wagon based off of the "IF there's one scum on the Rask wagon, it's Sotty7" theory which isn't even necessarily true and he hasn't re-assessed or commented on your posts since then.

I've said this already, but my vote on sotty is not based on the rask wagon thing. It's based off of sotty's actions in the early game. As I explained already. I haven't commented on sotty since because nothing has really popped out at me from her posts. I mean I didn't really like her first vote on BBT all that much (119} but I haven't felt to strongly about the vast majority of her posts since the early game.

The only other players I have reasonable scum-inklings about are twoface and cloudkicker, and neither of those two players have much momentum towards a wagon, so I don't know why I would move my vote to a less useful place.

Now regarding myself, I think it's notable that there has been a lot of interest in me as a scum candidate in the past couple of pages, but no one is willing to cast the first vote. Of course now that I say that someone will probably cheekily quote this section and vote me.

[Sotty7]

So you have nothing at all to ask me about anything in the game?

[GreyICE]

Well let me get home and off this phone to lay it out further, but for now a simple question: assuming you're aggressive, prickly, and have strong feelings, what do you do when you get widely town read?

[I Am Innocent]

hoping to finish my catchup now

[GreyICE]

[TwoFace]

hoping to finish my catchup now

Cool

On that note I didn't feel like catching up today

[I Am Innocent]

Greatest Player of all time thread. Yeah, I saw that too. I almost think if Sotty7 were goat-level scum, I'd be reading her as town.

@Sotty7, what would you say is your biggest strength and weakness as scum?

Way to stick that link in there and cost me 15 minutes of my catchup time reading that thread!

Oh wait, look.....SQUIRREL!!!!

[MariaR]

Can you guys unvote and let the guy re read without the pressure of votes thank you.

[TwoFace]

Can you guys unvote and let the guy re read without the pressure of votes thank you.

[GreyICE]

What pressure? I'm not getting lynched today, there's no pressure ^_^

Check out my usual position on the night kill train in previous games, you'd be nuts to do the scum's job for them.

[MariaR]

Wtf is it with the strong victor townreads o-o

pedit: IT'S RUDE YRSYRS5Y5ESY5

[MariaR]

Now regarding myself, I think it's notable that there has been a lot of interest in me as a scum candidate in the past couple of pages, but no one is willing to cast the first vote. Of course now that I say that someone will probably cheekily quote this section and vote me.

I can do that

VOTE: Jaack

[VictorDeAngelo]

IAIs ISO is a teenage wasteland. I'll be caught up soon! Uh huh. Obviously it's bad. Not enough to motivate me to lynch day 1, but an acceptable vig target.

What use is there in vigging a guy with virtually zero content/interactions?

The only other players I have reasonable scum-inklings about are twoface and cloudkicker, and neither of those two players have much momentum towards a wagon, so I don't know why I would move my vote to a less useful place.

Now regarding myself, I think it's notable that there has been a lot of interest in me as a scum candidate in the past couple of pages, but no one is willing to cast the first vote. Of course now that I say that someone will probably cheekily quote this section and vote me.

So you don't want to move your own vote because you don't think it would be useful off of either of the major wagons.
But you also question people won't move their votes off of a major wagon onto you.
Somewhat contradictory isn't it?

Can you guys unvote and let the guy re read without the pressure of votes thank you.

Why?

PEdit:

Wtf is it with the strong victor townreads o-o

Strong Victor townreads are because Victor is town. duh

pedit: IT'S RUDE YRSYRS5Y5ESY5

Not really

[MariaR]

I pref someone take there time to catch up without the pressure of 4-5 votes on them because they can skim and out info in a rushed manner compared to if they take time and out the info in a pace that is good for them